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Posted: **Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:08 pm**

RyougaLolakie wrote:I'm getting all of them (I might) for this holiday season, if only CD3 will include some bonus material just like CD2. Without bonus materials, it'll become a barebones treasure set.

But even without bonus materials, it's still part of a complete set of DD shorts.

Posted: **Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:36 pm**

RyougaLolakie wrote:I'm getting all of them (I might) for this holiday season, if only CD3 will include some bonus material just like CD2. Without bonus materials, it'll become a barebones treasure set.

Well, if you were to look at the Amazon site on CD3 and click on the DVD cover icon, you would notice that there is a red label on the cover reading: "Features Never-Before-Seen Material On DVD". So it's possible that bonus features will be seen; they just haven't been solidified yet.

Posted: **Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:45 pm**

Big Disney Fan wrote:
RyougaLolakie wrote:I'm getting all of them (I might) for this holiday season, if only CD3 will include some bonus material just like CD2. Without bonus materials, it'll become a barebones treasure set.
Well, if you were to look at the Amazon site on CD3 and click on the DVD cover icon, you would notice that there is a red label on the cover reading: "Features Never-Before-Seen Material On DVD". So it's possible that bonus features will be seen; they just haven't been solidified yet.

Well, according to Julie Neal, the author of "The Complete Guide to Walt Disney World on Amazon.com:

" Bonus features include a retrospective of Donald's movie cameos and an interview with Ruben Procopio, a Disney character sculptor. Like the other Treasures box sets, these tins are individually numbered, come with a certificate of authenticity and come with a collectible lithograph, this time a reproduction of the poster art for 1948's "Inferior Decorator." Also like before, the discs are hosted by film historian Leonard Maltin."

Very interesting to see Ruben Procopio gets an interview about Donald and a retrospective of Dondald's movie cameos seems worth it.

Posted: **Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:58 pm**

RyougaLolakie wrote:" Bonus features include a retrospective of Donald's movie cameos and an interview with Ruben Procopio, a Disney character sculptor. Like the other Treasures box sets, these tins are individually numbered, come with a certificate of authenticity and come with a collectible lithograph, this time a reproduction of the poster art for 1948's "Inferior Decorator." Also like before, the discs are hosted by film historian Leonard Maltin."

Very interesting to see Ruben Procopio gets an interview about Donald and a retrospective of Dondald's movie cameos seems worth it.

So are those the only bonus features? Or are we just given a small taste? At least they mention the movie cameos, something that should've happened in the second DVD set because he has not just cameos but full-blown appearances in two movies released during that timeframe.

I'm still rooting for another TV episode of the anthology series. I hope it's "This Is Your Life, Donald Duck". The synopsis is as follows:

This animated spoof of the popular TV series This Is Your Life (the creator of which, Ralph Edwards, is given special acknowledgement in the closing credits) first aired on the Walt Disney Presents TV anthology. Jiminy Cricket is all set to give a testimonial to his cartoon comrade Donald Duck -- but alas, Donald is relaxing at home and has no intention of leaving. Literally dragged to the Disney studios by his nephews Huey, Dewey and Louie, an outraged Donald relaxes a bit when he realizes that he's the guest of honor. The rest of the episode combines newly animated footage with clips from vintage theatrical cartoons, as Donald's life is recounted by such colleagues as Daisy Duck (who explains why she and Donald never married), Chip 'n' Dale, Mickey Mouse, Pluto, and even a few guest stars who never made a picture with the Duck, including The Three Little Pigs, Lady and the Tramp, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:36 am**

Found the following interesting thing in the reviews of the Oswald set.

Julie Neal, author of The Complete Guide to Walt Disney World on Amazon.com wrote:This two-disc set features restored versions of all the Disney Oswald cartoons.

I always believed that not all 26 Oswald cartoons made by Disney survived and that some were considered lost. If this information is true, this would be great news! Even more considering that Julie mentions at the beginning of the review that there are 26 Oswald cartoons made by Disney.

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:28 am**

As recently as April this year, there were definitely still a large number of Oswalds considered lost. The likelihood of all 15 missing films turning up between April and now has to be very very small.

