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Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:55 am
by Disney Duster
Flanger-Hanger wrote:Ya, that sounds about right. And Flang-hang just sounds too strange for me (and I don't know exactly why) Dusty, you can just call me F-H in the future if you like.
FINE!

...but do you like...Flang?

Flanger-Hanger wrote:Snow and Cindy's Princes (too feminine looking).
Well if you ask me, Hercules looks on the feminine side, because he's so pretty. So I think these princes could fit, I mean, this guy obviously is skilled at making us look at these men in different ways, maybe he can convince us the softer princes can be sexy manly men? Or maybe he doesn't even have to. These men all have different body types and looks, people think feminine guys are sexy too, or at least beautiful to look at.[/quote]

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:22 pm
by SpringHeelJack
IMO, Hercules is not very attractive in any configuration. In the movie, he's too stylized, and here... as Janet said, "I don't like men with too many muscles."

Still, who else is left to draw? The Cinderella and Snow White princes are kind of bland, so I don't really care when they get made, but I'm kind of hoping for the day when the ideas are running low and we get, like, sexy Bernard, sexy Chicken Little, and sexy Basil.

And then the furry fandom comes in.

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:23 pm
by SpringHeelJack
Disney Duster wrote:
Flanger-Hanger wrote:Ya, that sounds about right. And Flang-hang just sounds too strange for me (and I don't know exactly why) Dusty, you can just call me F-H in the future if you like.
FINE!

...but do you like...Flang?
I just realized also, maybe Flang-hang sounds vaguely phallic. At least to me.

I'm sorry. It's been a long week. I'm not all here.

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:13 pm
by Flanger-Hanger
SpringHeelJack wrote:
Disney Duster wrote: FINE!

...but do you like...Flang?
I just realized also, maybe Flang-hang sounds vaguely phallic. At least to me.

I'm sorry. It's been a long week. I'm not all here.
Wow, so much trouble caused by a word stated at the end of The Great Mouse Detective. Technically I should ask everyone here to call me Flaversham (continuing the running gag from the film). Ya that's kind of the reason Brendan, it just sounds weird. If everyone wants to call me something else here are some other choices:

Flanchester
Flam-Hammer

or just plain Basil will do, really. It's not my real name but at least it's GMD related.

Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:51 pm
by Disney Duster
SpringHeelJack wrote:IMO, Hercules is not very attractive in any configuration. In the movie, he's too stylized, and here... as Janet said, "I don't like men with too many muscles."

Still, who else is left to draw? The Cinderella and Snow White princes are kind of bland, so I don't really care when they get made
I was talking about Hercules' face. I wouldn't call muscles pretty. Maybe tone is. But stylized or not, I've seen a boy with a face that looks enough like Hercules' to think his face could exist in real life.

The princes are exactly what I want to see. Not muscley, not scrawny, and very gay. I guess Phillip's my favorite so far, but it's hard to decide between him and Herc.

Flam-Ham, I'd rather call you by something neither you nor anyone else thought of, but I suppose Flam-Ham is unique enough without the "er".

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:04 pm
by Disney's Divinity
I was talking about Hercules' face. I wouldn't call muscles pretty. Maybe tone is. But stylized or not, I've seen a boy with a face that looks enough like Hercules' to think his face could exist in real life.
Well, to be fair, nearly every hero in Disney movies could be called "pretty." Apparently, they have to have that clean-shaven, American look to be heroic. And I'm surprised so many people don't like his portrait. He's easily the most gorgeous one the guy's done (IMO; I find I need to say that after every statement).

I'm actually surprised noone's done this kind of thing for the female side of the spectrum. It's strange how females tend to dominate the human animated films. I guess it's because they're easiest to draw (I find it that way, personally).
Apparently the ultimate Disney hero is Aladdin. :wink:
Well, based on his picture, I guess there's not much argument, is there? :lol:

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:47 pm
by Flanger-Hanger
Disney Duster wrote:
Flam-Ham, I'd rather call you by something neither you nor anyone else thought of, but I suppose Flam-Ham is unique enough without the "er".
Just call me whatever at this point, I'm sorry I've been so picky Dusty. (and that's NOT sarcastic)

Back on Topic: As for the drawings themselves, I like Hercules the best. I'm in the minority I guess when it comes to finding him attractive. Al is next followed by Jim and Phillip.

