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They're a bunch of cowards! They're scared of doing hand drawn animation because of Bob Iger, Jay Rasulo, and those evil greedy executives. And I don't know if I can trust Tom Staggs as the new CEO unless if he has love hand drawn. Well, he better be.Warm Regards wrote:Ah, Reddit AMAs. The perfect balance on insightful inquiries and anonymous animosity.
As for the side stepping, I am sure some higher up is previewing and filtering the answers. Nothing is ever purely confidential, except maybe a PM...
But even then they probably wouldn't read them.
So I guess the higher ups consensus is, "2D is awesome! As long as it goes to making more CG films."
So they're cool with wasting an animator's talent and potential?Warm Regards wrote:So I guess the higher ups consensus is, "2D is awesome! As long as it goes to making more CG films."
Thank you for showing that to us. It's very nice. But I don't think it'll help our Disney losing hand drawn animation crisis, but thank you just the same.SWillie! wrote:A little off topic, but thought I'd post in here since everyone here is obviously a big hand-drawn fan.
Steve Thompson is a Disney artist currently working as a designer for the Disney Store. He started his career as a 2D animator on movies like Hunchback, Mulan, and Tarzan. When traditional was shut down after Home on the Range, he went to Disney Store where he still works completely traditionally designing stuff like ornaments, figurines, and other merchandise. I absolutely love his stuff, and even though it's not animation, he's definitely keeping the art of pencil lines alive. Check out his work here.
One of my favorites:
You really think so?estefan wrote:So, on the Google Hangout yesterday, they actually mentioned that a hand-drawn animated feature could potentially happen in the future and that they're always working with hand-drawn, specifically mentioning either old characters and even new ones. Which I think means that at the moment, they're experimenting with hand-drawn on short films which have a strong chance of convincing executives that a full-length feature is worth investing in. I actually think Get a Horse winning the Oscar would do well to convince them that there is an audience for it.
We said the same thing about Paperman but nothing came out of it. I don't think Get a Horse winning the Oscar will increase the chances of Disney producing a hand-drawn feature in the slightest.estefan wrote:I actually think Get a Horse winning the Oscar would do well to convince them that there is an audience for it.
The Special Projects division doesn't do theatrical shorts but educational shorts, commercials, that sort of thing. They've always been doing that. Nothing has really changed on that front. They're not experimenting with hand-drawn animation or anything like that.estefan wrote:So, on the Google Hangout yesterday, they actually mentioned that a hand-drawn animated feature could potentially happen in the future and that they're always working with hand-drawn, specifically mentioning either old characters and even new ones. Which I think means that at the moment, they're experimenting with hand-drawn on short films which have a strong chance of convincing executives that a full-length feature is worth investing in.
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7wLH1ir0yoQ: What kind of future do you see for 2D animation in the industry?
Dave Bossert: I have to tell you, heading up the Special Projects group at Walt Disney Animation Studios, we are doing tons of 2D animation with a lot of our classic characters as well as our contemporary characters whether it’s from Beauty and the Beast or Aladdin… We’re still doing 2D animation. The studio doesn’t currently have a 2D feature in the pipeline. Whether there will be one at some point in the future is anybody’s guess. Right now, they don’t but it doesn’t mean we’re not doing 2D. We still have 2D artists working at the studio, we are just not doing a feature film.
You got to realize when you make films… We’re making films at Disney to appeal to the widest possible audience so the audience in some sense is driving what we are going to see.
We'll have to wait and see, I suppose. More shorts are much more likely to happen than a feature.unprincess wrote:Sotiris, you really think nothing will come out of Paperman? not even more hybrid shorts?
I totally missed this. Um, it looks cute, though I dont think I could watch a whole feature lenght film in this style. I like stuff with more prominent graphic linework(like Paperman.) I do like how morose the lil piggy's voiceover is.Warm Regards wrote:
In semi-related news, two Pixar artists are making a short that seems to be utilizing the hand-drawn/ CGI hybrid technique. (At least, this video shows some CG blocking with the drawings added after.)
Source: http://www.rotoscopers.com/2014/02/07/b ... -released/
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTd3J1GFC5M[/youtube]Two Pixar visual development artists, Robert Kondo and Dice Tsutsumi, have come together to release their own animated short titled The Dam Keeper. The first trailer and a clip of the short were just released in time for the short’s premiere at the Berlin Film Festival later this month.
Just you wait, Sotiris. Just you wait. Disney will do another hand drawn animated movie. You'll see.Sotiris wrote:We said the same thing about Paperman but nothing came out of it. I don't think Get a Horse winning the Oscar will increase the chances of Disney producing a hand-drawn feature in the slightest.estefan wrote:I actually think Get a Horse winning the Oscar would do well to convince them that there is an audience for it.
That's true. And if you think about it, all the new WDAS shorts (Ballad of Nessie, Paperman, and Get A Horse!) have been hand-drawn or have hand-drawn elements in them. I just hope that the short that is attached to Big Hero 6 (I'm pretty sure there'll be one), is also hand-drawn so Disney is more confident in releasing a hand-drawn feature in the future.estefan wrote:So, on the Google Hangout yesterday, they actually mentioned that a hand-drawn animated feature could potentially happen in the future and that they're always working with hand-drawn, specifically mentioning either old characters and even new ones. Which I think means that at the moment, they're experimenting with hand-drawn on short films which have a strong chance of convincing executives that a full-length feature is worth investing in. I actually think Get a Horse winning the Oscar would do well to convince them that there is an audience for it.
Thank you. I just don't understand why Sotiris is always a hope killer.MovieMan995 wrote:That's true. And if you think about it, all the new WDAS shorts (Ballad of Nessie, Paperman, and Get A Horse!) have been hand-drawn or have hand-drawn elements in them. I just hope that the short that is attached to Big Hero 6 (I'm pretty sure there'll be one), is also hand-drawn so Disney is more confident in releasing a hand-drawn feature in the future.estefan wrote:So, on the Google Hangout yesterday, they actually mentioned that a hand-drawn animated feature could potentially happen in the future and that they're always working with hand-drawn, specifically mentioning either old characters and even new ones. Which I think means that at the moment, they're experimenting with hand-drawn on short films which have a strong chance of convincing executives that a full-length feature is worth investing in. I actually think Get a Horse winning the Oscar would do well to convince them that there is an audience for it.
I don't know how I say this, but, Animators,Q: What kind of future do you see for 2D animation in the industry?
Dave Bossert: I have to tell you, heading up the Special Projects group at Walt Disney Animation Studios, we are doing tons of 2D animation with a lot of our classic characters as well as our contemporary characters whether it’s from Beauty and the Beast or Aladdin… We’re still doing 2D animation. The studio doesn’t currently have a 2D feature in the pipeline. Whether there will be one at some point in the future is anybody’s guess. Right now, they don’t but it doesn’t mean we’re not doing 2D. We still have 2D artists working at the studio, we are just not doing a feature film.
You got to realize when you make films… We’re making films at Disney to appeal to the widest possible audience so the audience in some sense is driving what we are going to see.