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Snow White wrote: Disney must to create a great Rapunzel classical fairy tale!!! A great timeless fairy tale, not a modern day fairy tale!!!

I want a very classical story of Rapunzel not a sort of Enchanted in reverse!!!!

AGREED. That has been my point of view since I heard about this movie in late 2003.

Prudence wrote:

Snow White wrote: Disney must to create a great Rapunzel classical fairy tale!!! A great timeless fairy tale, not a modern day fairy tale!!!

I want a very classical story of Rapunzel not a sort of Enchanted in reverse!!!!

AGREED. That has been my point of view since I heard about this movie in late 2003.

I know this post may seem fluffy, but I too agree. To tell the truth, I think that most people really agree. Most people who laugh at Shrek will probably also be engaged by Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio, to tell the truth...

Maybe I missed a memo, but I thought the whole tongue-in-cheek aspect was trashed shortly after Bob Iger became CEO in favor of a more traditional approach. That's why it's simply being called Rapunzel, now, instead of Rapunzel Unbraided. Plus, John Lasseter supposedly said that the first 20 minutes of the film (in storyboard phase) was the best first act he ever saw for any Disney movie. I'd find it pretty hard to believe a first act involving modern people transported to an animated world would bowl him over more than the openings for classics like Snow White, Pinocchio, or Cinderella.

Oh, and summer 2010 seems a pretty likely release window considering we're getting Bolt in '08 and The Princess and the Frog in '09. Those two films are being release fall of their respective years due to summer Pixar flicks (Wall-E and Up!, respectively). A summer 2010 release means Disney and Pixar are going back to their original scheduling roots: a Disney movie in the summer and a Pixar movie in the fall. This also gives more time for Toy Story 3 to be developed.

Disneykid wrote:Maybe I missed a memo, but I thought the whole tongue-in-cheek aspect was trashed shortly after Bob Iger became CEO in favor of a more traditional approach. That's why it's simply being called Rapunzel, now, instead of Rapunzel Unbraided.

I actually knew guessed this too. I should have made it clearer, but my thought was that I can't see how any executive could think that Disney must make a Shrek style fantasy if the Disney Classics were still beloved.

I totally agree with all people who want a very classical approach to Rapunzel!

Don't modernize classical fairy tales!!!

I think that a modern day approach will ruin and destroy the original story... I explain: classical fairy tales are immortal! People love Cinderella because Cinderella is setting "once upon a time, in a far away land"... all modern versions of Cinderella are ugly and stupid!
The same idea for Sleeping Beauty or Little Mermaid...

When people go to the cinema, people want to dream with a classical fairy tale, people want to escape from daily problems and want to find a great classical storyline set in a lush country with NO MODERN DAY REFERENCES!!!

Furthermore, I read that BBC has planned for 2007 a modern day version of Rapunzel... so if disney will create a modern day version of Rapunzel , Disney version will be a simply copy of BBC show!!!

I agree with you, Snow White, when you said that you want to see a great adaptation of Rapunzel and not a sort of Enchanted in reverse!!!!

I think that Disney must to distinguish next movies... Rapunzel's plot today is too similar to "Enchanted"!!! People already confuse two movies and this isn't a good thing! Rapunzel risk to become a simply copy of Enchanted... I dislike this!

Why Disney isn't able to make a great classical fairy tale with no modern day thing? Is it too difficoult to adapt a fairy tale like Rapunzel???

So, please disney, create a great classical version of Rapunzel with NO MODERN DAY REFERENCES and NO MODERN DAY FAT PIZZA BOY!!!!!!!!

Look, we already know that it's going to be in a "classic fairytale" setting. So please calm down and stop posting the same thing over and over.... I agree with you, but you don't have anything to worry about.

Hello!

I read on IMDB that Kevin Linehan will be in the movie and he will voice Bastion...

So do you know who is Bastion???


I read also that Dan Fogler and Kristin Chenoweth will be in the movie. I read that Kristin will be Rapunzel (the squirrel!) and Dan Fogler the Prince...

I know that Dan Fogler will play Shrek in next musical based on the Dreamworks movie... so I really hope the Prince in Rapunzel HASN'T THE LOOK of Dan Fogler!!! I watch early concept art and the modern day pizza boy ressemble a little to Dan Fogler... I hate the idea that Disney want to copy "Shrek"... the Prince in the original concept art is the human copy of Shrek!!!! It's horrid!

