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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:11 pm
by BK
Mason_Ireton wrote:Yes the picture/sound is fully restored, all the Masterpiece bonuses return from I'm Odd (deleted song) to the art gallery.
the bonuses are also closed caption

Well does it make business sense for Disney to restore a movie without releasing the HD counterpart?
Definitely seems like they have something up their sleeve.
Although, I never got the old one, but if UK isn't getting it then I'll just wait for the eventual BR release, which could even be this year or next.
Also, you said the reflection is 40mins long? If they didn't drop anything they sure must have had a LOT of space left over in the old Masterpiece version to accommodate for nearly 50 minutes more of bonus video and the increased size of a better transfer.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:19 pm
by Barbossa
I'm probably not buying, but reyquila probably will.
Stickin' with my Masterpiece Edition.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:46 pm
by Disneykid
Mason_Ireton wrote:Relfections on Alice: a semi 40 min ( I believe) behind the scenes of the inspirations for Alice's movie career (startin with the 1903 verison, they dip alil bit into the castin but just for Kathyrn Beaumont and Ed Wynn (best Mad Hatter) they also discuss Mary Blair's concept arts too (a real treat) along with showin David Hall's orignal story treatment (complete with artwork)
Are you serious? I figured it'd be a brisk little 15-20 minute featurette, but instead it's the standard length of the Platinum documentaries! I was planning on buying this, anyway (Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz are the only two films I'd buy over and over again), but now that I know this is a substantial documentary, there's no doubt about it; I'm nabbing this. So when this film comes to BD (next year, hopefully?), the only new feature they need to add is a commentary track/cine-explore. The rest of the features can be ported over from this DVD and the laserdisc.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:58 pm
by BK
Disneykid wrote:Mason_Ireton wrote:Relfections on Alice: a semi 40 min ( I believe) behind the scenes of the inspirations for Alice's movie career (startin with the 1903 verison, they dip alil bit into the castin but just for Kathyrn Beaumont and Ed Wynn (best Mad Hatter) they also discuss Mary Blair's concept arts too (a real treat) along with showin David Hall's orignal story treatment (complete with artwork)
Are you serious? I figured it'd be a brisk little 15-20 minute featurette, but instead it's the standard length of the Platinum documentaries! I was planning on buying this, anyway (Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz are the only two films I'd buy over and over again), but now that I know this is a substantial documentary, there's no doubt about it; I'm nabbing this. So when this film comes to BD (next year, hopefully?), the only new feature they need to add is a commentary track/cine-explore. The rest of the features can be ported over from this DVD and the laserdisc.
Well once you get be sure to give us the complete review.
You know, the in-depth, play-by-play did they really retain all the old features?
And of course with your discerning eye, how much better is the transfer than the Masterpiece?
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:04 pm
by Mason_Ireton
ok I rewatched Reflection On Alice, so please don't kill me
The actual run time is 30 mins....brief but fairly worth watching.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:06 pm
by Old Fish Tale
Is the restoration the same?
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:09 pm
by Mason_Ireton
It's Disney we're talkin here...course it's been restored along with the soundtrack. Disney surprisingly has the best track record of takin care of their films/shorts/featurettes.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:18 pm
by pick
Please, if possible, post some pics of the package... I ordered mine but I live in Brazil, so I won't receive it for at least 2 weeks...
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:19 pm
by Disneykid
Mason_Ireton wrote:ok I rewatched Reflection On Alice, so please to kill me
The actual run time is 30 mins....brief but fairly worth watching.
I'm still perfectly okay with that. Like I said, I was expecting this to be 20 minutes max, though realistically I figured it'd fall more towards 15 minutes. I'm glad to see it run a good half hour since I consider anything 30 minutes or more a documentary, not just a featurette.
I'm pretty sure disc two of this set is the same one from the Masterpiece Edition re-pressed. Have the disc one menus changed, though? The ones on the ME all take place within the rabbit hole.
Thanks!
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:21 pm
by Mason_Ireton
I still find it hard to watch...especialy after watch Tim Burton's Alice, but as some said, "You can't underestimate the classics"
The menus on both disc is the exact same menus from the Masterpiece, the only thin that's new is the sneek peak menu for the previews. The sneak preview menu is set in Tweedle Dee/Dum forest.
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:09 pm
by Aqua
How difficult is it for Disney to port all the features from the LD to DVD? I know this is often repeated but....
******* soccer moms!
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:19 pm
by disneyboy20022
It should probably also be said....the discs art on the 2 discs is lovely as usual on their Disney DVDs (meaning GREY GREY GREY BLAND NOTHING)
Havn't got to watch it yet....is that song of the south segment on the old Masterpiece Edition? Maybe someone could do a review.....their own review since Apparently Disney won't send it to UD or any other review sites for some idiotic blu rayson...

