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ajmrowland wrote:

GreatGreg wrote: Isn't that what we all knew they would say anyway?

I've seen all the edits and it's not enough to take away from the enjoyment of the film. A colour change here, a missing hand there, sure they don't make sense, but who really cares? I would say, take a split-second and remove the eye crusts from your eyes when the end of POYW comes up and you won't even see the scene swap, if it bothers you that much. The majority of people, even including Disney enthusiasts, won't know or care about the changes.

However, the remastering is such a kick-ass job, you would be pretty dumb to overlook all of the improvements that they have made with this 3D BD release, to be caught up with a few minor changes.

Then again, complainers gotta complain.

Don't get me wrong. I still plan on buying it anyway guys. I just thought their e-mail response was kinda silly. None of these errors have convinced me to cancel my pre-order. Like I've said before, I honestly wouldn't have noticed this if it wasn't pointed out already. I think canceling pre-orders because of this is too extreme for my taste.

However I did contact the guy who runs The Digital Bits to see if he has heard about it. I think it's a dumb mistake Disney made on this, however it's not enough to make me want to boycott the film, but to each their own.

Well, disneyboy20022, this isn't necessarily the first time people canceled their pre-order on an upcoming Blu-ray release. Remember when the Star Wars saga Blu-ray release was only a few weeks away? Someone leaked the alterations on that release online and it caused a bit of chaos among the people (Star Wars fan or not), not to mention some pre-order cancellations.

I'm still hoping that what the person I spoke with on the hotline said was true and that they were looking into the whole error fiasco and they would try to fix it before the Internet blows up.

DisneyJedi wrote:Well, disneyboy20022, this isn't necessarily the first time people canceled their pre-order on an upcoming Blu-ray release. Remember when the Star Wars saga Blu-ray release was only a few weeks away? Someone leaked the alterations on that release online and it caused a bit of chaos among the people (Star Wars fan or not), not to mention some pre-order cancellations.

I remember that. I still ordered that too. Personally I feel that Darth Vader scene at the end of Jedi was far worse than this.

Personally, I saw no problem with the Darth Vader 'big no' thing in ROTJ, even if it worked better with him silently taking down the Emperor.

I dont know if this has been covered before... but what is the change in Daughters of Triton? Is it just the change in color, or is there something else?

Marce82 wrote:I dont know if this has been covered before... but what is the change in Daughters of Triton? Is it just the change in color, or is there something else?

Yes, it's back to blue (the PE had it green).

GreatGreg wrote: Isn't that what we all knew they would say anyway?

I've seen all the edits and it's not enough to take away from the enjoyment of the film. A colour change here, a missing hand there, sure they don't make sense, but who really cares? I would say, take a split-second and remove the eye crusts from your eyes when the end of POYW comes up and you won't even see the scene swap, if it bothers you that much. The majority of people, even including Disney enthusiasts, won't know or care about the changes.

However, the remastering is such a kick-ass job, you would be pretty dumb to overlook all of the improvements that they have made with this 3D BD release, to be caught up with a few minor changes.

Then again, complainers gotta complain.

You don't get to say what gives joy to others. And you don't seem to understand that for many, the integrity of the film and the film makers' choices is important-- whether or not people would have noticed the changes (which, by the way, is a moot argument because they already have noticed the changes-- and that can't be undone). And frankly, if you don't feel that the original order of shots isn't important-- the very composition of the scene-- then, you undermine the entire filmmaking process. Now that's what I'd call pretty dumb.

Is there anyone else here who didn't receive the TLM score?

Sicoe Vlad wrote:Is there anyone else here who didn't receive the TLM score?

I just PMed you

rodis wrote:

Sicoe Vlad wrote:Is there anyone else here who didn't receive the TLM score?

I just PMed you

I have some problems with the inbox. Just leave your email address here, and I'll send it. I don't know what happened, but I can't see any new messages in the inbox folder, even though I received emails telling me I received these messages

EDIT:
No need, I found the message and I sent the score. enjoy!

GreatGreg wrote: I've seen all the edits and it's not enough to take away from the enjoyment of the film. A colour change here, a missing hand there, sure they don't make sense, but who really cares? I would say, take a split-second and remove the eye crusts from your eyes when the end of POYW comes up and you won't even see the scene swap, if it bothers you that much. The majority of people, even including Disney enthusiasts, won't know or care about the changes.

Then again, complainers gotta complain.

I definitely would agree with you on that... though I wouldn't mind this except:
1) The swap shots were unintentional and were an error that did not get fixed before passing Quality test when restoring scene-by-scene after individual scene restorations.
2) Disney stated this error and then stated that they believe that it wouldn't affect the overall quality.

