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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:37 am
by kbehm29
Wow! I had no idea so many people had so much disdain for Chicken Little. My whole family enjoyed the movie, and I can't wait to buy it on DVD.
I will be putting it next to Home on the Range....in my mind, it's the next animated "classic", being made by WDFA.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:28 pm
by BrandonH
I arrange mine in order from least favorite to favorite, so it will probably go somewhere in the middle but in the better half.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:00 pm
by Loomis
2099net wrote:Due to its unconfirmed status, I'm going have it placed at a 42.5 degree angle away from Home on the Range, and a distance no less than 2.4 inches away from Dinosaur (Collector's Edition) (but certainly no more than 5 inches).
Or failing that, it will be piled up on the floor next to my armchair.
Damn, now my idea is unoriginal.
I guess I have to resort to plan B: constructing a dedicated bookshelf for every dubiously ranked 'classic'.
Well, given this is the "future" of Disney (at least for the time being), it belong just after Home on the Range, or on a dedicated shelf with Meet the Robinsons, The Wild, Rapunzel etc. They are all 'Disney' titles to be released that seem to be direct successors to the animated classics.
My DVD will be filed under "C" for Chicken Little on the Disney shelf (my classics are arranged alaphetically).
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:07 pm
by ChrisLyne
Well it's not a "Classic" too me, but I do count it as Classic #45 unless the UK DVD cover says otherwise (our DVDs always have Classic logo on them).
I'll be starting my Disney Classics Blu-Ray collection with this film. I couldn't afford to get more than the films I really liked on DVD, but now I've finished uni I'm planning on getting all the Classics on Blu-Ray (or whatever the next format ends up being).
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:28 am
by consultant
My collection is defined as all titles produced by Disney Animated Features. So essentially I will have to buy CL and put it after Home on the Range to make my collection complete. In fact CL may become somewhat of a collector's item in it's own right since it is Disney's first true CGI animation, and, it may represent the last release by "Disney Animated Features" as we've known it for so many years. Essentially this is a huge turning point in Disney History which CL represents.
Originally I wanted my collection to be only hand drawn animated features but they started blurring the lines with Fantasia 2000 and the clock scene from Mouse Detective, I realized I would have to include CGI in my collection going forward. I think it is obvious with the acquisition of Pixar we are going to see hand drawn feature releases become very infrequent (or extinct) as it always boils down to the mighty dollar so if Disney can produce Animated Features chearper using CGI, then that's what they will do. I just hope they will resurrect hand-drawn once in a while.
I acquired the Toy Story Toy Box and the two new 2-disc releases and have decided to sell them because they are not Disney Animated Feature releases they are Pixar animations (superb films at that) that were just bank rolled and distributed by Disney. I'll just rent them (and Dinosaurs) whenever I feel like watching them.
If Pixar became a long-term Disney Rival instead of being swallowed up, a separate collection of Pixar titles might have been pretty cool. But the power and history of Disney is enormous.
Re: Chicken Little DVD - where to put on shelf?
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:51 pm
by Aladdin from Agrabah
mexico_ride wrote:Where are we putting Chicken Little. Is this considered an Animated Classic? Are we putting it next to Home on the Range!?
Or are you putting it in your "other" section!?
Yeah, I have another section for you. It's called garbagecan. That's where you should put it. However, I think that the other stuff in there would be insulted by the new arrival.
Not a good time for a Chicken movie, considering that the evian flew is in the air.
Re: Chicken Little DVD - where to put on shelf?
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:19 pm
by reyquila
Aladdin from Agrabah wrote:mexico_ride wrote:Where are we putting Chicken Little. Is this considered an Animated Classic? Are we putting it next to Home on the Range!?
Or are you putting it in your "other" section!?
Yeah, I have another section for you. It's called garbagecan. That's where you should put it. However, I think that the other stuff in there would be insulted by the new arrival.
Not a good time for a Chicken movie, considering that the evian flew is in the air.
So much hate!!! From a person that probably owns ten o fifteen movies!!!
No standing=no posting!! Chicken Little certainly isn't a 10 but it is a 8.5!!
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:27 pm
by castleinthesky
Well Chicken Little is one of the few movies of 2005 I gave a straightforward "F" rank. However being a completist I will buy it and put it beside Dinosaur. In my opinion I still believe Dinosaur to be the first Disney CGI (who cares if it used some pictures in it).
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:29 pm
by reyquila
castleinthesky wrote:Well Chicken Little is one of the few movies of 2005 I gave a straightforward "F" rank. However being a completist I will buy it and put it beside Dinosaur. In my opinion I still believe Dinosaur to be the first Disney CGI (who cares if it used some pictures in it).
Completist. That concept also describes myself.
Re: Chicken Little DVD - where to put on shelf?
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:42 pm
by Escapay
reyquila wrote:So much hate!!! From a person that probably owns ten o fifteen movies!!!
No standing=no posting!!
Lordy...
Just because he owns 10-15 DVDs doesn't mean he can't post his thoughts on the placement of the forthcoming Chicken Little DVD.
