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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:33 pm
by robster16
found a bigger picture of the toy tower and in the bed you can see a slightly bigger dummy doll of Pascal the Chameleon. I'm really grasping at straws here LOL

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and a close-up of Flynn's face:

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Finally, a different angle of Maximus the horse in this shot:

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:55 pm
by Poody
^Wow I love the pic with all the Rapunzel dolls together behind the logo. I dont' see why Disney can't see how nice that looks. It would look extremely awkward seeing it say "Tangled." I imagine the movie poster just have Rapunzel's long hair coming out of the tower all bushy and tangled up around the other characters below..... :roll:

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:09 pm
by Miss_Tink
Has is been 100% confirmed that the title has been changed to Tangled? The homepage of the Walt Disney Pictures website is still promoting the movie with the title Rapunzel.

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:28 pm
by robster16
report from jimhillmedia about the American Toy Fair situation:

What with Walt Disney Animation Studios’ decision last week to rename “Rapunzel,” the folks working Mattel’s showroom at the American International Toy Fair were caught kind of flat-footed. You see, all of the signage & product that they had brought to NYC to display at the Javits Center still featured the film’s original title. Rather than this movie’s new moniker, “Tangled.” But that said, Mattel’s spokespeople still tried to make the best of a somewhat awkward situation. Telling reporters that Disney’s sudden name change would have little or no impact on this toy company’s new product line.

“You have to understand that what we have on display here are just our prototypes,” an unnamed staffer explained. “And since we’re still tweaking the design of a few of these toys, we haven’t actually got into production on any of them yet. So when it comes to incorporating this movie’s new title into the product line … Well, we’ll obviously have to change out the logo that Disney gave us to use on all of our ‘Rapunzel’ packaging. But – beyond that – I think that we should still be good to go here.”

And once you can then get past this whole name-change hiccup thing, the people at Mattel will tell you that they’re clearly excited about their “Rapunzel” … er … “Tangled” product line. That – reflecting the active nature of this new Disney Princess – that they really gone out of their way to amp up the playability in this new toy line. “With Rapunzel, it’s obviously all going to be about the hair,” this unnamed Mattel staffer continued. “So we’re doing everything we can to make sure that little girls can become part of the Disney Magic by including wear-and-share hair clips with each doll in this line. Which means that – if you’d like – you can clip Rapunzel’s long golden locks onto the doll or into your own hair.”

And Mattel plans on making this wear-and-share hair clip feature available for all dolls in its “Tangled” product line. From the Rapunzel Small Doll Collectible (which will be available in two forms) to the 10-inch tall Rapunzel Sparkle Princess Fashion Doll. Which will be supported by Rapunzel’s romantic interest -- the infamous bandit, Flynn Rider – as well as her trusty steed, Maximus. The folks at Mattel are particularly excited about Maximus. Given that this toy comes with an articulated head. Which will (the Company hopes) allow children to create interaction & play between their Rapunzel & Maximus dolls.

Mattel also has high hopes for its Rapunzel Braiding Friends Hair Braider. Which it plans on using as the TV driver for this new product line as we go into the 2010 holiday season. “Little girls aspire to be able to braid hair. And the great thing about this toy is that – as Rapunzel’s forest friends dance -- they actually do braid this Disney Princess’ hair for her,” the Mattel staffer went on. “Given that the hair is clipped, it’s safe for children of any age to use. This is a real first in toy-making, by the way. Rapunzel’s hair isn’t just twisted by this apparatus. It’s actually braided.”

But if there’s one toy in its “Tangled” toy line that Mattel is counting on, it’s the Rapunzel Fairytale Tower. “All of the other Disney Princesses live in castles. Whereas Rapunzel, she’s got something really special. A five room tower,” this Mattel staffer said. “And we’ve made a real effort here to replicate the look & feel of the movie. Right down to Rapunzel’s art studio, where little girls can then change the look of the murals on the wall by painting them with cold water. Or – better yet – poking around this new Disney Princess’ bedroom. Where you’ll find a secret compartment where Rapunzel hides her crown as well as the hiding place where chameleon companion Pascal hangs out.”

And just like all of the toys in Mattel’s “Tangled” product line, the Rapunzel Fairytale Tower also features a share-and-wear hair clip. Only this time around, it’s a 30 inch-long hair extension. Which (it is hoped) will help little girls act out some of the more dramatic / magical moments from this upcoming Walt Disney Animation Studios release.

