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I just brought this up because I thought about how most everyone thought it was so wonderful and that it seemed to raise the bar of expectations, as in the end scene there.

PixarFan2006 wrote:It's a good sequel, but I do agree it does rehash elements from the other two Toy Story movies (Lotso's origin and the opening sequence being the major examples).

Lotso's origin is not a rehash. I'll assume your trying to compare him to the prospector? Lotso was owned, played with then lost. the prospector was never sold (to a kid), never opened, never played with. That's a pretty big difference.

I'll admit there are some callbacks I would have rather they left out (namely music cues, and the use of the to infinity and beyond phrase) but overall it's the more nuanced story of the trilogy and that's what makes it tick. All those layers. All the pieces that had to go together to get woody to accept that His days with Andy were over, that it was time to move on.

I do prefer TS2 myself, but this is because it didn't have as many characters to juggle. You got more intimate with the characters. TS3 is more about two main groups, Andys toys and the sunny side toys being pit against each other by one tyrannical leader. Which is still a great story, it just didn't allow much room for character development or individuality.

As a movie on its own, TS3 is a good movie, but like everyone says, characters are given little attention to aside from Woody. If it was your first TS movie, you won't feel as connected with the characters as in the other films. But how they round out the series as a whole is brillant. The main reason it TICK is because of the nostalgia. If you were like me and was about to start college when this film came out, it connected on a completely different level.

combination of nostalgia and the pure raw emotion that's in the film.

In my opinion, Toy Story 3 is my least favorite of the Toy Story films. It has an incredible opening that pays tribute to the movies that came before it, and a stunningly beautiful ending that closes the first half of the saga very well. Yet, the middle is what fails to "click" on me. At times it is very melodramatic. One poster here once said that emotions in a Pixar movie are like receiving a bat to the head, and this movie showcases why. The scene at the furnace, while staged well, just seems to be designed to get people to CRY their hearts out (and it apparently worked).

The other reason Toy Story 3 fails to click with me is Lotso. I hate, hate, HATE this character. And it isn't because he is the villain. I hate it because he didn't receive the proper resolution based on the actions he created. Basically, he hated toy owners, manipulated everyone he knew to believe that, and pretty much created a dictatorship to benefit himself and not others, and the WORST he gets is that he becomes a toy that is chained to a truck. I don't know, maybe it is just me, it's just that the film builds him up as being a really bad character yet doesn't go as far with his punishment.

Sid, while a toy torturer, was really just a bratty kid with a lot of time on his hands, and he received a really bad punishment. Charles Muntz in Up was mainly trying to regain glory, and died in a gruesome manner. Same with Syndrome and such. I know Lotso didn't kill anyone, but he lied in the worst manner possible and manipulated everyone just for his personal gain. He deserved a better defeat than what the film gave him. But maybe it is just me.

pap64 wrote: The other reason Toy Story 3 fails to click with me is Lotso. I hate, hate, HATE this character. And it isn't because he is the villain. I hate it because he didn't receive the proper resolution based on the actions he created. Basically, he hated toy owners, manipulated everyone he knew to believe that, and pretty much created a dictatorship to benefit himself and not others, and the WORST he gets is that he becomes a toy that is chained to a truck. I don't know, maybe it is just me, it's just that the film builds him up as being a really bad character yet doesn't go as far with his punishment.

Yeah, but look at the other toys at the front of the truck. They're all deteriorated and falling to pieces from all of those years of being stuck on there. Eventually, Lotso himself will start deteriorating and lose his colour and strawberry scent. He is going to be treated 100000 times worse than the toys he put in the younger children's playroom. Thus, we will receive his just-deserts, in my opinion. It's going to be a very slow and painful punishment for Lotso. And for many people (and toys), it's probably much worse than immediately burning in the incinerator.

estefan wrote:

pap64 wrote: The other reason Toy Story 3 fails to click with me is Lotso. I hate, hate, HATE this character. And it isn't because he is the villain. I hate it because he didn't receive the proper resolution based on the actions he created. Basically, he hated toy owners, manipulated everyone he knew to believe that, and pretty much created a dictatorship to benefit himself and not others, and the WORST he gets is that he becomes a toy that is chained to a truck. I don't know, maybe it is just me, it's just that the film builds him up as being a really bad character yet doesn't go as far with his punishment.

Yeah, but look at the other toys at the front of the truck. They're all deteriorated and falling to pieces from all of those years of being stuck on there. Eventually, Lotso himself will start deteriorating and lose his colour and strawberry scent. He is going to be treated 100000 times worse than the toys he put in the younger children's playroom. Thus, we will receive his just-deserts, in my opinion. It's going to be a very slow and painful punishment for Lotso. And for many people (and toys), it's probably much worse than immediately burning in the incinerator.

And if he ever found Andy's/Bonnie's toys again, he will definitely want revenge on them.

Did Toy Story 3 remind anyone else of The Brave Little Toaster?

