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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:47 pm
by robster16
yukitora wrote:I'm getting really excited to Tangled. It really does seem to better feature than the Princess and the Frog. Promising CGI eyecandy, reliable disney music guarenteed to be nominated for oscars, possible disney's most intriguing villian yet (if gothel is the only thing disney is faithfully adapting from the fairytale, good job!), sexy male lead and relatively sexy female lead (her older design was nicer imo) and charmelion! Yummy!
Honestly this movie is just sounding better and better.
The movie itself does indeed sound VERY exciting and promising, it's just that damn title. If anyone wonders I'll keep reffering to the movie as "Rapunzel", I suggest we all do!
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:55 pm
by Sotiris
In France the film will be renamed from Rapunzel to...-wait for it-...Princess Rapunzel.
Disney France confirmed to me today that in spite of the US title change, the French title did not change and will remain 'Princesse Raiponce' [Princess Rapunzel].
The success of the Princess and the Frog in France had undoubtedly played a role in this decision!
Source: http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard. ... 37-700.htm
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:59 pm
by singerguy04
sotiris2006 wrote:In France the film will also be renamed from "Rapunzel" to...-wait for it-..."Princess Rapunzel"
Disney France confirmed to me today that in spite of the US title change, the French title did not change to him and will remain "Princesse Raiponce" [Princess Rapunzel].
The success of the Princess and the Frog in France had undoubtedly played a role in this decision!
http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard. ... 37-700.htm
Well, I guess the only thing better to make more money than trying to get little boys to come see the film would be to try and get EVERY little girl possible to come see the film. That would explain the pony anyway... lol.
Wouldn't it be a surprise if that's the twist Disney made on us now?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:10 pm
by robster16
sotiris2006 wrote:In France the film will also be renamed from "Rapunzel" to...-wait for it-..."Princess Rapunzel"
Disney France confirmed to me today that in spite of the US title change, the French title did not change and will remain "Princesse Raiponce" [Princess Rapunzel].
The success of the Princess and the Frog in France had undoubtedly played a role in this decision!
http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard. ... 37-700.htm
This is getting weirder by the minute! How will you make one fitting marketing strategy now, when the entire world is going to be using their own titles? LOL @ Disney's marketing staff... LOL
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:39 pm
by PatrickvD
Princess Rapunzel?.........
At this point things have gotten so tangled (yes pun intended, deal with it) that I'm just losing track of things altogether.
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:03 pm
by Dream Huntress
I remember that in Spain they did something similar with PATF, there the movie was called "Tiana y el Sapo" Tiana and the frog, they're reasoning? They wanted the audience to get to know the heroine as early as possible.
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:19 pm
by IagoZazu
Well that's strange. I guess Disney must think that here in America is where the box office really matters and that they can keep a girly title elsewhere. Little French boys must not care for girly films like American boys.
Rapunzel
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:39 pm
by Disney Duster
Babaloo wrote:I think Disney will end up basing a lot in commercials and advertisements on Flynn. That way Disney would be sort of tricking younger boys, whereas older audiences would know it was about Rapunzel. And I do think that many boys do know the story of the girl with long hair, and that "Rapunzel" as a title and would be much more recognizable to younger boys, resulting in them knowing that it was a princess movie. Kids are very easy to trick and fool. I don't think that many boys (I'm talking about younger ones again) would guess that Tangled is about Rapunzel. You have to remember younger kids don't watch commercials analytically but rather physically (don't know if this coming out the right way) meaning that they watch for jokes, and things like that, rather than story. Just a personal opinion.
But if they can get boys to like the film from the advertisement, then they don't need to change the title. No boy will know what Tangled is or if they want to see it from the name only. They can get excited by the jokes and adventure and Flynn in the advertisements, but the title change cannot keep Rapunzel herself out of the advertisements. If the younger boys won't like a movie merely from a princess' name, they won't like the movie from seeing a princess in the previews, either. They're gonna know, but maybe the jokes and adventure and Flynn will make them want to see it. Though boys liked seeing Cinderella and Snow White and Ariel before, so I don't see why they won't like Rapunzel, too!
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:54 pm
by jpanimation
So is it just renamed in the US? If so, I'll be importing the UK Blu-ray with the proper title in the movie.
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:02 pm
by Kyle
I got your key to attracting the boy demo right here.
http://i.imgur.com/EWhvE.jpg
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:06 pm
by Babaloo
Is it Disney in the US that chooses the titles for individual countries or is it the leaders of the individual international Disney companies (I hope that made sense)? Because this title thing really reminds me of Enchanted, whose french title is "Il etait une fois" which translates to "Once upon a time"... I guess European countries just like more fairy tale-ish titles (not a problem with me
).