Ms Neal may have written a book about WDW, but her animation history seems a bit shaky. (If you're going to mention Rudy Ising, why not go the whole hog and namecheck Hugh Harman too?) And frankly, I'm not sure I'd want to trust the word of anyone who thinks that "[The Oswald films] may be too primitive to enjoy for their entertainment value alone".

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:41 am**

MK Sharp wrote:As recently as April this year, there were definitely still a large number of Oswalds considered lost. The likelihood of all 15 missing films turning up between April and now has to be very very small.

Ms Neal may have written a book about WDW, but her animation history seems a bit shaky. (If you're going to mention Rudy Ising, why not go the whole hog and namecheck Hugh Harman too?) And frankly, I'm not sure I'd want to trust the word of anyone who thinks that "[The Oswald films] may be too primitive to enjoy for their entertainment value alone".

I thought they had 15 and 11 were missing. They did aquire some from Universal. But no matter concept is still the same.

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:58 am**

I intend to get all three volumes on Release Day. I've got all the other volumes, and am looking forward to these.

Regarding the gold treatment for Oswald, I lean toward keeping the whole collection silver.

Still, the fact that Oswald has been restored to the Disney library, and this marks his grand Disney entrance to the modern world, I think the gold packaging is deserved.

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:23 pm**

I 2nd the Gold cover for Oswald, though I expected it to be silver (like the others) I wouldn't mind if the animated editions got diff. colors too.

Oswald is defintly on my list along with Donald Duck, what's Oswald's bonus feats again?? I heard they're adding UB Iwerks' documentary.

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:45 pm**

I'll be getting them all with Disneyland taking top priority.

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:02 pm**

Big Disney Fan wrote:
RyougaLolakie wrote:" Bonus features include a retrospective of Donald's movie cameos and an interview with Ruben Procopio, a Disney character sculptor. Like the other Treasures box sets, these tins are individually numbered, come with a certificate of authenticity and come with a collectible lithograph, this time a reproduction of the poster art for 1948's "Inferior Decorator." Also like before, the discs are hosted by film historian Leonard Maltin."

Very interesting to see Ruben Procopio gets an interview about Donald and a retrospective of Dondald's movie cameos seems worth it.
So are those the only bonus features? Or are we just given a small taste? At least they mention the movie cameos, something that should've happened in the second DVD set because he has not just cameos but full-blown appearances in two movies released during that timeframe.

I'm still rooting for another TV episode of the anthology series. I hope it's "This Is Your Life, Donald Duck". The synopsis is as follows:

This animated spoof of the popular TV series This Is Your Life (the creator of which, Ralph Edwards, is given special acknowledgement in the closing credits) first aired on the Walt Disney Presents TV anthology. Jiminy Cricket is all set to give a testimonial to his cartoon comrade Donald Duck -- but alas, Donald is relaxing at home and has no intention of leaving. Literally dragged to the Disney studios by his nephews Huey, Dewey and Louie, an outraged Donald relaxes a bit when he realizes that he's the guest of honor. The rest of the episode combines newly animated footage with clips from vintage theatrical cartoons, as Donald's life is recounted by such colleagues as Daisy Duck (who explains why she and Donald never married), Chip 'n' Dale, Mickey Mouse, Pluto, and even a few guest stars who never made a picture with the Duck, including The Three Little Pigs, Lady and the Tramp, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

I'm not sure if those are the only bonus features that are there but I'm still rooting for "This is Your Life, Donald Duck" as well. GOD WILLING!!!!

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:57 pm**

MK Sharp wrote:As recently as April this year, there were definitely still a large number of Oswalds considered lost. The likelihood of all 15 missing films turning up between April and now has to be very very small.

Ms Neal may have written a book about WDW, but her animation history seems a bit shaky. (If you're going to mention Rudy Ising, why not go the whole hog and namecheck Hugh Harman too?) And frankly, I'm not sure I'd want to trust the word of anyone who thinks that "[The Oswald films] may be too primitive to enjoy for their entertainment value alone".