A particularly nice aspect of the “Tangled” display in Mattel’s showroom at this year’s American International Toy Fair is that it included a highlight reel for this film. With is built around this girl who (as Flynn Rider describes her) has “ … more blonde hair than Sweden,” who has to come out of her tower to discover who she really is.

Now I know that a lot of people might use Disney’s decision to rename “Rapunzel” to start talking up “Tangled” as an extremely troubled production. And Lord knows, given the number of years & staff changes that it’s taken to finally bring this story to the screen, there’s plenty of reasons out there for people to start gossiping about this project. But as far as the folks at Mattel are concerned, “Rapunzel” … “Tangled” … Whatever title this new Walt Disney Animation Studios release is eventually released under doesn’t really matter.

“Every time we’ve shown the Rapunzel character doll to little girls, they’ve just gone nuts,“ this Mattel staffer concluded. “They love how she looks. They love her long hair. They want to play with her right now. Mark my words: No matter what Disney winds up calling this movie, retailers who stock the Rapunzel product line are going to be very happy this holiday season. And in the long run, the Rapunzel character itself will increase interest in & add value to the whole Disney Princess franchise.”

But what do you folks think? I’m especially looking to hear from JHM readers who are the parents of small girls? Would any of the “Tangled” products pictured in this article appeal to your child?

Let us know, okay?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:42 pm
by PatrickvD
look, the dolls were gonna sell like hot pockets anyway, no matter what they call the movie. A Barbie doll with super long hair? KA-CHING.

That doesn't make "Tangled" an interesting title. Marketing to boys is how you sell the film. If they show action and humor in the trailer, boys will see it regardless how you call it.

My brother and I watched Cinderella and The Little Mermaid... because they're great films. There was never any emphasis on the princess aspect in the marketing of those films. Naturally so, because "Disney Princess" didn't exists back then.

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:21 pm
by Dream Huntress
Mattel’s spokespeople still tried to make the best of a somewhat awkward situation. Telling reporters that Disney’s sudden name change would have little or no impact on this toy company’s new product line.

“You have to understand that what we have on display here are just our prototypes,” an unnamed staffer explained. “And since we’re still tweaking the design of a few of these toys, we haven’t actually got into production on any of them yet. So when it comes to incorporating this movie’s new title into the product line … Well, we’ll obviously have to change out the logo that Disney gave us to use on all of our ‘Rapunzel’ packaging. But – beyond that – I think that we should still be good to go here.”
Bummer, I was hoping this could somehow affect and reverse their decision of giving the movie a new title. The show must go on indeed.

I still think the powers that be should be worrying about the release date instead.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:40 am
by robster16
With a new viral campaign for the Disney movie Tron Legacy counting down to a vertain event timed with the release of "Alice In Wonderland" in cinema's how big are the chances that we'll be getting a trailer for Tron Legacy and not for Rapunzel?

I mean, would it be possible for Disney to attach both trailer premieres on this one movie? Or will they spread them out... If so, what would be the next opportunity for them to release a trailer for Rapunzel?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:35 am
by PatrickvD
robster16 wrote:With a new viral campaign for the Disney movie Tron Legacy counting down to a vertain event timed with the release of "Alice In Wonderland" in cinema's how big are the chances that we'll be getting a trailer for Tron Legacy and not for Rapunzel?

I mean, would it be possible for Disney to attach both trailer premieres on this one movie? Or will they spread them out... If so, what would be the next opportunity for them to release a trailer for Rapunzel?
it was already confirmed a trailer will appear on TPATF dvd/BD

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:40 am
by robster16
PatrickvD wrote:
robster16 wrote:With a new viral campaign for the Disney movie Tron Legacy counting down to a vertain event timed with the release of "Alice In Wonderland" in cinema's how big are the chances that we'll be getting a trailer for Tron Legacy and not for Rapunzel?

