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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:38 am
by SWillie!
Heil Donald Duck wrote:I don't want to sound nasty but I hope this ends up as material for the book Disney that never was: volume II
It's way to far into production for that by now. They're already animating a lot of it. But how come? You didn't like the original Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh? Hell, at least Disney's doing SOMETHING hand-drawn.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:49 am
by Heil Donald Duck
SWillie! wrote:
Heil Donald Duck wrote:I don't want to sound nasty but I hope this ends up as material for the book Disney that never was: volume II
It's way to far into production for that by now. They're already animating a lot of it. But how come? You didn't like the original Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh? Hell, at least Disney's doing SOMETHING hand-drawn.
The truth is i have never liked Winnie the Pooh. That made me wrote that but I applause Disney for trying to gets it Hand-drawn animation going.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:51 am
by disneyboy20022
Heil Donald Duck wrote:
SWillie! wrote: It's way to far into production for that by now. They're already animating a lot of it. But how come? You didn't like the original Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh? Hell, at least Disney's doing SOMETHING hand-drawn.
The truth is i have never liked Winnie the Pooh. That made me wrote that but I applause Disney for trying to gets it Hand-drawn animation going.

I like Winnie the Pooh.....now how Disney has gone about marketing the Pooh Franchise over the past decade....that's what I don't like because they have made him too fluffy.....I mean seriously....I won't call over the phone in a crowded area to fandango to reserve tickets to see Winnie the Pooh....not because I don't like Pooh....just his Reputation has been reduced to the toddler age only....Similair to how they have been doing the fab 5 Mickey and the gang :roll:

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:26 am
by SWillie!
Heil Donald Duck wrote:
SWillie! wrote: It's way to far into production for that by now. They're already animating a lot of it. But how come? You didn't like the original Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh? Hell, at least Disney's doing SOMETHING hand-drawn.
The truth is i have never liked Winnie the Pooh. That made me wrote that but I applause Disney for trying to gets it Hand-drawn animation going.
I've always loved the original Pooh stories. The characters were so entertaining to me. The way they've overdone him in the past ten years, disneyboy said, is also what I don't like. But if they can deliver something that really is in line with the original, like they promised, then I'm all for it. To each his own, though :)

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:50 pm
by Disney's Divinity
This may sound a bit like blasphemy to some, but: I've always really loved Pooh and friends, but I grew up on the TV series, A Tigger Movie, Pooh's Grand Adventure, etc. I didn't even know I hadn't seen the first film (Many Adventures...) until 2 or 3 years ago. And, when I finally did see it, I didn't like it very much. Rabbit, Tigger, and Pooh were all so annoying. So, really, I've liked the sequels better than the original, I guess...? :? :o :P

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:08 pm
by SWillie!
Disney's Divinity wrote:This may sound a bit like blasphemy to some, but: I've always really loved Pooh and friends, but I grew up on the TV series, A Tigger Movie, Pooh's Grand Adventure, etc. I didn't even know I hadn't seen the first film (Many Adventures...) until 2 or 3 years ago. And, when I finally did see it, I didn't like it very much. Rabbit, Tigger, and Pooh were all so annoying. So, really, I've liked the sequels better than the original, I guess...? :? :o :P
I guess that's just a case of "it's what you grow up with." I watched the original movie a thousand times as a kid. Obviously, as a kid, I didn't know the difference between the original and the sequels, but just the fact that I watched it so many times that we had to replace the video of it... I guess it's just worked it's way into my little heart hahaha :P

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:34 pm
by SWillie!
Disney Animation's website has been updated. There's nothing new, really, but there is now a page for "Tangled" and "Winnie the Pooh" There's an actual logo for Pooh, so I'm thinking maybe that's what they're calling it?? Simply, "Winnie the Pooh"... I'm not sure how I feel about that. Obviously, that could very well change.

http://www.disneyanimation.com

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:36 am
by singerguy04
I don't like the title either. I think it's mostly because so many people just refer "The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" as just "Winnie the Pooh". I feel like a lot of people wont understand that this is actually a new film. I guess I shouldn't complain though, or else we'll end up with the title being "Pooh" or "Bear" or "Winnie the Pooh 2" :roll:

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:27 am
by kbehm29
I'm so glad to see that the website has been updated. I was getting concerned.

I am trying to be excited about the upcoming projects, but Tangled's name-change has really frustrated me - it's stupid. I know I shouldn't judge a movie by it's title, but Rapunzel is SO much better. I may just buy this on Blu-ray.

I like Winnie-the-Pooh, and for sure will be there in theaters to see that one.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:19 pm
by Margos
Maybe the "shorthand" name for the original will eventually change to "Many Adventures." It would definitely help to differentiate the films. Really, it won't be the first time since we've seen canon sequels with very similar names. They'll probably be called the "Winnie the Poohs" the way we have the "Fantasias."

lots of references for Pooh

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:15 pm
by kurtadisneyite
Any new Disney Pooh movie has the advantage of plenty of archival material for the animators to refer to. If JL and the production managers give the animators a decent amount of time to work on it, the new Pooh flick could be the full return of 2D to Disney USA.

