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Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:18 am
by Edthehyena
Well, since i know the original tale very well, and from all we know so far, i've tracked all the meeting points and comparisons for you… Interesting. This contains potential spoilers.

BOTH
- troll(s) (connected to the freezing spells somehow)
- a magical ice palace and a mysterious snow queen
- a reindeer
- wolves

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- a slibing relationship (DISNEY : anna and elsa ANDERSEN : kay and gerda )
- a slibing sweet character becoming cold, stark and distant (DISNEY : elsa ANDERSEN : kay )
- a slibing sweet character receiving a freezing-heart spell by accident (DISNEY : anna ANDERSEN : kay )
- effect of that freezing-heart spell (DISNEY : to be physically frozen then dead ANDERSEN : to become cold, stark and mean )
- a slibing sweet character going on a quest to save the one (DISNEY : anna ANDERSEN : gerda )
- a prince and a princess (DISNEY : hans, anna, elsa ANDERSEN : the prince and the princess gerda meets )
- many reference to flowers, roses (DISNEY : rosemaling, at oaken's, on elsa's arendelle scepter ANDERSEN : in gerda and kay's garden, in the old gardener's garden )
- a loving adult couple (DISNEY : anna and kristoff ANDERSEN : grown up gerda and kay at the end )
- a boy kid (DISNEY : young kristoff ANDERSEN : kay )
- a girl kid (DISNEY : young anna and elsa ANDERSEN : gerda )
- sideckick (DISNEY : olaf ANDERSEN : the crow )
- a cure to thaw a frozen heart (DISNEY : an act of love ANDERSEN : tears of love )
- cosy warm places (DISNEY : oaken's place ANDERSEN : at lap and finn women's )
- nice encounters (DISNEY : oaken, kristoff, reindeer, olaf, trolls ANDERSEN : crows, prince, princess, robber girl, reindeer, lap and finn women)
- dangerous encounters (DISNEY : wolves, marshmallow, hans, elsa ANDERSEN : old gardener, robbers, snow queen gards, wolves )
- sweet granny figures (DISNEY : the troll womanANDERSEN : the granny, the old gardener )
- snow queen gards (DISNEY : one, marshmallow ANDERSEN : many )

Just forget the mirror. Or maybe we'll have the chance to get an allusion somewhere. Would be so easy to incorporate…

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:44 am
by Scamander
OMG... Disney just announced the German (maybe also the dutch?) voice actor of Elsa and it's Willemijn Verkaik. :o

A few months ago I've joked about this, but I never thought they would actually do this. So happy right now! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhxErByAx18

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:48 am
by Tristy
Scamander wrote:OMG... Disney just announced the German (maybe also the dutch?) voice actor of Elsa and it's Willemijn Verkaik. :o

A few months ago I've joked about this, but I never thought they would actually do this. So happy right now! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhxErByAx18
Woah! Two Elphabas for the price of one! :lol:

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:06 am
by PatrickvD
PLEASE let Willemijn do the Dutch version as well. That would make up for the fuck-up that was Tangled.

She can easily do both. *crosses fingers*

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:48 am
by disneyprincess11
Scamander wrote:OMG... Disney just announced the German (maybe also the dutch?) voice actor of Elsa and it's Willemijn Verkaik. :o

A few months ago I've joked about this, but I never thought they would actually do this. So happy right now! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhxErByAx18

rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

This is so ironic! I can picture the description for the audition!
Elsa-The Snow Queen. Blah, blah, blah. MUST PLAYED ELPHABA IN A PRODUCTION OF WICKED :P :P :P
But, really. Wonderful! Great voice! Go Wilemijn!

Wait, where did they announced this?

