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Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:04 pm
by RyGuy
Took my teenaged kids to see it yesterday. Everyone liked it. After having had the day to reflect on it, I think it's a decent movie, but it seems to lack tension (i.e., a reason why you should be invested in the characters). I'm not sure whether that's due to the story itself or the execution of the story; I plan to see it again to try to solidify my thoughts.

I'd rank this one in the middle of the WDAS canon. It's not bad, but it doesn't feel great either.

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:27 pm
by Jules
RyGuy wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:04 pm Took my teenaged kids to see it yesterday. Everyone liked it. After having had the day to reflect on it, I think it's a decent movie, but it seems to lack tension (i.e., a reason why you should be invested in the characters). I'm not sure whether that's due to the story itself or the execution of the story; I plan to see it again to try to solidify my thoughts.

I'd rank this one in the middle of the WDAS canon. It's not bad, but it doesn't feel great either.
Luke expresses a similar opinion in his review!

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:38 pm
by Farerb
Down to 46%

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:37 pm
by Disney's Divinity
I liked it, personally. I feel a little iffy about where I'd rank it for now. Not as good as Frozen, TP&TF, and Raya--more on level with Frozen II, Zootopia, and Encanto. Valentino turned out not to be too bad, thank God. He was the thing I was most worried about. The music is the other thing I was always going to be skeptical about. Not quite as bad as I feared back when the composer was first revealed, but not great by any means. My biggest criticism was the start of the film was pretty rushed. A little more time spent there in those early scenes, I think it would've been a little better. TBH, the film felt incredibly short to me? Of course, it was an hour and a half after I got out, but it felt like I'd only been there for 40 minutes or something. And sometimes it felt slightly more childish at times than you'd expect (particularly the song after Star is first revealed)--a similar thing I noticed with Elemental, actually. Also, the modern way the characters speak that some complained about with Raya and Encanto hit me harder in this film than those.

My favorite scene was when Magnifico confronts Asha and her family at their home. I thought Magnifico was a decent villain, their best since Facilier no doubt. Loved his design--made me think of White Diamond and Sarumon. Asha herself was fine, she reminded me a lot of Raya from that film as far as feeling more undefined than other characters in the film. Asha becoming a Fairy Godmother was a really nice ending for me; I think for a while we thought she'd become Queen at the end, this was a cuter idea. Star, Magnifico, and Valentino were the best parts of the film for me. As for the other characters, I liked Asha's mother, Dahlia, Sneezy, and Dopey alright, the other Teens were forgettable (or annoying, in Grumpy's case). Anyway, the film was incredibly pretty, hopefully a start for a new direction for them visually. I'd give it somewhere around a 6.5 out of 10.

Lots of references--I felt like Sleeping Beauty got the most in the end. Strangely, I almost think they referenced Morgana from Return of the Sea of all things when Magnifico is on top of the tower with the wishes--everything's green, he was clutching the staff and saying, "Wishes do come true...!" I'd laugh if that was unintentional, it was so similar to that moment. The images over the credits were really neat. I wonder though--I thought they were supposed to play "Once Upon a Studio" before the film, but they didn't?

Thankfully they were giving out free posters of the film at the front of the theater. :) Need to pick up the soundtrack next. I wonder if it'll get a physical release (without score) or if they might release the whole thing (songs and score) together digitally at some point?

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:17 pm
by rodrigo_ca
Well, there it goes, I probably got Wish spoiled because it only releases in my country two months from now due to Disney's terrible strategy. This isn't even the first time it happens due to this crazy delayed release happening in the 2020s like it's 1953.

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:24 pm
by Farerb
At All Costs was obviously written as a love duet between Asha and the Star (as human) and they repurposed it for something else in the movie (they changed the original lyrics "love you" to "promise"):
https://youtu.be/g3aZp2QplvQ?si=AAdUyn5mHoFm_cSE

Re: Wish

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:17 pm
by Farerb
Wish has received A- CinemaScore:
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Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:06 am
by Pokenonbinary
A- is not good but at least not horrible, many of us were really thinking it could get a B like Strange World after that horrible audience score in Rotten Tomatoes

Anyways I hope the movie is good at least to me, it releases in France a week later for some reason

It will flop for sure (200M budget) but if it has good legs like Elemental (another movie movie flopped) it will not look like a disappointment at least

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:16 am
by Marce82
I am purposely not reading comments about the movie here, cause I haven't seen it yet. I have already had a plot point spoiled by watching an online review! Darn!