Someone here needs to lighten up and realize that not everyone's made of money that they can buy every Disney DVD out there and feel that that makes their opinion justified.
I joined UD in January 2004, I only had FOUR Disney DVDs: Swiss Family Robinson, Tuck Everlasting, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Freaky Friday. Did my lack of Disney movies give my opinions on DVDs less weight? Hardly. I read nearly every review on UD and was able to base my opinions on that. I didn't need to buy a P&S DVD to say, "I hate now Disney releases P&S DVDs!". I certainly didn't need to buy Platinums in order to say "I love that Disney is releasing these in the Platinum line!". Of course, since January 2004 I have collected Disney DVDs (76 at last count, not counting Touchstone, Miramax, Hollywood, Studio Ghibli, Dimension, etc., but counting Pixar). Does that mean that my opinion is stronger with 76 Disney DVDs as opposed to 4? No. And I'm sure my opinion wouldn't be any stronger if I had 300 Disney DVDs over 76.
Did you ever stop to think that Aladdin from Agrabah simply did not like Chicken Little, which is his reason for not wanting the DVD and advising people to chuck it into the garbage? I doubt you did, you're too busy buying Disney DVDs and chastising others for not having a large enough collection. People don't have to like (or buy) EVERY SINGLE FRICKING product that Disney shells out in order to qualify as a "Disney Fan". Please, get that through your head before you start telling us that our DVD opinions don't matter since our collections are so
small.
Escapay
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:06 pm
by Timon/Pumbaa fan
Escapay- Even though I know what you're saying and agree with everything you're saying, I don't think that was reyquila's point.
I think his point was that he was tired of hearing everybody saying comments like "Chicken Little belongs in the garbage" when that is not the point of this thread.
This isn't a "Chicken Little- Is it a good movie?" thread or a "Chicken Little discussion", it's a thread about a person asking about where they should put the movie on their shelf. Frankly I happen to agree wit requila. Anybody who says "Chicken Little shouldn't even be in your collection" like comments is just wasting bandwidth and wasting the main poster's time.
As for the topic, I say put it next to Home on the Range as well. This IS an animated classic. It was made at the Disney studio where all the other 44 animated classics were made and should be looked as one of them.
Dinosaur was made by a COMPLETELY different company owned by
Disney, which got closed when Dinosaur performed poorly than expected. It should be put with the "Other" crowd.
*This post has been edited for spelling errors!
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:20 pm
by Escapay
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:Escapay- Even though I know what you're saying and agree with everything you're saying, I don't think that was reyquila's point.
I think his point was that he was tired of hearing everybody saying comments like "Chicken Little belongs in the garbage" when that is no the point of this thread.
This isn't a "Chicken Little- Is it a good movie?" thread or a "Chicken Little discussion", it's asking about a question of where they should put the movie. Frankly I happen to agree wit requila. Anybody who says "Chicken Little shouldn't even be in your collection" like comments is just waisting bandwidth and waisting the main poster's time.
If reyquila would just put more into his posts than 2 lines that are so general that it CAN be taken the wrong way, then I'd understand his point better. And now that I do, I would agree that those simply saying "put it in the trash" doesn't further the discussion, which is focused on people intent on buying the movie and where to put it.
As for me, I'd put it after Home on the Range, since it's a WDFA.
Escapay
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:16 am
by 2099net
consultant wrote:
I acquired the Toy Story Toy Box and the two new 2-disc releases and have decided to sell them because they are not Disney Animated Feature releases they are Pixar animations (superb films at that) that were just bank rolled and distributed by Disney. I'll just rent them (and Dinosaurs) whenever I feel like watching them.
If Pixar became a long-term Disney Rival instead of being swallowed up, a separate collection of Pixar titles might have been pretty cool. But the power and history of Disney is enormous.
No offence consultant, but I can't understand this logic at all. You
HAVE the Ultimate Toybox, which is already a grade 1 collectable. And yet, for some reason I don't get, you are selling it? Already?
I used to collect comics, I still would if I had the money. But one thing I learnt from my hobby was - there's only one type of collectable: Items where the demand outstrips the supply.
Sometimes the demand is artificially created such as DC's excellent premium hardcovers with slipcases and truely limited printings, and sometimes it just something which catches everyone by surprise - would would have guessed at the time Wolverine's first apperance in Hulk 181 would be so important?
First issues hyped to the moon rarely, if ever, become valuable because they have an extended print run. Look at the X-Men #1 - Millions of copies were printed for each of the 6 covers. And it's virtually worthless as a result. There's far too many floating about for people to even consider it in the least bit rare or hard to find.
You have the Ultimate Toybox, and the demand is already greater than the supply. It is already a collectable. Please keep it.
I can't see Chicken Little having a limited distribution or sales window, so I can never see Chicken Little becoming all that valuable.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:34 am
by Stinky Pete
2099net wrote:Due to its unconfirmed status, I'm going have it placed at a 42.5 degree angle away from Home on the Range, and a distance no less than 2.4 inches away from Dinosaur (Collector's Edition) (but certainly no more than 5 inches).