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:59 pm
by Super Aurora
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:08 pm
by pap64
We are forgetting the adult demographic! The movie needs to add a lot of human drama in the same vein as Up so it gets repeat business thanks to great word of mouth from adults... They should rework the story and feature this as a story element...
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:00 am
by disneyboy20022
pap64 wrote:We are forgetting the adult demographic! The movie needs to add a lot of human drama in the same vein as Up so it gets repeat business thanks to great word of mouth from adults... They should rework the story and feature this as a story element...
I don't even wanna know where that picture came from..don't tell me....it was with Man-Ariel Mermaid on blueskydisney...again don't tell me.... I don't wanna know
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:25 am
by pap64
disneyboy20022 wrote:pap64 wrote:We are forgetting the adult demographic! The movie needs to add a lot of human drama in the same vein as Up so it gets repeat business thanks to great word of mouth from adults... They should rework the story and feature this as a story element...
I don't even wanna know where that picture came from..don't tell me....it was with Man-Ariel Mermaid on blueskydisney...again don't tell me.... I don't wanna know
The picture came from that infamous Mature Disney Princess phot shoot where the photographer portrayed the princesses in real life situations that differ greatly from their fairy tale endings, like Snow White having eight kids, Jasmine fighting the war against terrorism in Afghanistan and Rapunzel losing her hair due to treatment.
I admit it's very dark humor, but considering how the marketing is working hard to attract all other markets I figured "they might as well target the adult audience with some very dramatic moments".
My intentions were never to offend, and I apologize.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:58 am
by Disney's Divinity
Babaloo wrote:
Whoa whoa, hold on one second...The sword in the stone is about King Arthur ?!?!
Um...
yeah?
Anyway, the fact that they changed the title doesn't really bug me. The fact that they changed it to a worse, unfitting title does. I agree that Rapunzel is a fairly ugly name, but that doesn't make
Tangled a good title. I'm honestly not sure what title they could come up with that would be better, but it's not really my movie to put a title on. Maybe
The Princess and the Thief?
Nah. We saw how that 'princess' ruined one film already.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:34 am
by Babaloo
Disney's Divinity wrote:Babaloo wrote:
Whoa whoa, hold on one second...The sword in the stone is about King Arthur ?!?!
Um...
yeah?
I was just being sarcastic. You know because even though the movie isn't named after the main character or the sword, we all know its about Arthur. The same can be said about Rapunzel/Tangled. Now I know there's huge differences, like Sword in the Stone is based on a book with the same name, SitS has a lot more to do with the actual story, etc, etc... but we all know what the story is about. Even though "Tangled" doesn't refer to the actual story, it will still be the story of Rapunzel and we all will know that. The point to all these posts concerning me talking about the title is that I will not hate the movie or boycott it just because of one lame title change. Yah Disney IMO didn't pick the right choice, but it's something I have to live with, and I'm not going to be mad about it.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:34 pm
by robster16
Babaloo wrote:Disney's Divinity wrote:Um...
yeah?
I was just being sarcastic. You know because even though the movie isn't named after the main character or the sword, we all know its about Arthur. The same can be said about Rapunzel/Tangled. Now I know there's huge differences, like Sword in the Stone is based on a book with the same name, SitS has a lot more to do with the actual story, etc, etc... but we all know what the story is about. Even though "Tangled" doesn't refer to the actual story, it will still be the story of Rapunzel and we all will know that. The point to all these posts concerning me talking about the title is that I will not hate the movie or boycott it just because of one lame title change. Yah Disney IMO didn't pick the right choice, but it's something I have to live with, and I'm not going to be mad about it.
I'm not boycotting the movie. I'm VERY excited about the movie. I have a thing against that title, but as it seems (with all these international titles) I might be able to find a way around the title "Tangled"
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:44 pm
by Babaloo
I understand completely and I wasn't pin-pointing anyone. I also understand those who are signing petitions and the such are just very passionate about the film and really want this to do well, and I respect that completely.
Anyways now that Rapunzel is off the Disney Animation website, we could only expect to see new stuff soon, and I'm just trying to wait patiently.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:49 pm
by robster16
Babaloo wrote:I understand completely and I wasn't pin-pointing anyone. I also understand those who are signing petitions and the such are just very passionate about the film and really want this to do well, and I respect that completely.
Anyways now that Rapunzel is off the Disney Animation website, we could only expect to see new stuff soon, and I'm just trying to wait patiently.
I know, I can't WAIT for new visuals. Character designs, environments, the teaser trailer, it's all so exciting. If the trailer will be released with Alice, then it's 2 to 3 weeks tops, but by that time they would probably release another new visual or a teaser poster of some sort. I'm hoping by this weekend we'll have something new to see and discuss.
They have to get this show on the road. They are already late with promo and the new title will take some time before it's wedged into the general public's brain as a Disney fairytale classic, so chop chop, bring it ON!
