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This is ridiculous and foolish on ABC's part! The main actors are leaving and they had the perfect opportunity to wrap up this show. Sorry to be negative, but this is not going to last long.

It'll have 22 episodes like a normal season.

Apparently the renewal has a great deal to do with Netflix profits (something about an eight-figure deal):

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... abc-997815

Disney's Divinity wrote:Once Upon a Time has been renewed for a seventh season!!!

I mean, I know it won't be the same as it was without Rebecca Mader, Goodwin, and Morrison, but I'll stick it out to the end. If I made it through season 6, I can make it through anything.

Has it been confirmed that Rebecca Mader won't be returning? I haven't seen anything on her yet. I'll definitely keep watching this show to the end but I would be ecstatic if Zelena got a more central role, especially since the show will probably be led by Regina and Rumple now (alongside Hook). The problem with Zelena was that she had no relationships with Emma, Henry, or the Charmings so that sidelined her into the subplot category with whatever Regina would typically be dealing with. Hopefully now she can get more of a spotlight.

Disney's Divinity wrote:Carlyle! Drat it all. At least Belle most likely won't be returning (since according to my above theory she's dead in the Wish Realm), but that doesn't make me any more interested in seeing more of Rumpel.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Any show that might featureRobin as a main lead is one I don't want to watch.

The bright side is Wish Robin was more interesting than real Robin ever was, but I'm not a fan of the actor anyway.

I'm glad that it seems Belle is out of the show as well. I heard she was leaving alongside Henry and the Charmings' actors. True, I actually didn't mind Wish Verse Robin as much as I thought. I guess I could put up with him if I had to but I really rather not.

JeanGreyForever wrote: Has it been confirmed that Rebecca Mader won't be returning? I haven't seen anything on her yet.

Just confirmed, unfortunately. I don't care about the Charmings, Henry, and Belle going, just Zelena and Emma. I would've rather they got rid of Rumpel and kept Zelena (and I imagine Mader would cost less money than Carlyle). I could see more story being done with Regina, and of course she and Hook are the fan favorites, but Rumpel has long since been played out. Who even watches for him anymore? Where can he go except further down the hole?

(I'm not bashing the actor, because Carlyle does the best he can do. The character has just been done for me since the end of 5A.)

Apparently (I'll get the link later), Season 7 will be focused on Regina, Rumple, and Hook. Bad guys facing their past?

Focusing on Hook without Emma and Rumple without Belle just seems weird. I too am not expecting this to last much longer... & agree it probably was extended just to fill out an 8 season deal.

It's been confirmed that next season is going to feature a big time jump. We also know that it's going to feature a new setting instead of Storybrooke (the sets were taken down in Steveston where the show was filmed).

It's also been confirmed that the actors portraying Belle, Henry, Snow, and Charming, won't be returning next season. Interestingly, both Rebecca Mader and Emilie de Ravin said they wanted to continue but were written out of the show.

JeanGreyForever wrote:I actually didn't mind Wish Verse Robin as much as I thought. I guess I could put up with him if I had to but I really rather not.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. Sean twitted this before deleting it, implying he won't be returning for season 7. Also, an insider, who's been right before about many OUAT-related stuff, confirmed the actor won't be returning.

Disney's Divinity wrote:

JeanGreyForever wrote: Has it been confirmed that Rebecca Mader won't be returning? I haven't seen anything on her yet.

Just confirmed, unfortunately. I don't care about the Charmings, Henry, and Belle going, just Zelena and Emma. I would've rather they got rid of Rumpel and kept Zelena (and I imagine Mader would cost less money than Carlyle). I could see more story being done with Regina, and of course she and Hook are the fan favorites, but Rumpel has long since been played out. Who even watches for him anymore? Where can he go except further down the hole?

(I'm not bashing the actor, because Carlyle does the best he can do. The character has just been done for me since the end of 5A.)