In regards to the 2nd, it just doesn't feel right, as Disney is well known for providing top-notch and reliable (though a bit inconsistent) restorations to their classic films. With this edit now being left in there, it would now feel out-of-place due to the syncing and the placement of the direction where Ariel lands onto the... not sure what I could call that... seat. Whatever.
Anyway, I know it's not "Star Wars change" frenzy and certainly far from being a deal-breaker, but this film was known for a quarter of a century... most of the people restoring would have known every scene that would go in order. (even if they didn't, would they have a tracklist of some kind?) Even the 2006 restoration, though that was weaker than the 2013 version, at least didn't make that mistake. The other puzzling factor: were Musker and Clements involved in this restoration? If so, did they actually look at the final product and gave an "OK" to the error? If the directors said anything about that, then I would at least be ok with it. If no clarification... sorry, gotta keep complaining for a bit there.

UmbrellaFish wrote: And you don't seem to understand that for many, the integrity of the film and the film makers' choices is important-- whether or not people would have noticed the changes (which, by the way, is a moot argument because they already have noticed the changes-- and that can't be undone). And frankly, if you don't feel that the original order of shots isn't important-- the very composition of the scene-- then, you undermine the entire filmmaking process. Now that's what I'd call pretty dumb.

Don't fully blame the user. One must understand that there are people in this world that actually don't focus on the integrity of the filmmaking (mainly kids- the selling point of the Disney company nowadays) as much as some do. Some just see film as an entertaining medium that takes away stress from the real world, rather as a means of focuing on its artistic views or deep messages inside the story/animation/cinematography/history. Unfortunately, Disney somehow is viewing this approach, thus is probably why they won't take immediate action or just leave the error as is.

I think it's just the audacity of Disney's response, "We don't think it will affect anything really for you, so get lost". It is such a beyond stupid statement for them to have made - 'Editing is a complex process blah blah blah' - yes, of course it is, but there is no excuse for the swapped shots. There should be more quality control involved. And then when it is pointed out by caring fans, they are "oh well, never mind".

I don't think it's about the actual mistake in the film, it's the unwillingness of Disney to listen and help, while understanding the questions put to them by ardent and loyal fans.

rodis wrote:

Sicoe Vlad wrote:Is there anyone else here who didn't receive the TLM score?

I just PMed you

I just PM'd you too .

GreatGreg wrote:Isn't that what we all knew they would say anyway?

I've seen all the edits and it's not enough to take away from the enjoyment of the film. A colour change here, a missing hand there, sure they don't make sense, but who really cares? I would say, take a split-second and remove the eye crusts from your eyes when the end of POYW comes up and you won't even see the scene swap, if it bothers you that much. The majority of people, even including Disney enthusiasts, won't know or care about the changes.

However, the remastering is such a kick-ass job, you would be pretty dumb to overlook all of the improvements that they have made with this 3D BD release, to be caught up with a few minor changes.

Then again, complainers gotta complain.

We already got your e-mail, Disneycorp, no need to make a post saying the same thing.

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:And then when it is pointed out by caring fans, they are "oh well, never mind".

So, essentially, Disney is just one huge fast-food employee--you know, the one who forgets the cheese, puts on onions you didn't ask for, and then spits in your food for good measure.

Disney's Divinity wrote:So, essentially, Disney is just one huge fast-food employee--you know, the one who forgets the cheese, puts on onions you didn't ask for, and then spits in your food for good measure.

Just scrape off the onions if you don't like them, they won't distract from the overall experience of the meal. And sorry about the cheese, but what do you expect? Most people won't even notice such things and are just happy to have one of our delicious, world-famous burgers.
And I guarantee you won't notice the spit.

enigmawing wrote:Just scrape off the onions if you don't like them, they won't distract from the overall experience of the meal. And sorry about the cheese, but what do you expect? Most people won't even notice such things and are just happy to have one of our delicious, world-famous burgers.

enigmawing wrote:Just scrape off the onions if you don't like them, they won't distract from the overall experience of the meal.

Being frank here when onions are found in my burger or Sasuage Roll I can't stand it. Hate them. xD


So LIES

A " Onion " Would be like Disney removing The Poor Unfortunate Souls song and replacing it with Justin Bieber's " Baby " Instead.

If food's on the subject here: at least Chef Louis would take better care of his cookery more then Disney could nowadays.

I'm pretty much done with double dipping on Disney Blu-Rays. I didn't care to upgrade my copy of Peter Pan and I don't care enough about the other titles to upgrade. I'm fine with my DVDs and I don't want to upgrade just to get DMR points and have the movie end up gathering dust (I'd probably just watch it once).

I agree that if you are not watching your Disney BluRays, you probably shouldn't be buying them.