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Thanks for Monty's whole story (well, I'm sure it's not everything) and your dreams, which are quote ambitious which is a great thing. Did you mena you wanted all the graphic novels to be holiday based ,or just some for TV specials? Because, even though it's wholly different from what your comics are like, graphic novels always make me think epic story, so...it would be cool if you came up with something like Monty's on a quest to get all his fur ( ) or everyone's landed in the hotel for mysterious reasons... I think comics should always be at least heading somewhere, in some direction. Growth and moving forward (or backward!)

When you said the comic set-up was similar to a Mystery Science or Horror Host type show, did you mean it's what all the characters usually do that at the hotel (host movies) and your comic is whenever they're not doing that...? And be careful with that Scarecrow costume, it may be some kind of infringement if you use it on a show and didn't make it yourself.

I suspect your card game may be based on fairy tales, as they are public domain. I know you have a penchant for the grim, creature-filled, beautiful-women-troubling aspects. Did you ever see the 10th Kingdom? There's this wolf character and some events around him I think you would have liked a lot. Glad to hear people like the game your working on!

I took a look at a little more art. You drew the host of Deal or No Deal well! Is it true, that you can "beat the system" by just waiting till there's a large amount left? And I don't know if I quite got the joke, is it that he blows it all on a date when he should be using the money, which he would probably have won, on a girl? Also saw one of Wagner, the father son thing looks cute, I thought the rotting pumpkin pie joke was funny.

And I saw you had talked to a local producer/director about the short films! That still going on?

I was going to say I thoight the collages should be put in your first post (just edit it) so you can keep adding to them and the people on this Disney board will first see work that more pertains to their interest when they come in here. You could add other signifigant Disney works as well, adn what you feel are your best, Disney or non.

I looked at all the collages, and I realized it's not so much the characters themselves I think need fixing, but more that they're all squeezed in so they're a little out of shape. I'm sorry, that's just my honest opinion. But It's undeniable how cool, beautiful, and creative they all are. You have such great ideas, from grandmother willow watching over all of them like nature, Ursual's eels and tentacles forming Ariel's cove hole (that sounds pervy!), and Kuzko being held up by the people (though I would have liked the people who make the collage holding him themselves, maybe even kind of bent under the prssure, but that would involve seriously changing their poses you had to base them off of). The Three Caballeros is really pretty, what great, festive colors! Can't wait to see Melody Time, and I like how the woodpecker's coloring it! That means you actually could leave some wait as uncolored parts, right? And I see the skaters in loev are from that one.

I also wanted to say the textures and way of doing the art is great, like grandmother willow looks like real bark and the candle holding girls in Caballeros are done softly. I'm guessing this was all trying to match the style these characters were done in, which is great rather than making them all hard lines.

Disney Duster wrote:Thanks for Monty's whole story (well, I'm sure it's not everything) and your dreams, which are quote ambitious which is a great thing. Did you mena you wanted all the graphic novels to be holiday based ,or just some for TV specials? Because, even though it's wholly different from what your comics are like, graphic novels always make me think epic story, so...it would be cool if you came up with something like Monty's on a quest to get all his fur ( ) or everyone's landed in the hotel for mysterious reasons... I think comics should always be at least heading somewhere, in some direction. Growth and moving forward (or backward!)

Ha, I assure you, Monty has all his fur. Don't make too much about it being light around his eyes. That's just the look of the werewolves in his world. Makes it easier to see. As for the graphic novels, they would have plots (but they don't all have to be epic, especially not comedic ones), and how many of them are holiday related would depend on how many I'd get to make. I don't really feel humorous comic strips need to go in any direction, look at Garfield or Peanuts, or most others. Of course, this happens naturally on a small level anyway. Characters get and lose jobs, form relationships, reveal more and more about themselves. However, I of course would include some sort of plot if I ever got around to doing a graphic novel.

Disney Duster wrote: When you said the comic set-up was similar to a Mystery Science or Horror Host type show, did you mean it's what all the characters usually do that at the hotel (host movies) and your comic is whenever they're not doing that...? And be careful with that Scarecrow costume, it may be some kind of infringement if you use it on a show and didn't make it yourself.

