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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:25 pm
by GhostHost
Tolhurst wrote:Mr. Toad wrote:There are more educational shorts than any other category. And I'm A Bird, Donald in Mathmagic Land, Scrooge McDuck and Money and FreewayPhobia are not considered educational shorts. With the exception of Mathmagic Land(which is a Donald short) they are considered to be Specials(what makes up the Rarities set).
To be fair they are available to purchase for educators....
They can easily justify putting them on an educational treasures, hell they probably would double dip Donald In Mathmagicland!!
To answer an earlier question, they could make another Disneyland USA set from the TV show....
Disneyland 4th anniversary (57)
The Golden Horseshoe Revue (62)
Holidaytime at Disneyland (62)
Disneyland Goes TO The World's Fair (64)
Disneyland around the seasons (66)
and if they ever go past 66' , I'd like the one with the Osmunds and Kurt Russell seeing the Haunted Mansion for the first time!
There is also a live TV series (13 episodes) from 1962 called Meet Me At Disneyland which broadcast live performances from around the park.
Think 'Disneyland After Dark' but each segment would be it's own hour...... I would absolutley buy this if ever released on DVD.
glad there are enough left to fill up another set.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:56 pm
by Mr. Toad
pppapazo wrote:Thanks. I didn't know that about the Animated Classics.
What are "Two for the Record" and "Contrast in Rhythm," though? I don;t recall those segments from Make Mine Music and Melody Time.
The information is both in Leonard Maltin's book on the History of Walt Disney movies and the Big Cartton Database. I am thinking Contrast in Rhythm may be a retitling of Blame it on the Samba. Not sure about Two for the Record.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:12 pm
by MK Sharp
pppapazo wrote:Thanks. I didn't know that about the Animated Classics.
What are "Two for the Record" and "Contrast in Rhythm," though? I don;t recall those segments from Make Mine Music and Melody Time.
Two For The Record is a coupling of the two Benny Goodman segments from MMM (
After You've Gone and
All The Cats Join In).
Contrast In Rhythm features a pairing of
Trees and
Bumble Boogie from MT - which, I'm sure you'll agree, is quite a contrast.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:27 pm
by Mr. Toad
There we go, somebody had the answer.
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:30 pm
by Lars Vermundsberget
Little Red Henski wrote:All 3 Chip & Dale shorts have already been released on DVD.
Why rolleyes? I'd say we're talking about Treasures here, not just any "DVDs".
On topic - obviously there is a LOT of material that could be used for the "Educational" Treasure(s). But most of this wasn't exactly made for entertainment purposes, so I'd imagine there wouldn't be much call for a complete series. A good selection or two would be highly interesting, though. Hope this materializes.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:22 pm
by pppapazo
Mr. Toad wrote:I have been working on this for awhile from a number of sources including BCDB. They are not quite rigt yet but these are the theatrical shorts.
...
7 Goofy 47
...
I've been trying to classify a bunch of shorts myself, and I'm specifically having trouble figuring out how you got 47 Goofy shorts. I only have 46, inlcuding Aquamania but not either Freewayphobia.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:01 pm
by Lars Vermundsberget
How to Ride a Horse, perhaps?
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:03 am
by deathie mouse
well i got like about 93 Goofy appearances on film before the Goof Troop TV show so maybe one of them slipped through the cracks
which only means that Goofy has been in as many other places as he has been in his own shorts!
(93/2 = 46.5
) Mr.Toad's info can tip the scales either way
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:15 am
by pppapazo
Lars Vermundsberget wrote:How to Ride a Horse, perhaps?
That might be it, but wouldn't it be classified as an "Animated Classic" since it was first released in The Reluctant Dragon? Or does that not count, since The Reluctant Dragon wasn't technically one of Disney's 44 official feature-length animated films?
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:08 am
by Mr. Toad
Yes How to Ride a Horse is probably the difference. Debatable how to clasify that one. However, Maltin classified it as a Goofy short and he got his information from Disney. The Big Cartoon Database classifies it as a Special. So that one is debatable for classification as are many.
I like Deathie's solution we will put half of it on the Goofy list and the other half on the Specials or Animated Classic list. The universe will remain in perfect balance.
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:54 am
by pppapazo
Interesting. Where did you find Maltin's classifications? I'm wondering why, if that's the series he puts the short in, it wasn't released on The Complete Goofy. I'm guessing they didn't want to double dip between Treasures back in Wave 2. They sure have changed their mind about that, though.
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:05 pm
by Mr. Toad
I am thinking the Goofy decision came down to time available on the DVD. No other title has had close to that many shorts.
Maltin's Classifications come from the most excellent book - The Disney Films. It indicates the short has a Goofy title card and also indicates it originated as part of the Reluctant Dragon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786885270/qid=1126807354/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-1442826-4453628?v=glance&s=books
Very well done. By my count they only missed one theatrically produced short.
It includes about fifteen pages of information on Disney shorts and then eight pages of discography.