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Ariel'sprince wrote:The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Chicken Little,i guess.
Siren-Why do you call her Ariel? in the original story her name wasn't Ariel,Ariel is just Disney's version.
I just dosn't understand can't think about something different then Disney,who said her name was Ariel?.

Because I didn't want to keep typing "the little mermaid" over and over again since she didn't have a name in the original tale.

I guess HOND would be at the top of the list since I think nearly everybody dies at the end of the original .

not a feature film but doing a short on the Little Match Girl AND sticking with original ending I would think be unusual.

It would be interesting to see what would've happened if Disney with the original endings of Fox and the Hound ,The Little Mermaid and Hunchback though *thinks*

I find both Beauty and the Beast and the Little Mermaid to be strange ideas for adaptations. Why? Mainly because they weren't hugely popular fairytales to begin with. They were reasonably well known, but certainly not as well known as ones like Cinderella or Sleeping Beauty. However, by making these films, "Mermaid" and "Beauty" were certainly "put on the map" so to speak, and are only really known in there disney forms, which is why so many people are surprised when they hear the details of the original stories.
I've seen quite a few theatrical productions of Beauty and the Beast written by amateur companies, and all of these versions have heavily borrowed from the Disney movie, including the enchantress' spell, enchanted objects, and an odd but pretty girl who lives with her father. Why did they write it in this way? Simply because this is really the only version of the tale that most people are actually familiar with, and to a certain extent, they actually expect to see it presented in that way.

I think it would be difficult for another studio to make a movie based on one these two that closely followed the story of the original, simply because audiences would be so unfamiliar with the original, it would be hard to accept.

I thought it was interesting about how the original Beauty and the Beast story also dealt with wit as well as beauty. The Beast wasn't allowed to show his intelligence as part of his curse. One of Belle's sisters marries a man with a superior wit, but he uses it to cause everyone pain.

The story also is an unusual choice because it pretty much is two people sitting down for dinner over and over and requires a lot of reworking to make an interesting film version (if you've ever seen the famous 40s film, which is closer to the original, it, too, had to take liberties to make it more interesting as a film: a rival in love, Diana's Pavilion, a plot to kill the Beast etc.). Another interesting element is that, after Belle trades herself for her father, the Beast keeps insisting she's the mistress of the house and of himself. Compared to that, the Disney version's Beast is like an abusive boyfriend.

To bring in something different, I'll bring up Enchanted. It's not an adaptation of a fairy tale, but the "fairy tale/Disney spoof" has been used and overused a LOT lately, enough to make it its own genre almost. I thought it was really weird that Disney would take up such a used idea, and then make fun of itself and what it built its empire on!
Of course, they pulled it off without making it yet another fairy tale parody (Disney does Shrek).

Alice in Wonderland too....so many drug references. Some of them stayed in the movie. Like the caterpillar's hooka.
Robin Hood....everyone was an animal. A fox is related to lions? I guess in marriage perhaps. And Prince John was a lion, yet maneless. Must have been one of those Tsavo lions.
Tarzan...Disney's most naked hero.
Brother Bear....Starting a movie where the HERO kills a baby animal's mother...ballsy.
The Three Lives of Thomasina....Old Yeller and Bambi didn't have enough death, let's kill a cat a few times for the ultimate effect. And we'll call it a family movie! (Actually, I adore this movie!)

Alice In Wonderland only has drug refrences because, people think there drug references in it. Alice only has them if your thinking in those terms.

Tarzan I can agree with kinda.

No, the referances are there because it was what Lewis Carroll wrote. This isn't "Is Puff the Magic Dragon about a dragon or pot?". Lewis Carroll used laudanum, a well known and used legal pain killer at the time that is a tincture of opium. There is no evidence to say he abused it, but it certainly leads one to believe he got some ideas from it. Also explain the hookah then. Illegal or not, the caterpillar was smoking something in it, lol.

starlioness wrote:I guess HOND would be at the top of the list since I think nearly everybody dies at the end of the original .

not a feature film but doing a short on the Little Match Girl AND sticking with original ending I would think be unusual.

It would be interesting to see what would've happened if Disney with the original endings of Fox and the Hound ,The Little Mermaid and Hunchback though *thinks*

I haven't read 'The fox and the Hound", so I like to know what's the original ending of the story. Does Copper die?
The ending in the Disney version is kind of bittersweet.

BelleGirl wrote:

starlioness wrote:I guess HOND would be at the top of the list since I think nearly everybody dies at the end of the original .

not a feature film but doing a short on the Little Match Girl AND sticking with original ending I would think be unusual.

It would be interesting to see what would've happened if Disney with the original endings of Fox and the Hound ,The Little Mermaid and Hunchback though *thinks*

I haven't read 'The fox and the Hound", so I like to know what's the original ending of the story. Does Copper die?
The ending in the Disney version is kind of bittersweet.

According to the Wikipedia article. The original Fox and the Hound novel was set in England and didnt have a whole lot of emphasis on the two being friends. Chief or whoever Chief was supposed to represent in the novel was supposed to be killed. Todd is finally killed and the book shows his pelt being hung and then Copper is shot to death by his owner.

All I can say when I read that summary was...damn! What the heck was I thinking putting "The Sword in the Stone" on my list instead of "The Fox and the Hound"?! Talk about a disturbing ending!

The Rescuers comes to mind for this thread, the book and movie are quite different.

Siren wrote:

Ariel'sprince wrote:The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Chicken Little,i guess.
Siren-Why do you call her Ariel? in the original story her name wasn't Ariel,Ariel is just Disney's version.
I just dosn't understand can't think about something different then Disney,who said her name was Ariel?.

Because I didn't want to keep typing "the little mermaid" over and over again since she didn't have a name in the original tale.

Oh,okay .
You can call her the Mermaid,thought.

Ariel'sprince

Oh,okay .
You can call her the Mermaid,thought.

That would get annoying calling her Mermaid though.

SwordInTheStone777 wrote:Ariel'sprince

Oh,okay .
You can call her the Mermaid,thought.

That would get annoying calling her Mermaid though.

Exactly.

Didn't Robin Hood have a different ending than the Disney Animated Classic had?

I don't think it's really an adaptation but when I first read about the story concept of Lilo and Stitch I thought it was most unusual.

Lilo and Stitch was interesting, the tv series got old really fast.

BelleGirl wrote:I don't think it's really an adaptation but when I first read about the story concept of Lilo and Stitch I thought it was most unusual.

I see what you mean-it's dosn't sounds like Disney (a little girl take an alien who think it's a dog?).

Lilo isn't your average, normal little girl. Lilo is interesting, lets leave it at that.

Lilo and Sitich is something Disney would do, in my opinion. Disney always looks for something new and different for each of there films.

Actually, Lilo is one of the most realistic characters Disney has ever created. She is your average little girl. She comes from a broken home and acts out because of the emotional trauma she has been through. I see Lilo as a metaphor for children who go through their parent's divorce. As well as children who have medical conditions like bipolar, ADHD, AS, and many other mental medical conditions. She shows symptoms of all of those. She is by far, the most realistic character Disney has done so far.

SwordInTheStone777 wrote:Lilo isn't your average, normal little girl. Lilo is interesting, lets leave it at that.

Lilo and Sitich is something Disney would do, in my opinion. Disney always looks for something new and different for each of there films.

I wasn't talking about the character of Lilo altought i like her and agree with Siren and i like what she's saying about family,the movie just sounds like a sience finiction film rather then a Disney film (they idea of an alien escape to earth and disguise himself as a dog so a little girl will take him with her).