Awww I was looking forward to seeing her the most. It's a pity that she wasn't allowed to continue even though she wanted to. I hope they bring her back occasionally though for an episode or maybe even an episode arc. In an interview with the showrunners after Zelena lost her powers, they said they planned to explore next season how Zelena adapts without them. We'll see if that occurs or not. I agree that while I like Rumple, his story is basically over and I could live without him. I'm tired of seeing him switch sides and die and resurrect and lose his powers and gain them back. It's an endless cycle which will be alleviated a little without Belle by his side but still.

Sotiris wrote:

JeanGreyForever wrote:I actually didn't mind Wish Verse Robin as much as I thought. I guess I could put up with him if I had to but I really rather not.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. Sean twitted this before deleting it, implying he won't be returning for season 7. Also, an insider, who's been right before about many OUAT-related stuff, confirmed the actor won't be returning.

Glad to hear that! May have lost Zelena but at least Robin won't be coming to fill in her space.

I just want the show to end. Stories can't go on forever they have to end.

bradhig wrote:I just want the show to end. Stories can't go on forever they have to end.

That's where I was after season two, defiantly three. I stopped watching early is season four. Based on the news that Jennifer Morrison is leaving the show, I'd say it's time to finally end it.

I definitely wouldn't have wanted the show to end in season 4. I would've been fine with 6 being the last because it was the first year I was bored by (although I blame a lot of executive decisions for how badly it played out), but I don't mind it staying on the air in reboot form with Regina and Hook. *shrug* Something to watch. Seems like all of the shows I've watched over the years are gone and nothing good's come to replace them. I'd been hoping OUAT would go 7 seasons ever since Downton Abbey ended.

The current state of TV only reminds me what a shame it is that Ugly Betty only got 4 seasons (much less that ABC openly tried to kill it its last season--similar to what I've read they did to Murder, She Wrote in its final season). It deserved at least 2 more years, imo. Funny how shows that are making much less than Desperate Housewives was when it left the air are now considered "hits." I miss a world where shows like House, DH, UB, and LOST all came out within a two-year span.

I wish I was into the TGIT's lineup like others are apparently. I've watched all three shows occasionally (off-and-on). The only one I enjoyed was Scandal in its first 2 seasons--although it's been a complete trainwreck for years now. I'm hoping the new show by Marc Cherry involving Reba McEntire will be decent, although I'm not optimistic. I've always been a Reba fan and thought she was a good actress on her family show, but since her face stopped moving the past few years, I'm not sure a new show from her would work or not. (But I'm being serious.)

I enjoyed the finale for the most part although I think it would have worked better as a series finale, because in a way, it sort of was considering that most of the cast won't be back next year. I loved all the throwbacks to Season 1 since that was the best season imo from this whole show. The Black Fairy had some great moments this episode but her death seemed sort of anticlimatic to me. The Final Battle felt the same way and it was weird how in Emma's vision, they made a big deal out of Regina not being there, yet she was there alongside Zelena. I loved seeing the Evil Queen again and I'm so glad they brought her back to life at the end. I was even more pleased that we never had to see Robin onscreen and although I have never shipped Outlaw Queen, I actually did like the resolution to their story with his arrow proposal. It also fixed the "plothole" of the Evil Queen living in a realm where everyone is calling for her death, including Rumplestiltskin.

I was surprised that there wasn't any major deaths this episode though. I expected David to die from the beanstalk falling especially with the flashbacks back to season 1 which I thought would set up poignant parallels, but I guess OUAT was never planning on going that way. Josh and Ginny kept stating in interviews that not everyone would like the finale so I assumed someone was going to die. I'm not sure how a kiss revived him anyway although if I was Snow, I would have probably gone with a kiss as well. Emma's "death" didn't make much sense to me either honestly. I'm not sure how her sacrifice of sorts was sort of a third way because technically one light would have been snuffed out (Emma) and the other light (Gideon) would have become corrupted. I didn't get how Rumple couldn't call off the attack either but I guess OUAT has never been consistent with their magic rules so whatever.