I don't think this has been posted, it's DeBose singing the main song at Disneyland Paris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXHfXa_5jGM

There was a lot of debate when Little Mermaid'23 came out and there was a video of Halle Bailey and whether she was lip-syncing. DeBose is definitely singing for real. Not a perfect performance, but it's a hard song! Good for her.

I also wonder if they didn't make her grow her hair long and style it like that to look like Asha hahahaha.

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:48 am
by carolinakid
Disney should have just rereleased the original Snow White in theaters to celebrate their 100th Anniversary and called it a day.

I have no plans to see Wish until it’s on DVD, but I could definitely get a group of friends to go see Snow White on the big screen.
There were 10 of us who went to see the 60th Anniversary of Alfred Hitchcock’s The Birds at the cinema last month.

Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 to all!
The gang and I will be screening Saludos Amigos (80th Anniversary) and Peter Pan (70th Anniversary) later today after our turkey dinner!

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:24 am
by D23ExpoVisitor25
carolinakid wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:48 am Disney should have just rereleased the original Snow White in theaters to celebrate their 100th Anniversary and called it a day.

I have no plans to see Wish until it’s on DVD, but I could definitely get a group of friends to go see Snow White on the big screen.
There were 10 of us who went to see the 60th Anniversary of Alfred Hitchcock’s The Birds at the cinema last month.

Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 to all!
The gang and I will be screening Saludos Amigos (80th Anniversary) and Peter Pan (70th Anniversary) later today after our turkey dinner!
I’ll do you one better. They should’ve released a Mickey Mouse movie instead.

Oh well.

Maybe in 2028, for Mickey Mouse’s 100th birthday, they will.

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:51 am
by blackcauldron85
Disney's Divinity wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:37 pm I wonder if it'll get a physical release (without score) or if they might release the whole thing (songs and score) together digitally at some point?
When I was on Amazon downloading the soundtrack, they did have vinyl and CD versions, I believe.

I see Wish again this afternoon. I'm looking forward to it and my friend is really excited to see it the first time.

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:53 am
by carolinakid
D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:24 amI’ll do you one better. They should’ve released a Mickey Mouse movie instead.

Oh well.

Maybe in 2028, for Mickey Mouse’s 100th birthday, they will.
I hear ya, buddy!

10 or 12 of the best/most significant Fab 5 shorts and Silly Symphonies to mark the
Centennial of the Walt Disney Company.
I’d be there for that!!!

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:09 am
by DisneyJedi
So a couple of nitwits (I have another name to call them, but I’m not because I want to keep things PG here) decided to ruffle some feathers on Reddit and Twitter by pointing out references from the ending and claiming that because of the references, that means Wish is “canonically” a prequel to the Disney movies the references are made to. And because of said nitwits, people are up in arms. People these days… :|

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:33 pm
by Farerb
Farerb wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:24 pm At All Costs was obviously written as a love duet between Asha and the Star (as human) and they repurposed it for something else in the movie (they changed the original lyrics "love you" to "promise"):
https://youtu.be/g3aZp2QplvQ?si=AAdUyn5mHoFm_cSE
I would have loved seeing this movie:
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Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:38 pm
by DisneyJedi
Not sure how much would have changed if Star were human, other than the inclusion of a romantic subplot. But I’m pleased with the route they went.

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:46 pm
by Farerb
DisneyJedi wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:38 pm Not sure how much would have changed if Star were human, other than the inclusion of a romantic subplot. But I’m pleased with the route they went.
First, he would have been an actual character and not just an emoji.

Second, there are other changes I think they should have made, like removing all the useless teens and the farting goat, and make the relationship between Asha and her grandfather stronger.

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:24 pm
by Sotiris
Farerb wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:17 pmWish has received A- CinemaScore.
Trolls 3 got an A. :scratch:

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:26 pm
by PatrickvD
Cinemascore is useless. It literally means nothing anymore.

Re: Wish

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:40 pm
by Farerb
PatrickvD wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:26 pm Cinemascore is useless. It literally means nothing anymore.
Cinemascore for Disney Animation and Pixar has always been useless because all films get A-, A, A+. Only Strange World got a B. So Cinemascore doesn't really say anything when it comes to animated films.