I find the picture of Jim to be the most interesting. his face has such an amazing expression that really shows that the character is thinking. Animators (and this guy is one in training) love scenes when there is no dialog because then they can truly show there skill at putting personality into a drawing. The one of Jim to me makes me think that Jim himself is in deep thought, I don't know exactly what about, but to me he feels the most "real", Instead of just being another static figure.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:13 pm
by SpringHeelJack
The fact that Jim is voiced by Joseph Gordon Levitt is what does it for me. Mmm, JGL. Cut me off a piece of that.

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:26 pm
by Escapay
This is such an interesting conversation! It drove a longtime member away apparently, but I guess you win some and you lose some.
No Wire Flangers Ever!!! wrote:Just call me whatever at this point
I don't know about Mike, but I'm calling you Wire Flanger from now on!
The Divinity that is Disney wrote:Well, based on his picture, I guess there's not much argument, is there? :lol:
:lol: back

Albert

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:57 pm
by Vermin Friends
I love "DavidKawena"'s art, it's so creative. I came across it a few months ago, and I was so happy that he's so dedicated to his fans, and was still continuing the "Disney Heroes" project. He's a really nice guy, and although some of his work isn't completely appropriate considering it's Disney, it's still brilliant in almost every way possible.

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:02 pm
by Disney Duster
Disney's Divinity wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's done this kind of thing for the female side of the spectrum. It's strange how females tend to dominate the human animated films. I guess it's because they're easiest to draw (I find it that way, personally).
Yes all the male leads are supposed to be good-looking, 'cept Milo. But did you know, the Disney animators found it harder to draw and animate men than women, just like you? So it must be true. Apparently women can bend more and be more...flowy? And men have to be stiff and boxy. I'm not sure the exact words, something like that. But that's why in the human films, the princes are seen so little of. Only the cartoony dwarfs or Duke or King are seen a lot. Even Phillip wasn't seen all that much.

Flam-Ham...really, tell me if this one's okay. Yes, I was annoyed at the pickiness, so I'm sorry too, it is all about you and your name.

I think you and I agree on our favorites, I like Herc an Jim and Phillip. Picture and pose wise, I like Kokoum the best, because it really, really accentuates...the best parts. But all together, I think Phillip's my real favorite. He's a gay prince (he even seems to have lip gloss) and maybe he reminds me of me because he's awkward and gay but trying to look sexy...I do not know. If you really look at his picture, it doesn't look like he would be fitting for Aurora at all...she wouldn't want him, he wouldn't want her.

I haven't seen Treasure Planet so I cannot comment on if Jim's like a more thinking character than others but in his picture he does look to be thinking. Yet like I said there's a realness in Phillip. As real as us surface-loving gays are. Or at least I am.

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:14 pm
by Flanger-Hanger
Disney Duster wrote:
Flam-Ham...really, tell me if this one's okay. Yes, I was annoyed at the pickiness, so I'm sorry too, it is all about you and your name.

I think you and I agree on our favorites, I like Herc an Jim and Phillip. Picture and pose wise, I like Kokoum the best, because it really, really accentuates...the best parts. But all together, I think Phillip's my real favorite. He's a gay prince (he even seems to have lip gloss) and maybe he reminds me of me because he's awkward and gay but trying to look sexy...I do not know. If you really look at his picture, it doesn't look like he would be fitting for Aurora at all...she wouldn't want him, he wouldn't want her.

I haven't seen Treasure Planet so I cannot comment on if Jim's like a more thinking character than others but in his picture he does look to be thinking. Yet like I said there's a realness in Phillip. As real as us surface-loving gays are. Or at least I am.
That name's fine.

As for Jim, I was referring to the drawing, not the film. Although I think he does have a more realistic personality than other Disney heroes.

I think in the Phillip drawing he's also blushing, which reinforces your concept of him trying to look sexy, even if he's not. The belt around the arm helps to make him look kinky I think.