No, the Scarecrow costume is mainly homemade. Don't know if the facial make-up and applications would qualify though, but we'd only use that one for as long as we're doing cheap net-stuff ourselves, ha. Folks don't usually sue for that since you're really not making any money off it. I mean, they usually give you a warning first at least. Anyway, the show would be more like Elvira's old show or something I guess, because the characters wouldn't be sitting there in silhouette mocking the films. It'd be more like the old fashioned type horror hosting shows (actually, there are a lot of revivals like that on the net now) where the lead character introduces the film and talks about it during commercial lead-ins and outs, but the setup and other characters are there to provide humor in those lead-ins and outs also through doing little comedy bits with their own plot for each episode (like MST3K in that regard). Of course, Monty would be the one watching/hosting the films. I wouldn't call all these various ideas dreams, by the way, just ideas. All I'd call a dream is making something out of the Moonlight Motel that becomes popular and turns a profit too, ha.

Disney Duster wrote: I suspect your card game may be based on fairy tales, as they are public domain. I know you have a penchant for the grim, creature-filled, beautiful-women-troubling aspects. Did you ever see the 10th Kingdom? There's this wolf character and some events around him I think you would have liked a lot. Glad to hear people like the game your working on!

I haven't seen 10th Kingdom, actually. People often recommend it to me and I'll buy it someday, but haven't had the chance to see it yet. They used to run it a lot, but not lately, and it was always so hard to catch something that long in its entirety without planning ahead. I only ever got to see a few of those Hallmark miniseries, and some were awful (like Noah's Ark), but some looked/were pretty cool.

Disney Duster wrote: I took a look at a little more art. You drew the host of Deal or No Deal well! Is it true, that you can "beat the system" by just waiting till there's a large amount left? And I don't know if I quite got the joke, is it that he blows it all on a date when he should be using the money, which he would probably have won, on a girl? Also saw one of Wagner, the father son thing looks cute, I thought the rotting pumpkin pie joke was funny.

Yes, you got the joke. That's it. It's actually one of the very first Moonlight Motels I ever did. In general, the humor has gotten better. There are always a few I feel could have been better in retrospect. But then, not everyone gets every style of humor. A lot of people don't get mine. Then again, there are a lot of strips in the Sunday comics I don't get either. Glad you liked the Wagner. Often, his strips were about trying to pick up girls and stuff (one in particular), and being oblivious to the fact that he was "different" and that sort of thing. Like I said, Monty sort of combines Wagner and Sweet Life, but developed a lot of its own stuff too. I think that pumpkin one was the best Wagner I did, and it's also the last one I did, and the only hand-drawn one I did. I first did it all digitally, like I do Monty still, but I had a much crappier program with Wagner, so it didn't look too good at all. The hand-drawn look was going to be the new look, but I had to focus on other stuff and stop doing the strip. Now that I do Moonlight Motel, I don't feel a need/desire to go back to Wagner, though I will always have feelings for the strip. Since it is a component of Moonlight Motel, I don't feel like I've stopped it entirely. That's how I feel about Sweet Life too. I do have another strip though which I need to get back to working on. It's my "cute" strip. It's called Cloud K-9, and is very "Sunday Comics" type strip. Dogs and Cats on clouds in Heaven, ha.

Oh yeah, as for the little werewolf in the Wagner strips, that was his nephew, Waldo.

Disney Duster wrote: And I saw you had talked to a local producer/director about the short films! That still going on?

Well, with independent film, sometimes producers don't do as much producing as you need. I still would have to have come up with a lot of props and stuff, which was running into a lot of money, and I'm still working on getting a decent income going, so I basically had to put all that on hold. Plus, the guy I was talking was originally going to direct, but he decided he'd rather I direct and he produce, which almost makes me think I should just do it all on my own anyway. However, I have no skill at aquiring locations and equipment, and distribution, and he seemed willing to handle that angle. So, when I have costumes and props ready, and a script for a short film, I will probably try to contact him and see if he is still interested. However, we have lost contact for the time being. He was in a bit of a rush to get going, and I didn't want to sacrifice a few certain things to get something made fast. Since this is based on my comic strip, there are some things that have to remain true. One thing he suggested to get the ball rolling was to just use a halloween werewolf mask. I didn't care for that idea, and there are already people on YouTube doing that. It looks crappy, ha.

Disney Duster wrote: I was going to say I thoight the collages should be put in your first post (just edit it) so you can keep adding to them and the people on this Disney board will first see work that more pertains to their interest when they come in here. You could add other signifigant Disney works as well, adn what you feel are your best, Disney or non.