Kyle wrote:Lotso's origin is not a rehash. I'll assume your trying to compare him to the prospector? Lotso was owned, played with then lost. the prospector was never sold (to a kid), never opened, never played with. That's a pretty big difference.

I think the comparison between Lotso and Stinky Pete lies in the one thing they both have in common: they've felt ignored and otherwise unfairly treated. And so they've decided to make other toys that weren't ignored feel the pain that Lotso and Pete feel - by any means necessary.

I agree that Lotso and the prospector feel like the same character in a different situation. Both appear nice (with accent) at the beginning, before being revealed later. They're "punishment" is similar, with both being carried off by bad owners. Lotso does have a different background, but he doesn't act any different than the prospector. Only more developed.

Disney's Divinity wrote:I agree that Lotso and the prospector feel like the same character in a different situation. Both appear nice (with accent) at the beginning, before being revealed later. They're "punishment" is similar, with both being carried off by bad owners. Lotso does have a different background, but he doesn't act any different than the prospector. Only more developed.

I wish he wasn't more developed. The scene used to establish his backstory was laughably overwrought and if their intention was to arouse some sympathy for him, they failed utterly.

Whenever I see the scene near the end where Lotso’s yelling at all the other toys before he’s thrown in the dumpster, I cannot help laughing. Something about the way it’s said by the voice actor keeps me from taking it seriously.

qindarka wrote:

Disney's Divinity wrote:I agree that Lotso and the prospector feel like the same character in a different situation. Both appear nice (with accent) at the beginning, before being revealed later. They're "punishment" is similar, with both being carried off by bad owners. Lotso does have a different background, but he doesn't act any different than the prospector. Only more developed.

I wish he wasn't more developed. The scene used to establish his backstory was laughably overwrought and if their intention was to arouse some sympathy for him, they failed utterly.

Especially after his is rescued he leaves them for dead.

Disney's Divinity wrote:Whenever I see the scene near the end where Lotso’s yelling at all the other toys before he’s thrown in the dumpster, I cannot help laughing. Something about the way it’s said by the voice actor keeps me from taking it seriously.

Was also annoyed by Barbie's silly speech. I know that they intended to subvert the dumb blonde stereotype by making her seem so intelligent with her talk of representative government but it just feels like she is reading out a textbook.

disneyboy20022 wrote:
Especially after his is rescued he leaves them for dead.

That isn't the problem since it happens later. The intention there was to offer him the chance of redemption and then having him fail at it. Was a good decision, I never felt at all sorry for him and it's only fitting to his character that he doesn't redeem himself so suddenly.

pap64 wrote:The other reason Toy Story 3 fails to click with me is Lotso. I hate, hate, HATE this character. And it isn't because he is the villain. I hate it because he didn't receive the proper resolution based on the actions he created. Basically, he hated toy owners, manipulated everyone he knew to believe that, and pretty much created a dictatorship to benefit himself and not others, and the WORST he gets is that he becomes a toy that is chained to a truck. I don't know, maybe it is just me, it's just that the film builds him up as being a really bad character yet doesn't go as far with his punishment.

The only redeeming thing about Lotso is the interesting aspect to make a teddybear as a villain. Otherwise, his arc was poorly executed. Considering his traumatic beackstory, he had a lot of potential to develop himself, so I was dissapointed that the writers made him so one-dimentional.

Otherwise, to answer the topic. I think "Toy Story 3" is a fine movie, but it's far from a masterpiece.

The emotions in this film make it tick. One goes on an emotional roller coaster in this film. From the flashbacks and showing Andy growing up (you can't help not getting emotional during that scene) to laughing, to the ending (who doesn't get choked up at the end?) Of the three Toy Story films I watch this one the least because of how emotionally exhausted I get watching it.

So, I'm on a mission to find this rare poster in high res. (the English version has buzz as the leader)

The only thing that has it in a decent resolution that I know of is the blu ray gallery.
Does anyone have a copy of the blu ray and have the ability to take a full 1080p direct feed screenshot of this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/ ... G_1330.jpg

Of course if you have another source that would be great as well. It just needs to be larger than this tiny thing.

Kyle wrote:So, I'm on a mission to find this rare poster in high res. (the English version has buzz as the leader)

The only thing that has it in a decent resolution that I know of is the blu ray gallery.
Does anyone have a copy of the blu ray and have the ability to take a full 1080p direct feed screenshot of this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/ ... G_1330.jpg

Of course if you have another source that would be great as well. It just needs to be larger than this tiny thing.

Will see what I can do.

Here's the image you wanted from the web.



And here's the image from the Blu-ray. Sadly I don't think you can access a higher-resolution version of it, it's encoded in a video.

(This is a preview, click on it)

Aww, bummer. Well, thanks anyway. I guess its better than what I had, by a tiny bit.

So the video itself is sub 720p? Seems lower res than I would expect.