Continuously I hope Disney change the story with a classical approach without modern references... why Rapunzel will be a squirrel??? It's so stupid that the title character is a squirrel and the presumed main heroine is a girl who isn't Rapunzel!!! It's horrible!!!!

They must to call this movie "Princess Claire" and NOT Rapunzel!!!!!

Furthermore, why in next pictures all princesses or prince will become animals??? Tiana or Harry in "The princess and the frog" will become frog, Rapunzel and her prince become a squirrel and a bassett hound... disney lost his originality...

I really think that Disney's animation is dead with "Tarzan"... today Disney will survive only because Pixar animation has good stories... disney is a sort of Dreamworks' copy...

Today I think Rapunzel will be a copy of Shrek with the same central character (the fat pizza boy who ressemble too much a human copy of Shrek!), the same voice of Shrek (Dan Fogler... Prince in Rapunzel, Shrek in the musical "Shrek"), the same composer (Jeanine Tesori will be the composer of Disney's "Rapunzel" and the composer of "Shrek the musical"!), the same Production Designer (Doug Rogers was the Production Designer in "Shrek" and today is the Production Designer in "Rapunzel") and a fractured plot (pop culture in Shrek, modern references in Rapunzel)... there is too many similarities in the 2 product... and this isn't good...

I hate the idea that beautiful art of Fragonard will be used to create a stupid and horrible movie!!!

I know that original Rapunzel story is a little stupid but I think Disney must to correct and not to rape, not to kill, not to destroy the original story with a modern-day movie who never become immortal, simply because it isn't set "once upon a time, in a far far away land"!!!! You know... a modern day story is old ten years later... for example: "Oliver & company"... it's a beautiful movie, but it is set in 1980, so today this movie is old, surpassed...
"Cinderella" or "The Little Mermaid" are immortal because are set "once upon a time, in a far far away land"... Cinderella and the Little Mermaid are timeless story... so Rapunzel must to be a timeless story, not a story who'll become old after 10 or 20 years!

I don’t know how anyone else feels, but I really wish you’d stop posting the same thing repeatedly. Every time I come to this topic (and that’s rarely) it’s always the same person posting the same complaint “this must to be a classical story!11!!!!!1`!” We have no control over what Disney does, so making posts like this is just pointless. We know how you feel about the pizza boy and the squirrel idea, okay? Let’s all just wait and see how the movie actually turns out before we start bashing it.

With us seeing animation of Rapunzel already on Youtube (it got removed), I don't think we need to worry about Rapunzel being a squirrel. The only squirrel I have seen is in the scene with a human Rapunzel:

Rapunzel in animation

IMDB is able to have wrong information, and has been incorrect before, so you can think they might might be right but don't be sure they are correct.

I also think we shouldn't start judging now, when we don't actually know anything about the movie! We don't know the whole story, we don't know what was dropped andwhat not. It's all speculation, but we hardly have any facts about the project.
We all want a classical take on the story, but it won't help if we start bashing the movie and repeating the same things over and over.
It's depressing not to have any info on Rapunzel, but the time will come when there's more.

ohh my goodness. THEY'RE NOT DOING THE AWKWARD TEENAGER ONE.

Originally, the film's plot revolved around two 'romantically challenged', real-world teenagers who are transformed into Rapunzel and her Prince by a disgruntled witch who can no longer stand happy fairy-tale endings. However, since production was halted in 2004 for major retooling, Glen Keane has "promised" that the film will revert back to the fairy tale's "literary origins." Thus, it is likely that the previously-mentioned plot of two 'romantically challenged, real-world teenagers' will be discarded.

"Keane also promises that he’s going back to Rapunzel’s literary origins to do a traditional, character-driven fairy tale that speaks to a modern audience. “It’s a story of the need for each person to become who they are supposed to be and for a parent to set them free so they can become that. It will be a musical and a comedy and have a lot of heart and sincerity. I think that’s what Disney needs to do right now. No one else can do it. We should not be embarrassed or making excuses for doing a fairy tale." (http://mag.awn.com/index.php?&article_no=2684&page=6)

The animation we've seen of her and the squirrel is from the original "fractured fairy tale" version of the story. If there even IS a squirrel, it's name WON'T be Rapunzel; the princess is going to be named Rapunzel.