Perhaps Disney corporate will get so enraptured by Avatar and the current 3D hype that they made Pooh presentable in 3D (the "look" would be similar to a Viewmaster using cutout cels positioned various depths from the camera). The software used is fully capable of that without detracting from animation or look of the movie (trying to convert 2D to 3D is a whole 'nother thing).

However, it's interesting that JL is allowing Pooh to be done "again" (in effect, a sequel) after stopping all the sequels for the Princess franchise.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:17 am
by yukitora
It wasn't the productions of sequals John didn't like (heck look at all these pixar sequals coming out soon), its the cheaply produced low quality animated features that happened to be sequels.

Having said that I enjoyed Cinderella III a heck lot more than Up, WALL-E and Ratatouille.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:30 am
by PatrickvD
yukitora wrote:Having said that I enjoyed Cinderella III a heck lot more than Up, WALL-E and Ratatouille.
:shifty:

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:50 am
by Margos
While I disagree with Yukitora's opinion.... he's absolutely right. A sequel can be a wonderful thing if done with all the love and care that the original was. Toy Story 2, in fact, was better (IMO) than the original. Fantasia 2000 was, in some parts, just as good. John Lasseter realizes that. He's not anti-sequel, just anti-crap.

Re: lots of references for Pooh

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:27 am
by Prince Edward
kurtadisneyite wrote:Any new Disney Pooh movie has the advantage of plenty of archival material for the animators to refer to. If JL and the production managers give the animators a decent amount of time to work on it, the new Pooh flick could be the full return of 2D to Disney USA.

Perhaps Disney corporate will get so enraptured by Avatar and the current 3D hype that they made Pooh presentable in 3D (the "look" would be similar to a Viewmaster using cutout cels positioned various depths from the camera). The software used is fully capable of that without detracting from animation or look of the movie (trying to convert 2D to 3D is a whole 'nother thing).

However, it's interesting that JL is allowing Pooh to be done "again" (in effect, a sequel) after stopping all the sequels for the Princess franchise.
I'd wish Disney had not released all their crappy direct to video sequels. Then they could have made amazing sequels fit for theaters to modern films like Aladdin, Hercules etc. Movies that would have been just as great as all the other animated classics, a la what Pixar have done and is doing (Toy Story 2, Cars 2, Toy Story 3 etc).

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:22 am
by KubrickFan
Hmm, people are complaining about the name change of 'Rapunzel' into 'Tangled', because it's about a girl named Rapunzel. But calling a 'Winnie the Pooh' movie, 'Winnie the Pooh' is suddenly uninspired?

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:46 am
by blackcauldron85
KubrickFan wrote:Hmm, people are complaining about the name change of 'Rapunzel' into 'Tangled', because it's about a girl named Rapunzel. But calling a 'Winnie the Pooh' movie, 'Winnie the Pooh' is suddenly uninspired?
Maybe because Rapunzel is already a well-known fairy tale that Disney hasn't covered yet; some think that there's no reason to change the title- it is the story of Rapunzel (but with the Disney twist). Disney already has The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, so maybe they think that it should be called The Further Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, or More Tales of Winnie the Pooh, or something coming before Winnie the Pooh in the title.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:33 pm
by KubrickFan
blackcauldron85 wrote:
KubrickFan wrote:Hmm, people are complaining about the name change of 'Rapunzel' into 'Tangled', because it's about a girl named Rapunzel. But calling a 'Winnie the Pooh' movie, 'Winnie the Pooh' is suddenly uninspired?
Maybe because Rapunzel is already a well-known fairy tale that Disney hasn't covered yet; some think that there's no reason to change the title- it is the story of Rapunzel (but with the Disney twist). Disney already has The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, so maybe they think that it should be called The Further Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, or More Tales of Winnie the Pooh, or something coming before Winnie the Pooh in the title.
Again, why? There's, I believe, no indication that the movie will use the episodic format of the Classic movie. Plus, there hasn't been a movie, short or series that used it, all of them added some words to it. This will be plain 'Winnie the Pooh'.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:55 pm
by UmbrellaFish
KubrickFan wrote: Again, why? There's, I believe, no indication that the movie will use the episodic format of the Classic movie. Plus, there hasn't been a movie, short or series that used it, all of them added some words to it. This will be plain 'Winnie the Pooh'.
Actually, the earliest reports we got regarding this film did indicate that the film would be a string of episodes, similar to the original film, and I don't believe there's been any change since regarding that.

Anyway, "Winnie the Pooh" might just be the developmental title. I wouldn't get too wound up about this just yet.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:54 pm
by Neal
Honestly, I like the simplicity. In my opinion, this should be the last 2D Pooh film. (and no more CGI or puppet Pooh films, either!)

Pooh has become the most prolific Disney character next to Mickey. Between the number of TV shows, films, and books - he is all over the place.

Now that DTV sequels, etc. are done - and they are still releasing film cappers to "My Friends Tigger..." - I think it's time Pooh take a break. This film should be classic and memorable, and then they should take a while off.

Thus, merely calling it "Winnie the Pooh" is appropriately simple - they shouldn't make this overwrought like "A Very Merry Pooh Year" or "Piglet's Big Movie" - it should be short and sweet.