I mean, would it be possible for Disney to attach both trailer premieres on this one movie? Or will they spread them out... If so, what would be the next opportunity for them to release a trailer for Rapunzel?
it was already confirmed a trailer will appear on TPATF dvd/BD
dangit, so another full month left, unless they premiere the trailer online one or 2 weeks in advance... We REAAAALLY should be getting some visuals by now. A teaser poster is LONG overdue, some character shots, SOMETHING

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:42 am
by blackcauldron85
Babaloo wrote:Even though "Tangled" doesn't refer to the actual story
But we don't know that yet...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:18 am
by Prince Kido
From what I know for now, it's not sure at all we'll might see a teaser trailer with Alice in Wonderland, and maybe the one attached to TPATF upcoming Dvd is only a short shot of the tower.
The trailer shown for the title surveys was only in work-in-progress and is supposed to be attached to Toy Story 3.
I guess you have to stay patient, positive and confident because the production crew is working very hard now to complete the best movie as possible regarding their crazy schedule.
The TPATF marketing was an exception but most of the animated movies have official images and trailers around 6 months before the release on screens and like for Bolt which was retooled (as it is for Tangled !) , we got to see stuff of the movie not that soon too.
Despite all the Tangled controversy , I can say that the movie looks really great, charming and exciting, especially for me as a professional drawer also as a Disney leading heroines fan.
Although I would also prefer the original title to stay as Rapunzel ( Princesse Raiponce is the current title in my country but not sure thought it will stay like this until the release...wait and see...), I didn't sign your petition Robster because you seem first very capricious regarding the Disney adaptation even if I do understand and share most of your thoughts, but more I don't agree with you about the fact you think that Flynn has now a too much significant role in the movie on the side of Rapunzel.
After all, Naveen was at least as great for audience as Tiana and most of the Disney couples are equally great. What is fun is that even Prince Philip had more on-screen time opposite to Aurora! ;)
Flynn is a great character and that doesn't put lovely Rapunzel aside, believe me...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:48 am
by robster16
Prince Kido wrote:From what I know for now, it's not sure at all we'll might see a teaser trailer with Alice in Wonderland, and maybe the one attached to TPATF upcoming Dvd is only a short shot of the tower.
The trailer shown for the title surveys was only in work-in-progress and is supposed to be attached to Toy Story 3.
I guess you have to stay patient, positive and confident because the production crew is working very hard now to complete the best movie as possible regarding their crazy schedule.
The TPATF marketing was an exception but most of the animated movies have official images and trailers around 6 months before the release on screens and like for Bolt which was retooled (as it is for Tangled !) , we got to see stuff of the movie not that soon too.
Despite all the Tangled controversy , I can say that the movie looks really great, charming and exciting, especially for me as a professional drawer also as a Disney leading heroines fan.
Although I would also prefer the original title to stay as Rapunzel ( Princesse Raiponce is the current title in my country but not sure thought it will stay like this until the release...wait and see...), I didn't sign your petition Robster because you seem first very capricious regarding the Disney adaptation even if I do understand and share most of your thoughts, but more I don't agree with you about the fact you think that Flynn has now a too much significant role in the movie on the side of Rapunzel.
After all, Naveen was at least as great for audience as Tiana and most of the Disney couples are equally great. What is fun is that even Prince Philip had more on-screen time opposite to Aurora! ;)
Flynn is a great character and that doesn't put lovely Rapunzel aside, believe me...
I'm not saying Flynn has too much focus in the movie, because I haven't seen it yet, I have said that I find it weird that the focus in terms of marketing has shifted from Rapunzel as the main character to Flynn, which is weird because that SEEMS to be purely marketing driven.

I'd like to remind everyone again, I have no problems with the movie. I'm still HUGELY anxious and excited to see it. I just can't understand the decision to use this new title. It doesn't feel Disney and can't be compared to other classic titles like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid etc. But there's nothing much I can do about so we'll see what happens.

Btw, Prince Kido, have you seen bits of the movie? If so, could you tell us something about the visual style and the animation. Is it really such a leap forward compared to older 3D animated characters? I have high expectations and faith in Glen Keane and his team in creating beautiful animation. I would LOVE to go to some sort of test screening or some work in progress showing. I have seriously been considering booking tickets to the comin con in july/august to maybe attend the Disney event this year in the hope of seeing some footage from Rapunzel.

