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From a long ago thread my bottom 10. If you want to post your whole list try Joe's thread here.

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... c&start=20

Look at all the lists Black Cauldron finished last on. I am not the only one.


35. The Fox and the Hound 4/10
36. The Three Caballeros 4/10
37. Home on the Range 4/10
38. Melody Time 3.5/10
39. The Sword in the Stone 3.5/10
40. Make Mine Music 3.5/10
41. Robin Hood 3.5/10
42. The Rescuers 2.5/10
43. The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2/10
44. The Black Cauldron 1/10

I have seen everyone and I like them all, however my least favorite of the bunch is "The Rescuers." I like the sequel better. Bernard is a really boring main character and I think the 70's music and lifeless color scheme for a majority of the film are what make this my least favorite. "Chicken Little" would probably come right after.

Widdi wrote:I did a search for a similar topic, but came up with nothing, which honestly shocked me.

The Search Nazi strikes again, but at the same time, I'd understand as the one topic I found did not have the words "least favorite" in the topic title...

It's pretty old, and has been bumped up seasonally, Prince Phillip's reliable...

Disney Animated Classics, You Did NOT Like

Anyway, I actually never replied to that thread (other than re-directing a new thread to it and having it merged...), but most everyone knows my least favorite (not to be confused with worst) Disney Animated Classics...

The Lion King

I will admit, the film has some stunning visuals, and a pretty good score. But the characters, the songs, the story, it's all just overblown and far too "bleeaauugghhh" for me. If that makes any sense at all. I mean, I know that one of biggest defenses for it is "But, but it's based on Hamlet! And that's Shakespeare!" among other things, but honestly, it's one of the snottiest adaptations of Hamlet I've seen yet. The animators did well in making Simba be such an unlikable bratty kid, the voice fits perfectly, but when he gets older, he seems so wussy IMO, mainly because I can't exactly imagine Matthew Broderick's voice fitting well with someone coming back to reclaim the throne usurped from his uncle.

The music, as I said earlier, is pretty good. But the actual vocal songs are very over the top, perhaps the only one I liked was "Can You Feel The Love Tonight", and even that is a bit hard for me to like. But it's just too serious at times ("Circle of Life" and "Be Prepared"), and too silly for the story as well ("I Just Can't Wait to Be King"). Also, those "Aaa-Aaa-Aaa" bits from the chorus treat the film as if it were some grandscale 1950s sword and sandal epic, when it's really just some cats in the jungle.

Of the characters, Simba is one who is the least tolerable, with Scar being the only one I'd ever root for, if only because he's got the most depth and the strongest personality. People could understand where he's coming from, having to be passed over for some snot-nosed brat who is too proud for his own good, and his character's journey, the way he has to stoop to the help of social outcasts (hyenas), shows the depths he'd go to get what he wants. It's not handed to him on a silver platter, he has to take it by whatever means possible. He's got the makings of a great villain, or at least a great politician.

Timon and Pumbaa fit in as general sidekicks, with no real emotional connections for me to find, and honestly, aren't as funny when rewatching the film. Zazu is that uppity and snotty bird who you just wanna strangle if only to shut him up, and the females get so little development it's laughable. I'd say something about Mufasa and Rafiki, but their characters are far too authoritative and buffoonish-but-with-that-necessary-wisdom that their roles work, if only to suit the needs of a 90 minute film and not necessarily to make an impact on the audience.

I find it completely understandable that in early development, The Lion King was considered the "B" picture next to the "A" picture known as Pocahontas. I find it hard to believe that most people consider The Lion King to be superior to the wonderfully metaphoric and beautifully written, animated, voiced, and scored Pocahontas.

All in all, there's little I like about the film but at the same time, I can't absolutely say that I hate it. It's just my least favorite of the 45, and I'd rather watch Cinderella 20 times in a row than this drivel. At least I could be entertained with Cindy and her prince.

Escapay

Well, when you said "classics" I thought we'd be focusing on pre-80s stuff, but I guess not. Personally, I do LOVE ALL the pre-80s stuff. None "rub me the wrong way," but I do have most favorites and least favorites. Least favorites, though I love and enjoy them anyway, would be Rescuers, Aristocats, and... that might be it. There are things about those films I love, but I feel the visuals in Rescuers are lacking, and the story in Aristocats is lacking. I could be forgetting another film worth mentioning though. Some of them I love but still don't find myself watching them as much as the others, like Fox and the Hound, with its more serious story, or Fantasia, which you really have to be in the zone for. Then, there's "The Black Cauldron," which is a good movie, but as a Disney classic it simply doesn't feel up to par. Still, the very presence of the underappreciated Princess Eilonwy keeps me from putting it too low on my list. Plus, that film's gots juevos.