I liked the return of the hatter's hat (has he even been referenced outside of that Season 1 episode) along with the brief looks at all the different realms at the end like Arendelle, Neverland, Wonderland, and Agrabah although Oz was strangely missing. This episode(s) made it seem like Arendelle was its own world even though Season 4 clearly established it as a neighboring kingdom of the Enchanted Forest. I still can't remember if Agrabah is in the same world or not though so more OUAT type logic. At least we got to see Aladdin and Jasmine again in their incredibly minor roles. I thought for a moment we would see Anna and Elsa in Arendelle and other characters in their respective worlds, but I guess the animals and CGI characters were more manageable.

Belle was sidelined as usual so I'm not even sure why they pretend to give her a plot anymore. The whole twisted ankle thing was so weird but I guess they wanted Rumple alone so he could make the right choice by himself, something I wasn't expecting. I thought he was going to let Emma die to set up the next season so I was quite impressed that he actually did the right thing. Was expecting Emma to die as well, but I guess not and I'm happy about that. Her little speech during the battle was weird and Snow's at the end was clearly to set up the departures for most of the main characters.

Not sure how I feel about adult Henry and his daughter yet. I think it's safe to say that Violet is the mother since the OUAT writers confirmed that next season will involve Henry in a grand love story in the vein of Snow and David. Overall, I liked how all the characters got their own happy endings and I'll certainly miss them all next season. Hopefully the departed cast will still return occasionally like Jennifer will as Emma for the season premiere (if that is in fact happening, unless they're saving her 1 episode for later on).

Yes, I consider it a series finale. Season 7 will be sort of like a spin-off to me.

I thought it was decent and did the best it could have to wrap a bow on everything. I thought Regina got the weakest ending of the characters (just the word "Queen" put on her office?). I loved Charming and Hook finally hashing out their issues. Seeing Emma and Henry together in Storybrooke was like old times. Rumpel fighting the temptation of having it all was as good as a send-off as they could've managed for that character.

I'm sad knowing that there will be no more Emma-opening-herself-up scenes or Zelena humor or Captain Swan romance or witchy sister squabblings or overdramatic villains. It wasn't a perfect series by any means, but I've enjoyed it (some arcs more than others).

My final rankings:

1. S1
2. 3A
3. 3B
4. 4A
5. 5B
6. 5A
7. 2A (2.01 to "The Miller's Daughter")
8. S6
9. 4B (almost put it above S6)
10. 2B (post-"TMD")

I was a little disappointed by the finale. It was OK but I guess I was expecting better writing than usual considering this was to be in many ways the series finale.

• I liked that Emma forgot everything after Henry got poisoned in season 1 but are we supposed to believe that 6 seasons worth of plot just happened in two years? How do they explain Henry's age then?

• The constant parallels to the first season were a bit much. Some of them were used well (like Fiona as the mayor and Henry's adoptive mom) while others felt unnecessary and shoehorned (like the Snow kissing Charming after he fell from the Beanstalk).

• The realms' existence hinging on the Savior believing in storybook characters didn't make much sense. Emma didn't believe in them for most of the first season and they didn't disappear. One could argue that it's the curse that tied the two together but that wasn't really acknowledged in the show.

•I'm glad they acknowledged that the Evil Queen couldn't get a fresh start in the Wish realm since she's wanted for the murder of the Charmings there.

• at the badly photoshopped Belle-travelling-the-world photos.

• I liked that Fiona's plan was to gain power unrestricted by the laws of magic. It was a nice (perhaps unintentional) nod to Jafar's plan to change the laws of magic in OUAT in Wonderland.

• Fiona's demise was rather anticlimactic. I was expecting a longer and more impressive final battle with Fiona at its center rather than Gideon trying to kill Emma again.

• Belle twisting her ankle and Rumple just leaving her there was odd. Wasn't he still The Dark One? Couldn't he have healed her instantly? I understand they needed him to make the right decision by himself but they could have found a better way to do that.

• It was odd that Robin of Locklsey didn't make an appearance and we just saw an arrow. It made the proposal seem impersonal.

• The montage with the realms re-appearing looked kinda sad with no human characters shown. It would have been a great opportunity to bring back some of the fairy tale characters the show featured throughout the years. Could they really not get any them to appear? Did they even bother to try?

• at The Last Supper ending. We get it: Emma is Jesus. No need to hit us over the head with it.