I wonder when we'll be getting a full voice cast for the movie and a complete list of characters. There's so much info they could give us to keep us happy untill we get a trailer or something and keep the buzz alive. I hope they kick into full promo gear soon

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:18 am
by Babaloo
I'm extremely excited that, if Disney does keep their promise, we'll get something on the PatF Bluray/DVD. It might not happen, but if it does, that means I'll get to rewatch it over and over, instead of watching it once in the theatres. But if it comes down that we don't get anything at all, I guess I wouldn't be too disappointed, since I don't want anyone to rush anything. I'd like Disney to take their time on this. But like robster16 said, I would like something! Like a new pic, cast list, whatever! I don't care if it's just the new title card, I just want something :D!

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:40 pm
by Prince Kido
Be patient ! :)
You've just seen the Mattel prototypes doll's line and learnt that there are 2 news characters (Maximus and Pascal). :))

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:01 pm
by Daydreamer
Thanks Kido for your precious heads up :wink: !
I can't help but subscribe every word by Babaloo...If we only got a chance to take a look at MOTHER GOTHEL!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:38 pm
by Candy-Bonita95
A particularly nice aspect of the “Tangled” display in Mattel’s showroom at this year’s American International Toy Fair is that it included a highlight reel for this film. With is built around this girl who (as Flynn Rider describes her) has “ … more blonde hair than Sweden,” who has to come out of her tower to discover who she really is.
:lol: I don't if that joke is Shrek-esque or Jen's Body-esque but to me it's funny.Maybe the humor won't be too bad.I think the reason why this is a comedy because Rapunzel is naive and Flynn is sarcastic.Flynn can say something stupid to aggrevate Rapunzel.Rapunzel hasn't been aggrevated in her life before ;therefore she might become angry or start crying. :lol:
I was like that before.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:04 pm
by Snow White
I really like your words, Prince Kido...

I only hope Rapunzel or Tangled (I hate this title!) will be not a Shrek version of this beloved fairy tale. I dislike spoofy so I think Disney must to do a movie with heart, humor and epic moments, but I don't want a new ripoff of Shrek.

I hope humor isn't crassy like Shrek (I'm too annoyed to see fart jokes or other, I think people today want to see other) and I hope Rapunzel will be more Princess because I didn't love last official picture with her and Flynn (yes, Flynn is gorgeous, but Rapunzel isn't what I want to see, she hasn't qualities for a Princess, but I really like dolls).

I agree with Prince Kido. I really like Flynn will be a great character with a great role in the movie, I hope he and Rapunzel will be a great fairy tale couple.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:16 pm
by Candy-Bonita95
Snow White wrote:I really like your words, Prince Kido...

I only hope Rapunzel or Tangled (I hate this title!) will be not a Shrek version of this beloved fairy tale. I dislike spoofy so I think Disney must to do a movie with heart, humor and epic moments, but I don't want a new ripoff of Shrek.

I hope humor isn't crassy like Shrek (I'm too annoyed to see fart jokes or other, I think people today want to see other) and I hope Rapunzel will be more Princess because I didn't love last official picture with her and Flynn (yes, Flynn is gorgeous, but Rapunzel isn't what I want to see, she hasn't qualities for a Princess, but I really like dolls).

I agree with Prince Kido. I really like Flynn will be a great character with a great role in the movie, I hope he and Rapunzel will be a great fairy tale couple.
That last pic of Flynn and Rapunzel was inspired by a storyboard scene.(The one where she's showing Flynn her painting of the stars.We've seen this in the d23 magazine)As for the humor...using my brain Shrek humor won't work especially when each character doesn't have the personallity for it.As for Rapunzel and Flynn they'll be like Robert and Giselle.(There might be a scene in Rapunzel that's inspired by the "hot robe"scene in Enchanted :lol: )

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:25 pm
by MutantEnemy
The more I think about it, the more I think Entangled would be a more suitable title because it is better at both bringing to mind that this is an adventure film with characters getting stuck in situations (like in a tower) and the whole Rapunzel hair thing. Plus Entangled sounds better than Tangled, more classic imho! It is probably to close to Enchanted though, oh well.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:36 pm
by Margos
MutantEnemy wrote:The more I think about it, the more I think Entangled would be a more suitable title because it is better at both bringing to mind that this is an adventure film with characters getting stuck in situations (like in a tower) and the whole Rapunzel hair thing. Plus Entangled sounds better than Tangled, more classic imho! It is probably to close to Enchanted though, oh well.
You know, that's a really good idea! I doubt they'd do it, but it does sound a lot better than just Tangled.