I like Blu Ray.....but honestly Disney send a review copy to your sources even when there are no blu ray of it out....
But who wants to bet StarStruck (which is getting a DVD only release too) will be flooded with those reviews....along with Handy Manny that we all are dying to know what is it that Handy Manny does next

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:51 pm
by Matt
Mason_Ireton wrote:It's Disney we're talkin here...course it's been restored along with the soundtrack. Disney surprisingly has the best track record of takin care of their films/shorts/featurettes.
It's different from the Master piece release?
I do not like this film that much to double dip on this again.
Now if it was Beauty and the Beast, I'd buy it over 100 times lol.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:28 am
by PeterPanfan
Ugh. Alice in Wonderland is one of my favorite Disney movies, but I already have the Masterpiece Edition, and honestly, this release doesn't look to add much.
They should have just released the Blu-Ray now. =/
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:35 am
by SWillie!
What a strange release. Not much new to add, and I've barely seen ANY advertising for it at all! It's been so quiet... like Disney just kind of snuck it back on the shelves to cash in on the Alice craze.
I was at Target yesterday and I had to search for it... They had... wait for it... 14 slot things on the end of the aisle with new releases FULL of Alvin and the Chipmunks... and then at the verrrrry bottom in the corner they had one spot for Alice.
Ugh.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:29 pm
by gardener14
Someone mentioned this as being a quiet release, but I've continued to see many commercials this past week. I think it's getting quite a bit of publicity which is nice to see....but it really should have been on dvd and Blu-ray.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:12 pm
by ajmrowland
So is this a new restoration that's on the disc, or is it old transfer recycled from the ME?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:37 pm
by gardener14
SWillie! wrote:I was at Target yesterday and I had to search for it... They had... wait for it... 14 slot things on the end of the aisle with new releases FULL of Alvin and the Chipmunks... and then at the verrrrry bottom in the corner they had one spot for Alice.
Ugh.
That's so typical of Target in my experience. Whenever I go there for a new Disney title on the day of release, they so often don't have it or they're almost out. Today, Walmart had six rows of Alice In Wonderland with 12-14 copies in each row. I've almost given up on expecting Target to have what they advertise...Walmart and Best Buy do a much better job of stocking new releases.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:05 pm
by gardener14
I just checked out the new Unanniversary Edition of Alice and compared it to the Masterpiece Edition to see what is different. Firstly, the new edition includes only gray discs while the previous edition featured attractive disc art.
The new edition gains a deleted scene "Pig and Pepper" hosted by Ron Clements and John Musker (3m 11s) and the new documentary "Reflections of Alice" (13m 24s). Pig and Pepper uses black and white sketches from a 1939 idea for Alice. Someone else said that Reflections of Alice is 30 minutes long, but it is not. It's a very nice piece, however as is the deleted scene. Missing from the new edition are two sing-a-long songs, The Unbirthday Song and All In the Golden Afternoon.
The second disc of the Unanversary Edition is identical in content to the Masterpiece Edition with a few very minor exceptions. The menu is placed on one page instead of two pages, and the Alice Comedy (1923) and the trailers (1951 and 1974) are not identified by year on the new edition. Those three dates are very minor pieces of information, but they are nice to know to make those extras more meaningful.
Obviously, Sneak Peaks are different on each edition. The Masterpiece Edition included Home On the Range, Lion King 1 1/2, Brother Bear, Mary Poppins, and Mulan 2. The Unanniversary Edition includes Genuine Treasure: Tinker Bell, Disney Movie Rewards, Old Dogs, My Friend Tigger and Pooh Super Duper Super Sleuths, James and the Giant Peach, The Black Cauldron, Tinker Bell and the Great Fairy Rescue, Disney Parks, Blu-ray, and Beauty and the Beast Diamond Edition.
One more note that is just my opinion...the Masterpiece Edition displayed lovely cover art with a contemplative looking Alice while the Unanniversary Edition sports a very busy cover with many more characters and a jolly looking Alice. I greatly prefer the previous cover art over this one, and I miss the disc art. I do like the new bonus features, however.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:09 pm
by Old Fish Tale
ajmrowland wrote:So is this a new restoration that's on the disc, or is it old transfer recycled from the ME?
I want to know that too!