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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:44 am
by AwallaceUNC

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:15 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
Just Myself wrote:OT: Pirates was more than a few minutes over 2 hours, mate. It was 143 minutes long, and unless you count 23 as a 'few' minutes, then you're wrong.
Actually, it's 2 hours and 13 minutes. Those credits are actually 10 mintues long(unless you want to include that "surprise" after the credits as part of the movie. :P) Still, Roeper gave "Thumbs Up" to longer movies before, so it makes no sense for him to give "Thumbs Down" to Pirates.

[quote="Just Myself a.k.a "Secret Disney Man"]BiT: Ebert and Roeper can actually be pretty harsh, especially family films. For them to give Cars a big thumbs up and call it Pixar's best is pretty big.[/quote]

Did they give it "Two Big Thumbs Up"? Listen to their review on line, and it doesn't sound like they loved it as say Finding Nemo.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:59 pm
by Just Myself
Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:
Just Myself wrote:OT: Pirates was more than a few minutes over 2 hours, mate. It was 143 minutes long, and unless you count 23 as a 'few' minutes, then you're wrong.
Actually, it's 2 hours and 13 minutes. Those credits are actually 10 mintues long(unless you want to include that "surprise" after the credits as part of the movie. :P Still, Roeper gave "Thumbs Up" to longer movies before, so it makes no sense for him to give "Thumbs Down" to Pirates.

[quote="Just Myself a.k.a "Secret Disney Man"]BiT: Ebert and Roeper can actually be pretty harsh, especially family films. For them to give Cars a big thumbs up and call it Pixar's best is pretty big.
Did they give it "Two Big Thumbs Up"? Listen to their review on line, and it doesn't sound like they loved it as say Finding Nemo.[/quote]They didn't give it two big thumbs up, and they really haven't given ANY film two big thumbs up since Batman Begins. That doesn't change the fact thatt they called it Pixar's best. I have the review on DVD and on my iTunes. I've heard it 3-4 times.

-JM :thumb:

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:22 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
Just Myself wrote:They didn't give it two big thumbs up, and they really haven't given ANY film two big thumbs up since Batman Begins. That doesn't change the fact thatt they called it Pixar's best. I have the review on DVD and on my iTunes. I've heard it 3-4 times.

-JM :thumb:
Could you quote where in the review they said it was Pixar's best? I've listened it to 3 times and I can't hear where they say that.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:36 pm
by MadonnasManOne
AwallaceUNC wrote:Variety's review: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117930 ... =1263&cs=1

-Aaron
Thanks for posting, Aaron.

I'm still there on opening night! I can't wait!!! :D

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:07 pm
by Pluto Region1
TurdBizzler wrote:I was at the world premiere the other day.....cars was a pretty good movie, by far not the best pixar film, but i enjoyed it. the animation was amazing though....with out the doubt the best they've done.
But I understand from reading Aaron's review, you guys saw it outside on on some big screens, which to me - seeing anything outside, it seems it would be distracting. I think whether or not someone likes a film can be heavily influenced by environment.

For example, when I saw High School musical, I saw it at the El Capitan premiere with hundreds of people who were "enthusiasts" singing along... I thought it was a great film, but maybe I wouldn't have like it as much had I just watched it on my little 25" TV at home.... but I have been wanting to watch that film again recently (just haven't had the time to watch anything as of late). I don't know, maybe I'm a pushover, but I really liked the film - I don't usually like modern musicals like "Grease" etc, but I did like High School Musical and I don't think in this case I was overly influenced by the amazingly positive vibe in El Capitan.... I think I would have liked it regardless of where I saw it.

Another example, I remember going to see Rocky Horror Picture Show when I was 16 in a theater full of "enthusiasts" and frankly I just thought that was a weird film. That was the first and only time I've seen it and I wouldn't want to see that one again.