Well, I think I have the collages in the first post or posts here. I used to anyway. I was posting them every time I'd do one, and other Disney art too. They still never drew many posters to this thread, ha. I gave up on trying to win over friends here at U.D., ha. It's never really been my thing. I have only like three friends in real life that aren't mere acquaintances, ha.

Disney Duster wrote: I looked at all the collages, and I realized it's not so much the characters themselves I think need fixing, but more that they're all squeezed in so they're a little out of shape. I'm sorry, that's just my honest opinion. But It's undeniable how cool, beautiful, and creative they all are. You have such great ideas, from grandmother willow watching over all of them like nature, Ursual's eels and tentacles forming Ariel's cove hole (that sounds pervy!), and Kuzko being held up by the people (though I would have liked the people who make the collage holding him themselves, maybe even kind of bent under the prssure, but that would involve seriously changing their poses you had to base them off of). The Three Caballeros is really pretty, what great, festive colors! Can't wait to see Melody Time, and I like how the woodpecker's coloring it! That means you actually could leave some wait as uncolored parts, right? And I see the skaters in loev are from that one.

I don't truly plan on leaving any of the Melody Time one uncolored, but then I have no idea if I'll ever go back and finish it, ha. The only collages I really feel are flawed are the Pocahontas one and... well, perhaps a few of the Black Cauldron characters could look just a bit more on model, and Flounder in the Little Mermaid one. Things would change a bit when redrawing/coloring in Photoshop (the initial sketching was done by hand), and sometimes that would be negative changes, but I'm more practiced now I really don't feel anyone got squished in the process. The only comments I've got like that are on The Little Mermaid, as one person once said the faces looked a bit long, but I really feel that has more to do with the memories people have of the film being altered by all the merchandising and such, and the fact that in some scenes Ariel and other characters were drawn a bit longer in the face than in other scenes. Merchandising and other stuff always seems to go with the less elongated look, but in the film she often is more elongated than folks seem to remember. Not VERY (I wouldn't like her so much if she was, as the elongated look has never attracted me much), but more than memory usually serves, depending on the scene. There's also some perspective play with Ariel in that piece. Flounder may look a little squished, but I've always had trouble with Flounder. Not that I've practiced him much.

Disney Duster wrote: I also wanted to say the textures and way of doing the art is great, like grandmother willow looks like real bark and the candle holding girls in Caballeros are done softly. I'm guessing this was all trying to match the style these characters were done in, which is great rather than making them all hard lines.

Thanks. Yeah, I usually would try to do it all in hard lines, beause I wasn't so sure about how it would look with a few characters sticking out because they are done differently. It took me a while to get the candlelight procession looking good with everything else, but I liked how it came out.

Newest Moonlight Motel (thought I'd post it since it's been a topic of discussion here lately):

http://slave2moonlight.deviantart.com/a ... 8-81596916

Thought I'd post some recent stuff here, just for the heck of it. Incidentally, for the Disney stuff, I didn't use references, so don't jump on my head if they're not perfect, ha. I do use references sometimes, but this stuff I happened to do when I didn't feel like digging up any. Of course, there are probably more characters I NEED references for than that I have memorized.

First off, here are some drawings for a new art piece I want to do in the ongoing concept of my Disney Girls piece. Meaning, I'll keep adding to it whenever I have time. It's going to be three pieces actually, each depicting a neighborhood scene. I call it "Disneyville". There will be a regular one, a Halloween one, and a Christmas one. Don't have the official piece up yet because I haven't done the background drawing yet. So far, I've done the three versions of Pluto, Ariel, Pinocchio, and Fox and the Hound. Also have done some for Pooh, Chip 'n' Dale, and Morty and Ferdie. So, here are those:

These Pluto and Fox and the Hound ones have a more finished look. When I did Ariel and Pinocchio, I forgot I was trying to make them look finished here (so I could just "colorize them" in Photoshop, like with my Disney Girls piece), so I guess I'll have to redo those or else redraw everything in Photoshop, I haven't decided yet.





I do intend to have live-action characters in this piece too, when it actually gets going, like Tim Allen as Santa Claus flying overhead in the Christmas scene, probably with Dumbo at the head of the reindeer, and Fred MacMurry flying his car in the regular version, Lizzie McGuire trick or treating or something, and Walt Disney strolling down the street with Mickey, among many others. It'll probably be a neverending project.

Couple of random pieces:

SuperMouse!



