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I agree with you disneykid Phillip's hat is just stupid and so is all that purple on his costume (it should be red).

I also wouldn't mind seeing Elliot do meet and greets or King Leonidas (from Bedknobs and Broomsticks) brought back.

Disneykid wrote:I also think some of the face characters (aka humans) need their wigs and costumes redone:

I ddidn't quote you on this but wow I can't believe they have a Mad Hatter but no March Hare. Thye should have one.

Anyway, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks the costumes of the human characters need to be more like the originals. But I want to say that I feel it's okay for the costumes and even the props and castles to not be exactly like the originals. The designers should be able to have some creativity!

Unfortunately, I only went to Walt Disney World once, but I've seen some pictures. From what it appears, Belle's dress desn't have the golden orange on her gloves, top, and the trim on her skirt that it did in the movie. In fact, they give her yellow roses instead of the little round decorations, I'm assuming just because the Beast had the rose. Also, the trim is not how it should be...it's like there's something yellow on top of her skirt and only the bottom of it is scrunched up to look like the trim...yea I'm obseessed. Aurora's outfit is only really wrong in color, and I've actually seen a lot of pictures...almost all pictures, of her just in blue, but they need to make her V-shaped collar a lot lighter than the rest of the dress. And OMG Phillip's hat, yea, that needs the most fixing. Cinderella...well, I don't know about you but those puffy round bustles or peplums or whatever on her skirt shoud not have those ripples. I actually don't mind the bow, because it reminds me of the dress the mice made for her, so it's like a homage. The reason I don't mind the bow homage but I do mind the rose homage on Belle is because the roses change what was there before, but the bow homage just adds. Also, Cinderella's skirt needs to have those three pleats in the front.

I'm sure there's things I'm missing, but I really want to come out and say that most of what gets me is not the costume changes but the prop changes. That's right. I've got big problems with Cindy's coach and castle. I can't find too many pictures of the Disney World coach, and actually I don't mind the glass idea, I think that's genius. But the wheels are not the curly, spiral shapes. There are two many windows and it should have a door with the fancy "C" for Cinderella crest on it. Interestingly, I read a description of the elevator in the Cinderella Bedchamber they built this year for Cinderella's Castle.

Then you enter the elevator, which is very 21st Century! But we looked at Cinderella's carriage from the film, and we thought that this was the carriage for the Guest to enter the suite. We took some of the design themes from the carriage -- the crest from the carriage is on the floor in a mosaic, and some pillowing on the walls.

Yea, so they did the crest and the pink pillowing for an elevator, but not the actual carriage. Also, Cinderellea's castle itself is so wrong! I know I said they can makes things different from the original, but at least make it recognizable! The clock is not even in the tower. I know they based some of it off the conecpt work for the original film's castle, but still...make it look like the finished one, too. Get this, In Cinderella's Bedchamber, they have a mosaic of the way the castle looks in "real life" and then the bathroom has a picture of the way the castle looks in the film, the "correct" way.


Huh?

And Idon't know what to say about the mosaic murals in the castle, down in the walkway. The costumes are really wrong there, they make it look like Cinderella's from a different century than she was in the movie! And the fairy godmother doesn't even look like herself. And why are there gothic elements anyway? I read there's 13 gargoyles on it! But Cinderella wasn't living in Medieval times!

Okay. Rant over.

picky picky....you know you would love to stay in the castle!

You are right, Queen Rahel, I would love to stay there, but I still have problems with it, and I know it doesn't look any of the rooms in the original movie. The King's bedchamber didn't look like that.

Disney Duster wrote:Aurora's outfit is only really wrong in color, and I've actually seen a lot of pictures...almost all pictures, of her just in blue...

And Idon't know what to say about the mosaic murals in the castle, down in the walkway. The costumes are really wrong there, they make it look like Cinderella's from a different century than she was in the movie! And the fairy godmother doesn't even look like herself. And why are there gothic elements anyway? I read there's 13 gargoyles on it! But Cinderella wasn't living in Medieval times!