(Where am I going with this? I think I just disputed my own point! But I post this anyway for everyone to maybe comment on) :roll:

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:20 pm
by Pluto Region1
kbehm29 wrote:I'm glad to see it get two big thumbs up! Believe it or not, a lot of people read reviews, especially by Ebert and Roeper - and for them to say they LOVED the movie - it will make this movie all that much more successful.
I am one of those people... if E&R say "2 thumbs up" and I can (have the time to) go to the movies, I will mostly likely go to one that they've given that ranking to. I think alot of people pay attention to movie reviews, mostly people like me, who go so infrequently they want to be careful how they spend their money when they go to see a film. I probably only make it to the theaters 4 times a year. (And for someone who goes so infrequently to the movies, I seen a way disproportionate share of useless Quinton Tarantino movies, thanks to the insistence of my husband).

As for Finding Nemo - I only saw it on DVD and I thought it was great but after seeing it the 2nd time, I loved it more (which is unusual - usually stuff wears thin after the 2nd time) - I just loved the Jet stream and that father Turtle! Because I used to have a reef tank and be into fish keeping I really related to much of the movie (they did their homework on stuff like the dirty filter, etc)

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:22 pm
by AwallaceUNC
Pluto Region1 wrote:But I understand from reading Aaron's review, you guys saw it outside on on some big screens, which to me - seeing anything outside, it seems it would be distracting. I think whether or not someone likes a film can be heavily influenced by environment.
Honestly it was one of the best movie watching set-ups ever. The picture and sound were amazing and the climate outside was just perfect. The screens were huge and there was a pitch black sky. Being in the speedway even made the movie feel right at home. I've had viewing environments that were indeed distracting, but I can honestly say that this wasn't one of them.

-Aaron

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:22 pm
by PR Fan
Out of the Reviews that i have seen, I loved Time's Magazine's one and i'll judge this after i see it. Also Aaron was this the event Regis and Kelly were advertising on their show, if so cool.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:37 pm
by AwallaceUNC
PR Fan wrote:Also Aaron was this the event Regis and Kelly were advertising on their show, if so cool.
Yes. Unfortunately, Regis & Kelly had packed up and left before we ever got there, but it was the same event.

-Aaron

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:37 pm
by MadonnasManOne
The following is a review for Cars, which I feel sums up the idea behind why people are looking for Pixar to fail. It's human nature. This reviewer, who states that he "generally isn't a fan of computer animation", seems to truly love the film. The review is near the middle of the page:

http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gy ... id%3A42676

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WHILE IT MAY be too harsh (and depressing) to state that it's human nature to want to see something successful eventually fail, it might be accurate to note that it's human nature to expect something successful to finally take a tumble off the ladder. Admit it: Ever since Pixar Animation Studios began its incredible run with Toy Story back in 1995 (followed by five more toon blockbusters, the last being The Incredibles), haven't most observers been wondering when the company would hit a critical and/or commercial roadblock and watch its latest effort crash and burn?

Newsflash: It hasn't happened yet, and it ain't happening with Cars.

At a time when most moviemakers and studios are prostituting the venerable genre of the animated feature film, the only constants in terms of quality have been Japan's Hayao Miyazaki (Spirited Away, Castle In the Sky), England's Nick Park (the Wallace & Gromit adventures) and the United States' John Lasseter. Lasseter, the creative wizard behind Pixar (and now Walt Disney Pictures as well) has repeatedly stated that the key to any good animated film is the story, and of course he's absolutely right. But the success of Pixar rests with the fact that they go beyond good storytelling and beyond good visual schemes to provide their pictures with that extra oomph, whether it's in the tiny details (for instance, the restaurant briefly seen in Monsters, Inc. is called Harryhausen, after FX wizard Ray Harryhausen) or in the always spot-on voice casting (Pixar doesn't just go for the biggest A-listers but insists on finding the right person for each role).

The storyline for Cars actually seems a little hoary: A big-city slicker learns to slow down and smell the flowers -- or, in this case, the diesel -- in a small town in the middle of nowhere. Doc Hollywood, to name just one, has been there, done that. But the picture's six scripters expand the parameters of this plot description to make an entertaining and even poignant tale about the lure of the open road and the passing of a quaint chapter in modern American history. So for all its high-gloss NASCAR trappings, Cars is ultimately a paean to Route 66.