Did some research and the number that survives is in fact 15 for sure including the following. However, there are rumours that Disney was in fact able to track down several more in private collections.

Trolley Troubles - WD & UNIV
Oh Teacher WD& UNIV
Great Guns WD / and in private collections
The Mechanical Cow WD & UNIV / and in private collections
All Wet / Universal only
The Ocean Hop WD & UNIV / and in private collections
Rival Romeos - private collection only (16mm)
Bright Lights - WD/ and in private collection
Oh What A Night - WD/ and in private collection
Sky Scrappers - private collection only (16mm)
The Fox Chase - private collection only (16mm)

HOT DOG
RIDE 'EM PLOWBOY

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:23 pm**

Mr. Toad wrote:Did some research and the number that survives is in fact 15 for sure including the following.

What's the source for that? I know the stardard 11 as listed in Merritt & Kaufman, which have been confirmed as existing for years.

There were rumours posted on Jim Hill that Hot Dog and Ride Em Plowboy may have been held by private collectors, but I've been since told that that was, sadly, nothing but a rumour. (It would be great, though, if they were unrumoured within the last few months!) There's a fragment of Ozzie Of The Mounted which apparently does survive and may well surface on the Treasure.

Of course, I'd be over the moon if a few more have turned up just in time for the DVD. The more Ozzie the better, I say!
(In fact, I think I'd pass out in a dead faint if Rickety Gin and The Banker's Daughter have been located.)

Posted: **Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:30 pm**

With Disney having recently banned smoking from movies, I have to wonder: will Donald's Happy Birthday be removed, or more likely just put in the "From the Vault" section?

Posted: **Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:07 am**

MK Sharp wrote:As recently as April this year, there were definitely still a large number of Oswalds considered lost. The likelihood of all 15 missing films turning up between April and now has to be very very small.

Ms Neal may have written a book about WDW, but her animation history seems a bit shaky. (If you're going to mention Rudy Ising, why not go the whole hog and namecheck Hugh Harman too?) And frankly, I'm not sure I'd want to trust the word of anyone who thinks that "[The Oswald films] may be too primitive to enjoy for their entertainment value alone".

You're right on that one. Well, as long as we get what's left of Oswald in a great restored way! I will buy the set nevertheless.
I think the Ub Iwerks documentary will be a sufficient fill for the second disc...

Posted: **Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:46 am**

I posted a comment on Julie Neal's review on Amazon.com:

I wrote:Is it confirmed that all 26 Disney Oswalds will be in the set? That would be awesome, as I believed some of the cartoons were considered lost.

and Julie replied with the following:

Julie Neal on Amazon.com wrote:I have heard that it does, but haven't been able to confirm that yet. The first Oswald short was supposed to have been lost, along with maybe a few others.

So I guess we will have to wait and see till the set actually is released this December or until Disney will confirm the complete contents of the set in some way.

Posted: **Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:57 am**

The uncertainty is certainly exciting.

I must say that while it would be lovely to think that they've found maybe one or two more films to add to the collection (although I wouldn't necessarily even expect that much), to have located enough of them so that the set is complete or near to it would be one of the greatest feats in lost film recovery ever.

Posted: **Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:49 am**

Big Disney Fan wrote:With Disney having recently banned smoking from movies, I have to wonder: will Donald's Happy Birthday be removed, or more likely just put in the "From the Vault" section?

They've included basically everything else in the Treasures so far, so I can hardly imagine they'd do anything worse than put this in the "Vault" section.

It'll be very interesting to see what they've come up with for the Oswald set - if it's going to be a 2-disc set I'd say there'd have to be more than just 11, or even 15, Oswald shorts. Miracles...?

Posted: **Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:24 am**

MK - When they were originally talking about the set as part of the Legacy series I thought I remembered seeing where some of the Lantz and Mintz cartoons would be included.

Posted: **Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:56 pm**

I remember Bill Cotter disclosing that one of the treasures of last wave could have gone from one theme to another depending on how many master copies they found of a particular theme. I assumed he was referring to what became YHWD. Now with Disneyland the theme of the new wave, what speculations are behind possible Disneyland tv shows could be included?

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