Fantasmic, are you sure? I read this on wikipedia, but wikipedia isn't too reliable...

I know (thanks to a sure source!) that the main heroine today is still named Claire... I don't know if Claire and Rapunzel will be the same character or Claire will be the modern day heroine and the squirrel is Rapunzel... As you know, I hope Claire and Rapunzel will be the same character...
I think Disney could use the same escamotage used in "Sleeping Beauty".. all people know that in the original story Sleeping Beauty is named Briar Rose, in disney's version her name is Aurora and the fairy nicknamed her Briar Rose... so I hope disney will make the same with Rapunzel... her real name will be Claire but the witch call her Rapunzel... It's only my idea, it isn't a spoiler!!!!

I think (and I hope) they'd decided to do a good job with a more straight-forward telling of Rapunzel and that this was the reason it's been pushed back for a release date so many times, because they weren't going to use any modern day teens to tell the story...

Wait and see...

Okay.
Why do u keep bringing this topic up?
I thought a while ago it was confirmed that Rupunzel was going to be a traditional fairytale.

So I don't understand why everyone keeps talking about the teenager thing or the squirel thing anymore.

Yeah.

No offense,but do you have an obsession with squirrels? Becuase even after someone denied it...you keep bringing it up.

The part with the squirrel was left long ago. It belonged to the original script, and it contained a lot of morphing about humans turning to animals and from what I have heard, it was a little confusing. But as it has been confirmed a lot of times already, this will be a traditional Disney fairy tale, so there is no need to worry.

And in this case, Wikipedia can be trusted because all you have to do is to follow the links mentioned as references, which leads to the articles already mentioned in this thread.

But there is one thing that worries me. Zemeckis is now a part of the Disney team, and his upcoming movie A Christmas Carol is supposed to be released around the Christmas holiday in 2009. But that's the same time as they had planned for The Princess and the Frog. Because Disney wan't compete with itself, one of these movies has to be put on wait for a few months. For obvious reasons, A Christmas Carol will do best around Christmas, and since The Princess and the Frog is rumored to include scenes from Mardi Gras, guess which one is most likley to have to wait till February in 2010?

The Princess and the Frog is much further ahead in production than Rapunze, so it will be released first, even if imdb says something else. If Disney don't wan't both movies out the same year, it could in worst case scenario mean we have to wait till 2011.

that's fine, i'd much rather have princess and the frog (2-D, musical, original!). as excited as i am for rapunzel, it holds less relevance to the overall future of Disney Animation.

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:The part with the squirrel was left long ago. It belonged to the original script, and it contained a lot of morphing about humans turning to animals and from what I have heard, it was a little confusing. But as it has been confirmed a lot of times already, this will be a traditional Disney fairy tale, so there is no need to worry.

And in this case, Wikipedia can be trusted because all you have to do is to follow the links mentioned as references, which leads to the articles already mentioned in this thread.

Rumpelstiltskin, do you know people who are working on Rapunzel?

I ask it because in the article (not the commentary of Wikipedia user!), Mr. Keane don't said that in this movie there aren't modern references or the squirrel story... Mr Keane said only that this movie isn't a spoof like Shrek, but disney can create a serious movie with modern elements and the squirrel story (although I continue to hope for classic storyline, not a modern take)...

could you answer to my question? thanks.

For "The princess and the frog" I hope it will be in theatre for November/December 2009, because if in USA this movie will be released in March 2010, in Italy it will be released in June 2010 and in Italy all movie released in June are a very huge flop...

he DID say it's going to be a classic fairytale. whether or not there'll be modern references (I doubt it -- the movie's been retooled so many times any pop culture jokes would likely be outdated), is irrelevant. IF the squirrel is still in it, it will NOT be the original story. if it was, it would NOT be a classic fairytale, so maybe stop trying to cause problems. kthxbye.

THERE ARE NO SQUIRRELS OR MODERN REFERENCES


Alright.
It was already confirmed long ago.
So lets all just stop posting the same thing over and over.
And leave this thread to rest until some real Rupunzel news comes out.

amen.