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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:16 am
by Disney-Fan
memnv wrote:your so full of it
Relax... Not everyone needs to love it. I do, you do, he doesn't... No need to get bitter.

Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:50 pm
by Escapay
Lazario wrote:The only Superman I ever cared for was Dean Cain
Ditto. Dean Cain was my first Superman as well, so I pretty much prefer him over any other (especially over Tom Welling and Brandon Routh).

Escapay

Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:53 pm
by 2099net
Escapay wrote:
Lazario wrote:The only Superman I ever cared for was Dean Cain
Ditto. Dean Cain was my first Superman as well, so I pretty much prefer him over any other (especially over Tom Welling and Brandon Routh).

Escapay
You haven't seen Brandon Routh's yet though. :?

The best Superman is actually the Timm/Dini animated one. And I'll fight anyone who insists otherwise.* Out of the live-action ones, George Reeves is actually the best. Those old Adventures of Superman my look old and corny, but they're actually surprisingly good and lots of fun.

* No I won't. But I may pull faces at them (if they aren't looking at me at the time)

Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:19 pm
by Escapay
2099net wrote:
Escapay wrote: Ditto. Dean Cain was my first Superman as well, so I pretty much prefer him over any other (especially over Tom Welling and Brandon Routh).

Escapay
You haven't seen Brandon Routh's yet though. :?
I've seen enough of Brandon Routh on One Life to Live (he was Seth from 2001-2002, before they mercifully recasted his character with a slightly-better-but-still-bad actor), and he's just another pretty-boy who should give back his SAG card.

Besides, he doesn't have that...Clark Kent-esque quality to him. He looks fine as Superman (well, maybe Fleischer Superman), but his Clark Kent doesn't look...Kentish. Reeves, Reeve, and Cain all had a very Kentish look. Routh looks like a pre-transformation character on a makeover episode of some sitcom where you've got this good looking person hiding behind ugly clothes and glasses, and all the main character does is take the glasses off and stick them in some Abercrombie and Fitch get-up.

Escapay

Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:44 pm
by Disney-Fan
I actually enjoy Welling's Clark quite a bit. He brings a new type of Clark to the table. One that besides being sometimes geeky and shy, also shows a great sence of loyalty and strength. It's perhaps the ONLY Superman character I've truely related to as a human being.

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:09 am
by ichabod
DisneyFan 2000 wrote:Relax... Not everyone needs to love it. I do, you do, he doesn't... No need to get bitter.
If only you'd taken a similar stance regarding our discussions about Home on the Range! ;)

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:15 am
by Disney-Fan
ichabod wrote:If only you'd taken a similar stance regarding our discussions about Home on the Range! ;)
I'm not bitter! I just hate you for loving it... :D

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:30 am
by Lazario
memnv wrote:You're so full of it
You can't prove it.
Escapay wrote:Dean Cain was my first Superman as well, so I pretty much prefer him over any other (especially over Tom Welling and Brandon Routh).
Woah - Brandon Routh is the new Superman? Holy hell, I'm a big fan of his! In a way that I don't follow his career and have only seen him in 1 thing. But in that one thing, I'm a huge fan. He has an unbelievable body. I guess I'll have to get my insiders to get me into this one early after all!

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:06 am
by Escapay
Lazario wrote:
Escapay wrote:Dean Cain was my first Superman as well, so I pretty much prefer him over any other (especially over Tom Welling and Brandon Routh).
Woah - Brandon Routh is the new Superman?
Unfortunately. Would've preferred Matt Bomer or Henry Cavill, both who were contenders when Brett Ratner was originally slated to direct the film.

I will give you the body thing, though. He's got the perfect build for a classic Supes, like the Fleisher Superman.

What was the one thing you saw him in? Based on his imdb, he's only done two shows as a series regular (One Life to Live and MTV's Undressed), and has had a few one-episode guest spots, plus one other movie I've never heard of.

Escapay

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:11 am
by 2099net
Escapay wrote:Unfortunately. Would've preferred Matt Bomer or Henry Cavill, both who were contenders when Brett Ratner was originally slated to direct the film.

I will give you the body thing, though. He's got the perfect build for a classic Supes, like the Fleisher Superman.
Yes, but would you prefer a Ratner film? :huh:

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:29 am
by Lazario
2099net wrote:Yes, but would you prefer a Ratner film? :huh:
Gosh, I know what you mean. Wasn't he at one point a music video director? Before/after making the short film that became Rush Hour? Or do I have the wrong director? That's the same guy, right?
Escapay wrote:I will give you the body thing, though.
Based on his imdb, he's only done two shows as a series regular (One Life to Live and MTV's Undressed).
The second you said his name, I immediately said to myself they just chose him because he's a TV vet (which does not speak to their credibility) who looks the part (because he sure looks the part). I'm a fan of his work on Undressed. I meant what I said about his body being unbelievable, I had to accept the fact that I was seriously attracted to a guy who, in his underwear, actually has a muscularity (with a pastey skin complection and weak elasticity) that looks silicone-enhanced. Probably the fault of poor camera angles (that show is sort of notorious for it's poor camerawork). He had the muscles, but somehow it looked like loose flab at a certain unflattering angle. But he is a big guy with a very hulking muscularity not done proper justice by MTV.

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:45 am
by Escapay
2099net wrote:
Escapay wrote:Unfortunately. Would've preferred Matt Bomer or Henry Cavill, both who were contenders when Brett Ratner was originally slated to direct the film.

I will give you the body thing, though. He's got the perfect build for a classic Supes, like the Fleisher Superman.
Yes, but would you prefer a Ratner film? :huh:
That's the double-edged sword, unfortunately. Would Supes be better with Bomer or Cavill in the role but Ratner directing...or Routh in the role but Singer directing?

Too bad it couldn't be Singer and Cavill, who every time I think about it, would definitely be the better Supes.

Escapay

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 11:53 am
by memnv
Lazario wrote:
memnv wrote:You're so full of it
You can't prove it.
Can you prove your not, If you see movies in advance why have you not ever mentioned it before. DvdJunkie sees them and reviews them, Tell us how you get to see them, And don't say it is because you have friends working at a movie theater, because they don't get the movie this far in advance

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:54 pm
by Lazario
memnv wrote:Can you prove your not, If you see movies in advance why have you not ever mentioned it before.
Where? When? I didn't know there was a special topic for that sort of thing and I'm going to start one, I never thought anyone would be that impressed. But it's still a fact. And I never mentioned it in the What Was the Last Movie You Saw discussion because there are a lot of movies I don't mention in that topic. I see a lot more movies than I talk about.
memnv wrote:Tell us how you get to see them, And don't say it is because you have friends working at a movie theater, because they don't get the movie this far in advance
I have friends who work inside the studios who do work promoting (who are in correspondance with the TV Guide Channel and AMC network) and testing several new movies (mostly for 20th Century Fox and DreamWorks). When they do test screenings before putting together TV advertisements, or for critics on several newspapers, I often get a chance to see them before a lot of other people.

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:57 pm
by memnv
still dont believe you

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:13 pm
by Lazario
That's funny because you don't have to. Besides, if you did, I'd have to reconsider my position.

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:08 pm
by memnv
whatever, because then you would admit your lie that you are in

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:19 am
by Disney-Fan
Ironically, we're bickering in a Superman thread, a character that incidently stands for peace. :P

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:27 am
by memnv
lol

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:21 pm
by Lazario
memnv wrote:whatever, because then you would admit your lie that you are in
Well I guess it's just your intuition (you the one who thinks women's sole purpose in life is to keep men from "liking" other men) versus my word. You'll never be able to prove I'm wrong. Stop trying, you just can't do it.