Aurora used to appear in blue frequently, but from what I've seen/read online, the pink dress is almost always being used, now, with the blue one making ultra-rare appearances. Ugh.

As for the castle murals, I actually love them. The way I see them is this: they treat the Cinderella story as a legend rather than a Disney film. The closest way I can explain it would be to compare it to Biblical paintings. We don't know what Bible figures looked like, so a painting of them would be up the artist's interpretation. I see the Cinderella mosaics like that, like if Cinderella were a true story passed down by generations that the artist interpreted visually himself, with the Disney film sort of being our time-traveling window to what really happened, a window a classic mosaic artist wouldn't have had (wow, talk about a run-on sentence). I don't know if that makes sense or not. Besides, at least the stained glass windows are directly based off of the Disney film (and with accurate colors, too!).

I think that I would love to see the following at Disneyland:

-Roger Rabbit they have the ride so he could be focused in ToonTown
-Huey, Dewey & Louie
-Mr. Toad Again...he could be stationed primarily near the ride
-Ludwig Von Drake I loved him as a kid so it would be cool to take a picture with him

blackcauldron85 wrote:

slave2moonlight wrote: By the way, I have that Gurgi plush too, and I also have the Hen Wen plush!

I actually have them, plus the Fairfolk! I've seen on eBay a bigger, furrier Gurgi, but I have yet to adopt him.

My husband and I just this past weekend met Ariel for the first time...she was so nice, and we had a conversation. Fun!

That Ebay one might be the Gurgi I have. The one I have (and the Hen Wen) I got back when the film came out. They're not beanies or anything, and not from a Disney Store. Got 'em from a regular toy story, and they're a nice size. They also made one of the king of the Fairfolk, but I didn't get that one.

Ha, I think it's the possibility of non-masked Disney characters trying to converse with me that makes me nervous to get near them. I feel like that would be so awkward, since I am so bad at making conversation with strangers (probably the main reason I will likely always be single, ha).

I have a picture from when I was a kid from the parade at Disney World and Dumbo is in the tower that is on fire and clowns are dancing around it, it was 1978 or 1979 I believe

And Dumbo currently appears in the Electrial Parade at Disney's California Adventure.

Oh, well, I think pink's okay. I know blue would be better just because it looks better and it was how it was for most of the movie, but at least it actually happened in the movie, even if it was for only a few seconds. Once, I saw a design for her costume in a book on Imagineering that as pink and blue. I actually thought it was a neat idea, and I could pretend the fairies created it newly for her as a compromise. They've gotta learn sometime, how about centuries later?

Disneykid wrote:As for the castle murals, I actually love them. The way I see them is this:

I never looked at the mosaics that way. That makes me feel a lot better about them, actually! I just would think that the people doing the murals, if it was from long ago, might have done them during the time Cinderella lived, and she would have described everything and they could have gotten it closer. But you're saying they were done a while after the real story happened, like the royal family passed the story along and they finally decided to do it?

Disney Duster wrote:I never looked at the mosaics that way. That makes me feel a lot better about them, actually! I just would think that the people doing the murals, if it was from long ago, might have done them during the time Cinderella lived, and she would have described everything and they could have gotten it closer. But you're saying they were done a while after the real story happened, like the royal family passed the story along and they finally decided to do it?

Exactly. I like to think that the mosaics were made long after the events occurred and had already become legendary. By then, no one knew what the characters looked like (I'll conveniently ignore the cast portraits we see in Cindy I and III for the sake of this theory). It wouldn't surprise me if this is what the Disney imagineers had in mind when they designed the mosaics.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:I agree with you disneykid Phillip's hat is just stupid and so is all that purple on his costume (it should be red).

I also wouldn't mind seeing Elliot do meet and greets or King Leonidas (from Bedknobs and Broomsticks) brought back.

lol for a moment I almost thought you were referrring to 300.