The cars are the characters -- no humans exist in this world -- and the most prominent vehicle is Lightning McQueen (voiced by Owen Wilson), a rookie sensation on the NASCAR circuit (the name is doubtless an homage to Steve McQueen, a real-life racing enthusiast). Lightning is cocky, conceited and convinced that he needs nobody's help to make it to the top. Clearly, Lightning is due for a comeuppance even more than he's due for an oil and filter change.

On his way to California to prepare for a race against a grizzled veteran known as the King (Richard Petty) and a loudmouth called Chick Hicks (Michael Keaton), Lightning unexpectedly winds up in Radiator Springs, a once-bustling Route 66 burg whose status rapidly collapsed once the interstate insured that all cross-country traffic would be diverted away from the town. Lightning is anxious to escape from this one-horsepower town, but circumstances force him to cool his wheels for a while. So in the meantime, he becomes acquainted with the locals, including Sally (Bonnie Hunt), a former big-city lawyer who prefers the simple life; Mater (Larry the Cable Guy), a "good ole boy" tow truck whose idea of a swell time is tipping the sleeping tractors; and Doc Hudson (Paul Newman), a sage automobile who might be able to teach the young hothead a few things about winning -- not only on the track but also in life and in love.

That Lightning will find redemption is never in doubt, but like the best storytellers, Lasseter and his co-writers make the journey to self-discovery as interesting as possible. Because the Pixar geniuses are able to convince us that these cars are sentient beings rather than hunks of metal, we become fully invested in their situations, and that adds surprising currency to the movie's wistful look at Route 66 and its historic worth as an umbilical cord that stretched out across the American terrain, bringing life to the generations of families that traversed it.

Regular readers know that I'm generally not a fan of computer animation, but Pixar is exempt from my scorn: These practitioners of the form operate at a level far beyond everyone else in Hollywood. The soulless quality that permeates most CGI toons is missing in this studio's output, and Cars nearly rivals the Toy Story twofer in creating life where none should exist. Yes, Pixar may indeed produce a flop one of these years, but for now, the future seems limitless, stretched out like an open road before it disappears into the sun-soaked horizon.

See next week's CL for interviews with Cars cast members.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:13 am
by Jules
Disney-Fan wrote:
Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:C'mon critics, get those bad reviews coming in and make Cars "rotten". :P
Why would you hope for such a thing? It almost sounds like some twisted jealousy of Pixar. :P

I'm sure T/P Fan just said that to tease Pixar fans. In fact he put the 'Razz' smiley next to it. :P


But you know, I really wish T/P fan reads this post of mine, because I want to tell him that I too am not particularly fond of Pixar films. Don't get me wrong...I like them, but I just don't enjoy them as much as the Disney Classics. Believe it or not, I also think that Finding Nemo is Pixar's weakest feature to date!

I think my favourite Pixar films are 'A Bug's Life' and the first nine tenths (9/10) of Monsters Inc. I cannot judge the last one tenth because I didn't see it, due to the DVD jamming in my player. It was a heavily scratched rental.

:wink:

By the way, maybe T/P Fan and I could create the 'Anti-Pixar-though-we-have-nothing-against-them-but-we-prefer-Disney-films Association!

Members can join for free...

(WHOOOSH!!!!!)

All places taken! Wow! What a popular association. Maybe we should upgrade!

'Anti-Pixar-though-we-have-nothing-against-them-but-we-prefer-Disney-films Company LTD'!!!!


© juliancarter™ - Timon/Pumbaa fan™ 2006



:lol: What a ton of rubbish!!

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:38 pm
by Jules
Ahem...is...um...anyone going to...er...continue discussing what we...uh...were discussing...er...up there?


Ebert and Roeper give "Two Big Thumbs Up" to the 'um's and 'er's and I don't know what on earth is going on in their cerebrum.