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:33 pm
by 2099net
Disney Duster wrote:But did you know, the Disney animators found it harder to draw and animate men than women, just like you? So it must be true. Apparently women can bend more and be more...flowy? And men have to be stiff and boxy.
Or in my case, fat and blubberly. :)

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:50 pm
by Disney Duster
Flanger-Hanger wrote:I think in the Phillip drawing he's also blushing, which reinforces your concept of him trying to look sexy, even if he's not. The belt around the arm helps to make him look kinky I think.
Nevernoticed, he does look like he's blushing! Aw, the lil' prince is all embarassed at showing off his...self. The belt doesn't make me think kink, just gothic and medieval like his world. But then again it does suggest he may like being bound like Maleficent had him.
2099net wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:But did you know, the Disney animators found it harder to draw and animate men than women, just like you? So it must be true. Apparently women can bend more and be more...flowy? And men have to be stiff and boxy.
Or in my case, fat and blubberly. :)
Aw, I like the chubbier guys. But actually that would help the animators. King Hubert and...the King were fine, and the King was seen more than Charming. It may have to do with softness. Women are expected to be softer than men, and fatter people are called softer people, because it's not hard muscle. I like softer men, it's cuter.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:56 pm
by Siren
I like chubby guys more too. I call them "teddy bears". I rather have a teddy bear than a man with a chiseled body and a chiseled bonehead to go with it.

Like this guy...CAUTION...Pic is by different artist, but similar to other Hero ones. This guy is doing villains!
http://lcslayer.deviantart.com/art/Disn ... n-77640179

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:02 am
by 2099net
Are Duster and Siren coming on to me? :lol:

There is a difference between chubby and fat you know!

My pictures on the site somewhere in one of the post a picture threads. Me and my Snickers. It may make an apperance again soon, crying golden tears of retro joy.

Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:59 pm
by Disney Duster
Siren wrote:I like chubby guys more too. I call them "teddy bears". I rather have a teddy bear than a man with a chiseled body and a chiseled bonehead to go with it.

Like this guy...CAUTION...Pic is by different artist, but similar to other Hero ones. This guy is doing villains!
http://lcslayer.deviantart.com/art/Disn ... n-77640179
UM...He's chiseled, Siren. He's not soft or what would constitue as chubby. He's muscly, like Hercules. And I'm sorry but that picture's gross, and I don't think it's what Gaston would really look like. That artist is not good enough. He pales sickly in comparison to the guy doing the Disney Heroes. Yes, the reason the picture looks gross is because it's not done well.

But look at his poster art for The Hunchback of Notre Dame! That should've been a poster or coverart!

Anyway, Netty, I'm not coming on to you, don't worry. I found your pictures, and well, you're not my age. It doesn't look like you're really fat.

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:02 pm
by 2099net
I was only joshing Dusty!

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:08 pm
by UmbrellaFish
Disney Duster wrote:UM, Siren. He's not soft or what would constitue as chubby. He's muscly, like Hercules. And I'm sorry but that picture's gross, and I don't think it's what Gaston would really look like. That artist is not good enough. He pales sickly in comparison to the guy doing the Disney Heroes. Yes, the reason the picture looks gross is because it's not done well.
I don't think Siren ever said he was chubby. Just mentioning that somebody was doing villians instead of heroes.
I agree with you though, I don't think the picture was done very well myself.

Re: Deviant Disney Heroes Series

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:18 pm
by Disney Duster
Well Netty, since Siren is an adult and I was grouped with her I just wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't trying anything.
UmbrellaFish wrote:I don't think Siren ever said he was chubby. Just mentioning that somebody was doing villians instead of heroes.
I agree with you though, I don't think the picture was done very well myself.
UmbrellaFish wrote:I like chubby guys more too. I call them "teddy bears". I rather have a teddy bear than a man with a chiseled body and a chiseled bonehead to go with it.

Like this guy...CAUTION...Pic is by different artist, but similar to other Hero ones. This guy is doing villains!
Yes, that's what she meant. But I'm glad you agree with me about the picture. It almost insults David Kawena's work.