Re: Wish
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:34 am
So then, if I understand correctly, Asha will be half Iberian on her father’s side and half Berber on her mother’s side. Hmm...
Amazigh* Berber is considered kinda offensive since the name comes from Barbarian and violent and savagecarolinakid wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:34 am So then, if I understand correctly, Asha will be half Iberian on her father’s side and half Berber on her mother’s side. Hmm...
She's a tuareg, they exist in Morocco but they're more common in Níger, Mauritania, Lybia etccarolinakid wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:18 am I remember the Walt Disney short The Blue Men of Morocco from 1957. It was paired with the 1957 rerelease of Cinderella.
It was part of the studios’ People and Places series, a collection of 17 shorts that were released between 1953 and 1960.
So Asha’s mother comes from this Berber culture perhaps...
With the Spanish inspired setting, I’ve been wondering that, too, re: Ferdinand and Isabella.D82 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:26 pmOne thing from the book that's a bit more spoilery is that Queen Amaya was going to be an evil coconspirator with Magnifico at first. You can read about it at this point of the flipthrough video. I wonder if they took inspiration from the Catholic Monarchs to create the royal couple.
Page 126 of the art book says Amaya's cat, who was in an earlier version, was named Charo...not Amaya.Pokenonbinary wrote: also in the book it says that her original name was Charo, but she can still be Charo Amaya
Amaya can be a name (normally written Amaia) but its mostly a last name, so she can be Charo Amaya
That would have made the cat super iconiccarolinakid wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:29 pm I’m kind of glad..... for many people the name Charo reminds us of the Spanish actress, singer, flamenco guitarist and “Cuchi-Cuchi” lady!
There's a clear reference to Cinderella there at the beginning.reee9948 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:26 pm New tv spot https://twitter.com/portalwishbr/status ... 6143028566
Thanks for posting all that info from the book! It's curious that some of the things we speculated were actually considered by the filmmakers at some point. Asha having her own community which is being sought by Magnifico is similar to something Farerb said, and we also theorized the queen could be the real ruler of Rosas and Asha and her friends would help her regain the throne. Some also thought she would be evil, which she was going to be initially. It's also good to have confirmation Sabino is Asha's great-grandfather, and not her grandfather.blackcauldron85 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:21 am I just started reading the art book (I flipped through it when it came a couple nights ago). I'll post more (although I know cool things like Star's evolution have already been posted!) if I see something, but I wanted to share this:
Page 9 (Foreward):Many ideas came and went, making space for what we have on-screen today. From our hero initially living in a remote, hidden town, to our teens being a group of rebels hanging out in a hidden lair, to Amaya being a hundred-year-old outcast queen wishing to restore her rule-- so many ideas ended up being cut or reworked."
You're welcome! I have more notes to share from what I read yesterday, and I haven't finished reading it, so more to come.D82 wrote: Thanks for posting all that info from the book! It's curious that some of the things we speculated were actually considered by the filmmakers at some point.
I agree with you. I don't hear SOtL, which I loved. It's a better version of "You're Welcome" mixed with "Shiny." I like it in a way, but I thought Magnifico would be more like Jafar, tbh. He's like a sillier Gaston going by the song.Sotiris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:58 pm I don't see the similarity to "Snuff Out the Light". That one was more theatrical, grander in scale, with a more cabaret sound. This one is much smaller in scope and has a very mid-'00s pop sound. Its sound is reminiscent of songs you would find in Disney Channel Original Movies. However, I do see the similarity to "You're Welcome", but not in terms of melody or sound. The rapping at the beginning and the "hook" of the song—the frequent repetition of the phrase 'this is the thanks I get'— makes believe the songwriters were trying to imitate LMM's style to a degree.
I don't hate the songs, but the weakest part for me is that the chorus of both it and "This Wish" repeat one line over and over. That's not surprising though considering the composer is a pop artist.Marce82 wrote: Why does it feel like the songs have zero structure?