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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:03 am
by jamminjake245
dvdjunkie wrote:LizzieMcGuire needs to re-read her post and do some quick editing. There are a lot of no-sense-making statements in her last two paragraphs. I know we can all read into it that she means VHS where she says DVD, but c'mon, we all need to make sure our posts are grammatically correct before submitting them.....................
It is a sad day indeed for those who refuse to join the 21st Century. DVD's are here to stay unlike 45 RPM and LP records which were replaced with CD's.
About the scratching and skipping thing.......you need to learn to take better care of your DVD's.
I havd DVD's that I bought the first day they were released to the public almost 20 years ago, and they don't skip or have any scratches. It is all in the care. They don't belong stacked on top of one another out of their protective case, and they don't belong left in a player after using them. They do collect dust and dust leads to scratches, you have to make some effort to keep them clean, and keep them out of harm's way.

DVDs were not out 20 years ago. They were invented in 1997. Maybe you mean lazer disk?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:30 am
by Lars Vermundsberget
mvealf wrote:dvdjunkie wrote:I havd DVD's that I bought the first day they were released to the public almost 20 years ago, and they don't skip or have any scratches.
I don't know how you bought them almost 20 years ago, since they have only been around for 8 years.
I suggest you leave that guy alone. He's also persistent in telling us that the only way to watch movies is in widescreen.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:33 am
by Tom in North Carolina
Lars Vermundsberget wrote:He's also persistent in telling us that the only way to watch movies is in widescreen.
Is there any other way????
Tom

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:41 am
by Lars Vermundsberget
Oh, do I have to comment on that?
Alice in Wonderland, just to name one, should not be watched in WS.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:43 am
by That Announcer
Lars Vermundsberget wrote:Oh, do I have to comment on that?
Alice in Wonderland, just to name one, should not be watched in WS.
Perhaps he means OAR...
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:47 am
by Lars Vermundsberget
That Announcer wrote:Perhaps he means OAR...
Yes, most probably, and that's what it should say.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:48 am
by Siren
No love lost here with losing VHS. I haven't bought a VHS in I think 4-5 years. Least not one for me. I sometimes buy some cheap ones for my daughter.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:30 am
by Tom in North Carolina
That Announcer wrote:Perhaps he means OAR...
Definitely!!
Tom
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:57 pm
by singerguy04
it's about time! i'm tired of my friends who believe that VHS is better and that DVD is a fad that'll die out. it's rediculous i know, but at least maybe now they'll see the light, lol
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:14 pm
by deathie mouse
singerguy04 wrote:it's about time! i'm tired of my friends who believe that VHS is better and that DVD is a fad that'll die out. it's rediculous i know, but at least maybe now they'll see the light, lol
I hear that's kinda what they're saying about
Blu-ray today

Disney DVDs and VHSs
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:52 pm
by Disney Duster
They
are saying things like that about Blu-Ray, as well as Widescreen. Some people don't even know what Original Aspect Ratio is. I don't know everything, of course (actually I lot I've learned on these forums!), but that's the whole problem. The people aren't educated. Some people just prefer Fullscreen because the Widescreen makes the picture small, which is true. But some people don't like Widescreen just because it's smaller, but because there's "little black bars on the top and bottom". Why some people wouldn't want the chapter selection(which is an underrated feature of DVDs that beats all the rewinding and fast-forwarding of VHSs) and the amazing bonus features on DVDs is unknown to me, though. People.
Also, some Disney movies have only been on DVD before, as has already been stated. But even though Herbie is getting a DVD only release, other movies are still getting VHSs, too.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:59 pm
by Disneybell
i have something to say about widescreen i m visually impared i m considered legally blind and so the *little black bars* make it hard for me to see the full picture and so I prefer full frame or anamorphic widescreen if its not available in anamorphic widescrean or full frame i just dont buy it b/c its too hard for me to see. so ya i love dvds but when i got pirates of the caribean the widescreen was wayy too hard for me to see with the black bars so i had to give it away

so i was sad ugh just glad the disney movies are anamorphic so thats always a bonus
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:15 pm
by Paka
Interestingly enough, I was just doing a search on Amazon a few days ago - looking for the new, Disney-distributed waves of Studio Ghibli films on VHS... just out of sheer curiosity, really. From what I found with a quick search, the first wave from 2003 had VHS counterparts, but the subsequent waves had DVDs only. Kind of a shame when you consider what's coming in the next wave -
Howl's Moving Castle is a new Miyazaki film, and
My Neighbor Totoro is, in my opinion, almost a "required-viewing" for kids... it's such a beautifully told, whimsical film! Yet it does
not pander down to kids, which is a big plus. As inevitable as a VHS dieout is, it's still somewhat unfortunate that straggler families with VHS-only households will miss out on the opportunity...
Well, anyhoo - I suppose there's always the old Fox VHS of
Totoro - but that's quickly becoming harder to find at retail stores...