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:39 pm
by Scamander
disneyprincess11 wrote:Wait, where did they announced this?
There is a press release available on the German Disney press server. I can't link to it, but here are some promo pictures. :)

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Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:01 pm
by Mach Full Force
Super Aurora wrote:Yeah, Elsa is the result of when the Snow Queen and Kai did a Fusion-ha dance.
Somebody please draw that.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:24 pm
by Prince Kido
Here's a video from Youtube Disney's Portugal focusing on Olaf with a bit of new footage :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMdDYd5YCus[/youtube]

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:54 pm
by Edthehyena
Perfectly inventive, sweet, charming, funny...
Olaf is a good character, a good sidekick. So much better than Pumba, Timon, Mushu and so.
And Josh's voice is so perfect. No one compares.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:20 pm
by taei
Olaf seems to be a perfect comic relief character for me..

I mean, he actually helps them out. I found Ray annoying, but I don't think Olaf is annoying at all!

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:23 pm
by PatrickvD
I love the endless falling apart jokes. So inventive and must have been cool to storyboard and animate.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:37 pm
by pangrizabella
Much as I wish some of the other characters were given the spotlight a bit more in Disney's promotion of the movie, Olaf really is growing on me. I will admit to not being all that impressed with his design initially, but I'm finding Olaf to be very endearing as comedic side-kicks go, and it's the sort of humour that appeals to me.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:53 pm
by unprincess
^your avatar, sir/mam, rocks! Oliver & Co will always be my sentimental fave Disney animated film no matter how badly it dates.

back to Frozen...

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:13 pm
by Musical Master
Okay, Disney has finally gotten a speaking sidekick, who's warm, funny, and kind of charming in Olaf's own way. If he is as good as the clip makes him out to be; then he has already defeated Ray from TPATF as my favorite Disney sidekick in this new Disney era.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:23 pm
by taei
Someone from tumblr:

"Idk if anyone else saw it but i did.. I was watching disney channel and lik OMG there was the frozen trailer right?! But it was slightly different than the one weve all seen!!! It had like a seen with kristoff telling sven "you know i cant understand you when u talk like that" and u could see anna n the ice castle and the dukes men throwing spears!!! I hadnt seen this before?! I was like-WHAT?! But its mostly the same so at first i wouldnt hav thought that.."

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:02 am
by thelittleursula
taei wrote:Someone from tumblr:

"Idk if anyone else saw it but i did.. I was watching disney channel and lik OMG there was the frozen trailer right?! But it was slightly different than the one weve all seen!!! It had like a seen with kristoff telling sven "you know i cant understand you when u talk like that" and u could see anna n the ice castle and the dukes men throwing spears!!! I hadnt seen this before?! I was like-WHAT?! But its mostly the same so at first i wouldnt hav thought that.."
I feel sorry for any Grammar Nazis reading this right now :lol:

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:18 am
by DisneyFan09
pangrizabella wrote:Much as I wish some of the other characters were given the spotlight a bit more in Disney's promotion of the movie, Olaf really is growing on me. I will admit to not being all that impressed with his design initially, but I'm finding Olaf to be very endearing as comedic side-kicks go, and it's the sort of humour that appeals to me.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I thought he seemed very annoying at first, but he seems more endearing now. Though I shall see the movie first.

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:09 am
by universALLove
Olaf will be the new Dory - A secondary character that is funny, sweet, endearing, well voiced etc. and could ultimately steal the show from the mains :D

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:55 pm
by TheBlibaBlob
Does anyone know anyone who has posted the entire junior novelisation? I've found some pages but would very much like the whole thing.
Getting rather exciting that the film is less than 2 months away :)

Re: Frozen: Part IV

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:01 pm
by Musical Master
TheBlibaBlob wrote:Does anyone know anyone who has posted the entire junior novelisation? I've found some pages but would very much like the whole thing.
Getting rather exciting that the film is less than 2 months away :)
What? You can't wait for 1 month and 26 days for the film to come out.

I know I have been spoiled on some things. But I'm saving my judgement untill I see the film with my eyes.

Why hasn't Jim Hill written on an early screening of Frozen if he has seen it? I remember that he wrote a mini review of Tangled two months prior to the films release in November.