Freakazoid (an excuse to draw the goreous, perfectly perfect Stef):



And the latest Moonlight Motel, one of my original strips (the one that gets published, but still not turning much of a profit for me yet, ha). This strip sometimes gets a little racy, but this one is pretty clean. :

Lastly, we finally got the okay to post the Oz artwork we selected artists created for the Orion's Bell roleplaying card game that should be coming out soon. I did the following five pieces for them. Actually, I'm posting six, because they didn't tell me Tin Man was supposed to be rusted until I'd finished that piece, so there are two versions. Also, for the record, they decided to brighten the Tin Man piece quite a bit, but I left it dark here. I like it like this. And, if my two Dorothys don't look exactly alike, that's because I was finished with the first one when they sent out the reference photos of the girl they wanted her to look like. Anyway, I'm still pretty proud of all these. Haven't gotten this detailed on anything since I was a student, because I simply haven't had the time, ha. And, these at least I should eventually see some pay for, so that'll be nice.













I do wish I could have done one of the Wicked Witch, but it just didn't work out that way. Here is the site for the game:
http://www.orionsbell.com

And here is my gallery for more new art, including the latest color pages of the graphic novel I'm working on, "The Tinne", and a few pieces I'd rather not post here:
http://www.slave2moonlight.deviantart.com

wow now those are good! You are a truely talented artist. My mom thinks I am, but your art shows that there are much better works then mine. Hah, of course a mother would think there child is the best though lol.

Anyways, awesome work Slave2moonlight! They are all good, but my favorite would have to be the last one !

Thanks, jeremy88, I'm sure your work is very good. I see work that blows me away all the time on Deviantart.com. If you don't have a gallery there, I highly recommend it.

Nathan, I am always blown away by your talent!!! These pictures are so great!!! The Disney ones look like they're official Disney pictures, they're so good!!!

blackcauldron85 wrote:Nathan, I am always blown away by your talent!!! These pictures are so great!!! The Disney ones look like they're official Disney pictures, they're so good!!!

Thanks so much. I'm one of my worst critics, ha, but I was pretty happy with a few of those Disney ones, considering I didn't reference them. I was particularly happy with the Pluto/Morty/Ferdie Halloween pic and the Pluto and Pinocchio Christmas pics.

I really love the Christmas/Halloween pictures! I really hope you do more soon. You are extremely talented and am happy you have finally updates your artwork thread!

PeterPanfan wrote:I really love the Christmas/Halloween pictures! I really hope you do more soon. You are extremely talented and am happy you have finally updates your artwork thread!

Thanks PeterPanfan. I will try to do more soon. Yeah, I have a fondness for the holiday themes myself.

Wow this is a cool thread, why didn't I see this before ?!

I saw the Pocahontas pic from your website, and I can tell that she looks just like Jessica Biel, even though it doesn't have a caption.
If so, then clearly you're really really good with drawing faces coz that was an uncanny resemblance.

Don't feel bad, hardly anyone checks out this thread.

Well, I've never drawn Jessica Biel. I think you're thinking of the realistic Pocahontas I did? The reference I used was the voice actress who played her speaking voice (not singing voice, as that was someone else if I remember correctly).

LOL, I just figured that out when I rechecked it just to make sure there wasn't a caption, and I was surprised to find one, which makes me feel like a total retard now !

But they're kind of identical in reality, right ?!

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Ha, they do look surprisingly alike. Well, that does make me feel better, so thanks for posting the comparison. Sometimes getting a likeness is easy, and sometimes you're just never satisfied. And sometimes you are and other folks are not, ha.

Anyway, that Pocahontas pic is one of those like the one in my avatar. I do them separately in pencil and I add the color in Photoshop. Then, I post them separately but also add them into a big group picture that is constantly growing. I usually don't use the voice actresses, but sometimes I think they're the best choice.

Well, to tell you to the truth, you have a habit of drawing people that aren't very famous, I mean when I saw they're faces I had a feeling that I saw those people before, but that's probably because I'm more of a Movie person than a T.V person.

But honestly that picture looks a lot more like Irene then Jessica, even though they look like they're seperated from birth.

Yes, I used a lot of my dreamgirls in that group Disney Girl drawing, and I picked up on a lot of them off the Disney Channel over the years and though they continue to work, many of them didn't ever become household names for some reason. Anyway, glad to hear that about the drawing of Irene, thanks.

I'm horrible about replying at times, but just had to pop in and tell you that I do love your work . . .

And being a Freakazoid fan myself it's always great to see fanart from that show.