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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:13 pm
by PatrickvD
Poody wrote:
PatrickvD wrote: The additional Mermaid songs, Sister Act and... that Phantom sequel are awful.
You really think Sister Act is awful? I thought some of those lyrics were amazing and hilarious.... :lol:
Sister Act is in the hit/miss category for me. Love Never Dies IS awful though. And with the exception of "I Want the Good Times Back" most of the new Mermaid songs are kinda meh... Menken is in top form, I mean "Her Voice" is hauntingly beautiful, but the lyrics are so plain and uninspired.

Tangled

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:19 pm
by Disney Duster
Alan Menken, didn't he say time and again that Glenn Slater was the person he worked with he felt was closest to Howard Ashman in, I suppose, lyrics and bond?
bradk wrote:was that the songs *occasionally* rise to the level of 'A Whole New World' and 'Gaston.' Now while I do disagree with this statement, I find it odd that Gaston was chosen from all of the songs in Beauty and the Beast, which is arguably one of the best Disney soundtracks of all time. While Gaston is fabulous and a real credit to Ashman's writing skills, I'm not sure it's what you want your anthem to be when you have songs like Belle and the title song which are far more epic.
I think they are saying the song sung in the tavern with the thugs is like the song "Gaston" sung in a tavern with macho men.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:44 pm
by Poody
PatrickvD wrote: Sister Act is in the hit/miss category for me. Love Never Dies IS awful though. And with the exception of "I Want the Good Times Back" most of the new Mermaid songs are kinda meh... Menken is in top form, I mean "Her Voice" is hauntingly beautiful, but the lyrics are so plain and uninspired.
You should hear the songs from "Love Never Dies" before Slater was brought on! The title song was called "The Heart is Slow to Learn"..... it's horrible. :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:53 pm
by janesjubilee
Poody wrote:
PatrickvD wrote: Sister Act is in the hit/miss category for me. Love Never Dies IS awful though. And with the exception of "I Want the Good Times Back" most of the new Mermaid songs are kinda meh... Menken is in top form, I mean "Her Voice" is hauntingly beautiful, but the lyrics are so plain and uninspired.
You should hear the songs from "Love Never Dies" before Slater was brought on! The title song was called "The Heart is Slow to Learn"..... it's horrible. :lol:
I actually like the songs from "Love Never Dies," it's just the story plot is TERRIBLE.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:23 pm
by DancingCrab
Poody wrote:
PatrickvD wrote: Sister Act is in the hit/miss category for me. Love Never Dies IS awful though. And with the exception of "I Want the Good Times Back" most of the new Mermaid songs are kinda meh... Menken is in top form, I mean "Her Voice" is hauntingly beautiful, but the lyrics are so plain and uninspired.
You should hear the songs from "Love Never Dies" before Slater was brought on! The title song was called "The Heart is Slow to Learn"..... it's horrible. :lol:
Sorry, I disagree. "The Heart is Slow to Learn" was laced with more depth and sadness. the "Love Never Dies" lyric sound like a freaking hallmark card.

Tangled

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:28 pm
by Disney Duster
DancingCrab wrote:
Poody wrote:You should hear the songs from "Love Never Dies" before Slater was brought on! The title song was called "The Heart is Slow to Learn"..... it's horrible. :lol:
Sorry, I disagree. "The Heart is Slow to Learn" was laced with more depth and sadness. the "Love Never Dies" lyric sound like a freaking hallmark card.
I haven't heard or remember all the Love Never Dies songs but I do have "The Heart is Slow to Learn" on a CD that came way before Love Never Dies and I LOVE "The Heart is Slow to Learn".

Re: Tangled

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:05 am
by bradk
Disney Duster wrote:
bradk wrote:was that the songs *occasionally* rise to the level of 'A Whole New World' and 'Gaston.'
I think they are saying the song sung in the tavern with the thugs is like the song "Gaston" sung in a tavern with macho men.
I'm afraid you're right and those are pretty much my sentiments exactly. Comparing musical numbers by everything BUT the music (*ahem* lyrics) doesn't really work for me to be blunt. But if the fact that it's a bunch of burly men singing in a bar that makes for a great Disney movie alone, I concede.

I'm sorry I'm in the extreme minority* for those that have seen the movie but while I think it's a really good -- and occasionally great -- movie, the songs just hold it back from being something better. And it appears that most that are familiar with Slater's work here may agree just based on his previous work (which by the way I did not know of until after I had critiqued the songs). Of course it's still all subjective.

Evidently Lasseter loves the stuff because when I ran into him at a Princess and the Frog event, he told me I would love what Menken/Slater were doing for then-Rapunzel. Maybe it all changed since then, or maybe I just don't have an ear for Slater.

* although it seems to me that most who have commented on the film tend to neglect mentioning the music, as does Disney itself as I've previously noted.

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:21 am
by blackcauldron85
Thanks for the new videos!!!!! OMG, the smolder still kills me every time...ugh. <3

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:15 am
by Sotiris

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:52 am
by DisneyDude2010
Is that Disneyland Paris ??

Oh and according to stitch kingdom the Play and Greet and WDW Has been postponed until 25th October 10 more days :O

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:28 am
by Sotiris
DisneyDude2010 wrote:Is that Disneyland Paris ??
Yes. :)

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:17 pm
by blackcauldron85
DisneyDude2010 wrote:
Oh and according to stitch kingdom the Play and Greet and WDW Has been postponed until 25th October 10 more days :O
Where did they get their info? We should assume that that's accurate then? I'm planning my work schedule around this! :p

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:03 pm
by DisneyDude2010
NEW VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8NwihAG ... embedded#!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8NwihAGFcU&feature=player_embedded#!
Wow Rapunzel playing darts and gymnastics and ventriloquism

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:47 pm
by Sotiris
DisneyDude2010 wrote:NEW VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8NwihAG ... embedded#!
Wow Rapunzel playing darts and gymnastics and ventriloquism
Thanks :wink: I wonder why do we always seem to get the international versions of these promo videos first and then the English one :? :?

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:52 pm
by Fairytales
LOL that video is genius, Rapunzel is so funny. The part where she hits herself in the head with the frying pan... LOOOOl

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:10 pm
by skyler888
Geez the clip art for this movie has been hideous, that picture of her in Disneyland Paris makes her look insane

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:16 pm
by pap64
DisneyDude2010 wrote:NEW VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8NwihAG ... embedded#!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8NwihAGFcU&feature=player_embedded#!
Wow Rapunzel playing darts and gymnastics and ventriloquism
Well, if you were stuck alone on a tower for years you too would learn new stuff just to avoid going crazy with cabin fever :p

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:48 pm
by TangledInDreams
Hey guys, been watching the thread with interested :)

This came in my news feed:

http://www.itsartmag.com/forum/viewtopi ... tter071010

I think you had it but in french :) So enjoy the english version :)

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:17 pm
by Sotiris
TangledInDreams wrote:Hey guys, been watching the thread with interested :)

This came in my news feed:

http://www.itsartmag.com/forum/viewtopi ... tter071010

I think you had it but in french :) So enjoy the english version :)

Welcome to the forum :thumb:


Thanks for the link although that video in English has already been posted a few pages back.

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:00 pm
by janesjubilee
DisneyDude2010 wrote:NEW VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8NwihAG ... embedded#!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8NwihAGFcU&feature=player_embedded#!
Wow Rapunzel playing darts and gymnastics and ventriloquism
Oh my goodness, she is just adorable XDD