• Concerning adult Henry and his daughter, I just hope that despite the parallel to the pilot, the storyline will be more than just a rehash of the first season.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Emma's "death" didn't make much sense to me either honestly. I'm not sure how her sacrifice of sorts was sort of a third way because technically one light would have been snuffed out (Emma) and the other light (Gideon) would have become corrupted. I didn't get how Rumple couldn't call off the attack either but I guess OUAT has never been consistent with their magic rules so whatever.

I agree, that was confusing. Maybe because Gideon had no agency or control over his actions, he wouldn't have become corrupted by killing Emma. So, the whole thing was more of a test for Emma than anything else. As for Rumple not being able to call off the attack, wasn't it because Fiona put a spell on the heart so no one else could control Gideon with it?

JeanGreyForever wrote:This episode(s) made it seem like Arendelle was its own world even though Season 4 clearly established it as a neighboring kingdom of the Enchanted Forest. I still can't remember if Agrabah is in the same world or not though so more OUAT type logic.

I was annoyed by that continuity error too.

JeanGreyForever wrote:I think it's safe to say that Violet is the mother since the OUAT writers confirmed that next season will involve Henry in a grand love story in the vein of Snow and David.

The showrunners confirmed that Lucy's mother (and Henry's wife) is not Violet.

No more seasons just end it already. No spinoffs either and send the charmings back to their kingdom. This is Hollywood's freaking problem just keep milking everything that works, make reboots, and don't create anything new.

Apparently the show’s been moved to Friday’s next year. Even though I thought S7 would assuredly be the last, Quantico just got renewed with much worse ratings….

at The Last Supper ending. We get it: Emma is Jesus. No need to hit us over the head with it.

that was so cheesy!


It really felt like a series finale to me. Im actually curious what they are gonna do in season 7 with adult Henry and her daughter. I kinda hope the stay out of Storybrook though, Im sick of Storybrook.

plus there are still a few fairytale/folklore characters left they haven't done yet they can use:
Princess and the Frog/Tiana/Naveen/Facilier
Puss in Boots(Id love to see him as a human version in the real world but I dont know if theyd want to use a character so associated with Dreamworks)
Pied Piper(did they ever use him? I cant remember)
Tarzan/Jane(dont know if they can use them either due to rights issues)
Emperor from Emperor's New Clothes(New Groove)
Prince and the Pauper
Moana

also maybe bring back some characters that were completely wasted like Rapunzel and Herc and Meg. And of course I wouldnt mind seeing August again.

Sotiris wrote:

JeanGreyForever wrote:I think it's safe to say that Violet is the mother since the OUAT writers confirmed that next season will involve Henry in a grand love story in the vein of Snow and David.

The showrunners confirmed that Lucy's mother (and Hentry's wife) is not Violet.

Thanks for confirming. It's a bit weird that they didn't want to stick with Violet considering that they built her up all of last season. I know they claimed that it's not realistic for anyone to stick with their childhood sweetheart, but I feel that really doesn't work as an explanation in a show where love-at-first-sight couples exist who keep on finding each other over and over. I guess Violet didn't really serve the storyline they had planned.

Disney's Divinity wrote:Apparently the show’s been moved to Friday’s next year. Even though I thought S7 would assuredly be the last, Quantico just got renewed with much worse ratings….

Quantico only got renewed for a shorter season though and that's mainly because despite the abysmal ratings, the show has huge value internationally. I'm not a fan of the Friday time for this (or Agents of SHIELD) either. That's generally where networks send their shows to die.

unprincess wrote: plus there are still a few fairytale/folklore characters left they haven't done yet they can use:
Pied Piper(did they ever use him? I cant remember)
Tarzan/Jane(dont know if they can use them either due to rights issues)

The Pied Piper doubled as Peter Pan in season 3 in the episode where he goes after Bae. Disney no longer has the rights to Tarzan which is also why they never acknowledge the film or character anymore. I'm assuming that means OUAT doesn't have the rights either. I know in Season 1, they didn't have the rights to Peter Pan or Robin Hood though, so maybe it doesn't work that way.