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:14 am
by dvdjunkie
Disneybell..........ANAMORPHIC IS WIDESCREEN!!! That is what we are talking about. Maybe what you are saying is that you only have a small screen television (19" or smaller) and that would make it a little harder to see. But
Pirates of the Caribbean was anamorphic widescreen. What you need to do is get a bigger television screen. That would solve the problem.
Okay, I stand corrected about the length of time since DVD's first came out, it seems they have been out a lot longer. Yes, I also have LaserDisc movies and none of those skip either. Anyway, it is all in the way you take care of the disc, your disc will only skip or get scratched if you mistreat it. Remember, it is not a playtoy, it is a piece of equipment.
Widescreen is the only way to watch a movie, if it is available that way. OAR is very important, and "Alice in Wonderland" has never been issued widescreen, it is 1.33:1, which is where it should be. "The Great Locomotive Chase" was 2.20:1, thus it is widescreen. Newer titles in the Diney catalogue are 1.85:1 so they do fill the screen properly on a widescreen television set. You techno-geeks drive me crazy. My signature is correct in the way it is written. If you want ot read something more into it, that is your problem, no mine!

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:53 pm
by Disneybell
I have a nice sized tv about 25 inches or so but the black bars still show up on pirates on some other movie it doesnt but that one it did and it was just oo hard to watch so i m fine with full frame i mean i also dont have perifel vision(side vison) so i can only see whats in front me so i m fine with full frame heck i m just glad my sight is good enough to enjoy movies lol
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:41 pm
by Escapay
dvdjunkie wrote: Remember, it is not a playtoy, it is a piece of equipment:
Remember, we are not five year olds, we are mature young adults who know damn well how to take care of a DVD.
Escapay
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:39 pm
by Nala
Disneybell wrote:I have a nice sized tv about 25 inches or so but the black bars still show up on pirates on some other movie it doesnt but that one it did and it was just oo hard to watch so i m fine with full frame i mean i also dont have perifel vision(side vison) so i can only see whats in front me so i m fine with full frame heck i m just glad my sight is good enough to enjoy movies lol
Black bars will still show up if your TV is 4x3 as it isn't a widescreen TV. If your TV is Widescreen, the bars wouldn't show up. Those are 16x9.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:25 am
by Douglas Fir
Disneybell wrote:I have a nice sized tv about 25 inches or so but the black bars still show up on pirates on some other movie it doesnt but that one it did and it was just oo hard to watch so i m fine with full frame i mean i also dont have perifel vision(side vison) so i can only see whats in front me so i m fine with full frame heck i m just glad my sight is good enough to enjoy movies lol
That is because Pirates of the Caribbean was 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen... hence still black bars. Because if the ratio is wider than 16:9 there will always be black bars on a widescreen TV.
If you have a sight problem and don't mind about watching movies in their original aspect ratios why not use the zoom button (most widescreen TVs offer various "picture size" options or failing that your DVD player might have a zoom function) - and essentially watch your own kind of hybrid widescreen / pan & scan version? It might not be perfect but at least you'd be able to see it.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:17 pm
by Prince Adam
This is sad. Not just for nostalgia reasons, but others as well.
I've lost all interest in DVD, in that I only prefer them because VHS is too hard to find.
For one, I don't give a rat's you-know-what about OAR-if it means the picture is going to be smaller, I don't like it. The Pirates of the Carribbean DVD is just plain ridiculous-I'm not legally blind, but I do have problems with my eyes which are not helped by having to sit so close.
I would rather have a nice "fool"-screen DVD that will fill my TV screen.
And I really don't care about bonus features any more-who has time to sit and watch 3 discs and 10+ hours of making-of stuff? And a documentary of one ship's journey to the film site of POTC is hardly ideal for repeated viewing...
And DVD's are not easy to take care of. You could practically beat up a VHS and it would still last. Try telling a little preschooler with sticky fingers to handle the disc with care...
So there's my rant. Wow, DVD's have booming sound and a more accurate ratio. But I personally do not find them worth the extra $5 any more.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:38 pm
by chaychay102royal
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:My sister will be so sad!
Yeah it's about time. I guess schools will have no other choice than to replace their VCRs with DVD players.
Your schools still have VCRs? My elementary school (when I was in fifth grade, a long time ago) updated their movie-playing machine before I did. I'm pretty sure that the high school I will be attending has DVD players too.