Or failing that, it will be piled up on the floor next to my armchair.
I like this answer the best. Obviously, none of you extremely organized Disney fans have children under age 10. I can put mine in classical numerical order and come back 2 weeks later and there is no order, only madness. I would love to be as organized with my Disney movies I have as you guys, but...
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:14 am
by kbehm29
Stinky Pete wrote:Obviously, none of you extremely organized Disney fans have children under age 10. I can put mine in classical numerical order and come back 2 weeks later and there is no order, only madness. I would love to be as organized with my Disney movies I have as you guys, but...
No offense, but I have five children (ages 1-10). They are not allowed to touch the Disney DVD's. If they want to watch one, they ask me to get it down (from a high shelf above most of their reach....the 10-yr-old has gotten too tall LOL). I put the DVD in and take it out for them.
A lot of the rest of my DVD's I couldn't care less about.....but the Disney DVD's are part of my real "collection", and I can't stand the thought of them being handled incorrectly.
Maybe I'm too strict with them...
Re: Chicken Little DVD - where to put on shelf?
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:29 am
by Aladdin from Agrabah
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Re: Chicken Little DVD - where to put on shelf?
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:03 am
by ichabod
Aladdin from Agrabah wrote:Not a good time for a Chicken movie, considering that the evian flew is in the air.
Dear lord! First Bird flu, Now even the water is unsafe to drink!

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:58 am
by consultant
castleinthesky wrote:Well Chicken Little is one of the few movies of 2005 I gave a straightforward "F" rank. However being a completist I will buy it and put it beside Dinosaur. In my opinion I still believe Dinosaur to be the first Disney CGI (who cares if it used some pictures in it).
Wouldn't TRON technically be Disney's first movie utilizing CGI?
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:52 pm
by consultant
2099net wrote:
You have the Ultimate Toybox, and the demand is already greater than the supply. It is already a collectable. Please keep it.
I can't see Chicken Little having a limited distribution or sales window, so I can never see Chicken Little becoming all that valuable.
I'm not collecting Disney DVD's as an investment and don't think any of these DVDs should be considered an investment from the monetary standpoint. All these DVDs were mass produced in quantities of hundreds of thousands if not into the millions. Most all of these DVDs will be re-released at some point on a higher definition media format making these technically obsolete just as DVD has made VHS obsolete. Disney's first VHS release was Dumbo. It can be had in mint condition on E-bay for under $10 as can titles like Snow White Platinum Collection VHS. A TRON "Exclusive Archive Collection" 3-disc box set in laserdisc format can be had for under $40. You can buy Disney Vinyl Records released in the late 50's and 60's for around $30-$60 depending on the title and condition. Note that these records and laserdiscs were produced in FAR FAR smaller quantities than all the DVDs everyone is collecting.
Old threads discussing Toy Box were talking about how expensive it was to buy now that it was OOP, $80,$90,$100+. You can now buy an authentic Region 1 sealed set for $50 or less on E-bay - price has gone down due to the release of 10th Anniv. and 2 SE versions which have superior video and sound quality. I've seen one post that these superior quality versions may come out in a collectors box set.
I'm dumping all my Pixar titles because I decided to limit my collection soley to Animated Classics created by Disney, not anything produced by Disney.
What I'm really curious about is why Chicken Little is considered an Animated Classic (#45) and Dinosaur is not when they are both Disney creations and both came out of Disney Animated Features - at least I believe Dinosaur was in a special division of DAF called the "Secret Lab" or something. So why does it not make the Animated Classic list and crappy Chicken Little does? Just because they used real-life photos for backdrops? Give me a break.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:14 pm
by 2099net
consultant wrote:
What I'm really curious about is why Chicken Little is considered an Animated Classic (#45) and Dinosaur is not when they are both Disney creations and both came out of Disney Animated Features - at least I believe Dinosaur was in a special division of DAF called the "Secret Lab" or something. So why does it not make the Animated Classic list and crappy Chicken Little does? Just because they used real-life photos for backdrops? Give me a break.
The Secret Lab wasn't connected to Walt Disney Feature Animation in any way. It was actually a rebranding of "Buena Vista Visual Effects" when they decided to open up and contract out their special effects*, much like Lucasfilm has ILM. The Secret Lab did the effect for the non-Disney Kangaroo Jack film for example, among others, such as the Touchstone Reign of Fire, but never managed to pay for itself on external or internal effects work; Disney would often still contract ILM, DreamQuest Images or similar for their films even when the Secret Lab was running (and Dinosaur's budget didn't help either).
However, some animators were "consulted" and even sub-contracted by the Secret Lab for Dinosaur. But it wasn't a WDFA film, just like The Jungle Book 2 or Return to Never Land isn't, but Rescuers Down Under is.
* This information may be wrong.
Wow, look at that edit count! That will teach me to repetedly pound the submit button when editing!