As for the stuff from the 80s on, I didn't love Pocahontas at first. Since they restored the deleted scene though, I LOVE it and consider it a total Masterpiece! I have yet to see "Home on the Range," "Valiant," "The Wild," and "Pooh's Heffalump Movie," but I don't think I will strongly dislike any of those and hope to add them to my library eventually and check them out. I have Brother Bear, but haven't had a chance to give it my full attention. The two that rub me the wrong way, or come close, would be "Atlantis, The Lost Empire," which is really lacking on so many levels, and "Chicken Little," which I really felt tried waaaay too hard in almost every aspect. Those two are actually the only two I would give solid negative marks to out of all the Disney animated features.

From Snow White to The Jungle Book to Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, to Atlantis,
Home on the Range,and Chicken Little all of Disney's Animated Classics have amazed me. Other films such as The Wild, Over the Hedge, The Shrek Trilogy, " and other Dreamworks films have been extremely disliked by me because they don't have that extra Disney touch making you immerse yourself into the film, feel sorry for characters, and feel as if all your problems are gone at the end of a film, when the villain is defeated. I think that none of the DACs are bad. They are the most fantastic films I have ever seen because they are all unique, they are all beautifully drawn and they all have greats stories, characters, and they have that Disney touch.They are the Walt Disney Treasures, and I think the upcoming ones or any of the others will be/ are exceptions.

Escapay wrote:I find it completely understandable that in early development, The Lion King was considered the "B" picture next to the "A" picture known as Pocahontas. I find it hard to believe that most people consider The Lion King to be superior to the wonderfully metaphoric and beautifully written, animated, voiced, and scored Pocahontas.

Amen!

As to me, I still have a lot of Disney movies I have yet to see. But I admit that I find The Fox and the Hound pretty boring! No love story, where's the fun in that?

myr_heille wrote:

Escapay wrote:I find it completely understandable that in early development, The Lion King was considered the "B" picture next to the "A" picture known as Pocahontas. I find it hard to believe that most people consider The Lion King to be superior to the wonderfully metaphoric and beautifully written, animated, voiced, and scored Pocahontas.

Amen!

As to me, I still have a lot of Disney movies I have yet to see. But I admit that I find The Fox and the Hound pretty boring! No love story, where's the fun in that?

Hey what about Vixey? Did you forget about her? Because unless I was seeing things, Vixey and Todd definately had something going on there!

As far as my least favorite of the DAC's, I would normally say Peter Pan. Being a girl, I did find the portrayl of women as being UNEARTHLY jealous of eachother offended me, as did the portrayl of Native Americans. Although what's weird is that each time I've watched Peter Pan it seems to be steadily growing on me, and I'm getting to be quite fond of it.

I also HATED Beauty and the Beast when I first saw it around a year ago, but after the second viewing, I fell in love. Now, BatB is one of four of my all-time favorites!

So, I cannot say that I hate any Disney animated films. Each time I "hate" a Disney film, I seem to grow out of it and start loving it! (Which is why I've purposely not watched many Disney Animated movies (like Hunchback or Lilo)...I don't want to be tempted to get the GC-crapy editions!)

Oh, and I also haven't (again, purposely) seen Home on the Range or Chicken Little, because I'm afraid to see just how (supposedly) bad those films are..

-BB

brotherbear wrote:

myr_heille wrote:As to me, I still have a lot of Disney movies I have yet to see. But I admit that I find The Fox and the Hound pretty boring! No love story, where's the fun in that?

Hey what about Vixey? Did you forget about her? Because unless I was seeing things, Vixey and Todd definately had something going on there!

You are quite right, I did forget about her! But she's not the main protagonist like in the movies I prefer, where both the "lovers" are in most of the action.

My top 5 Worst Disney Animated Classics:

5. Chicken Little
4. Bambi
3. The Rescuers
2. Home on the Range
1. Treasure Planet (aside from being the worst Disney Animated Classic - it's also the worst animated film EVER!!)

The bottom three on my list (from the thread Mr. Toad dug up) still are:
42. Home on the Range
43. Oliver & Company
44. The Aristocats

It's not that I don't like them, I just don't particularly care for them. They are the films I find my attention drifting from while watching them.

Escapay wrote:

Widdi wrote:I did a search for a similar topic, but came up with nothing, which honestly shocked me.

The Search Nazi strikes again, but at the same time, I'd understand as the one topic I found did not have the words "least favorite" in the topic title...

It's pretty old, and has been bumped up seasonally, Prince Phillip's reliable...

Disney Animated Classics, You Did NOT Like

Anyway, I actually never replied to that thread (other than re-directing a new thread to it and having it merged...), but most everyone knows my least favorite (not to be confused with worst) Disney Animated Classics...

The Lion King

I will admit, the film has some stunning visuals, and a pretty good score. But the characters, the songs, the story, it's all just overblown and far too "bleeaauugghhh" for me. If that makes any sense at all. I mean, I know that one of biggest defenses for it is "But, but it's based on Hamlet! And that's Shakespeare!" among other things, but honestly, it's one of the snottiest adaptations of Hamlet I've seen yet. The animators did well in making Simba be such an unlikable bratty kid, the voice fits perfectly, but when he gets older, he seems so wussy IMO, mainly because I can't exactly imagine Matthew Broderick's voice fitting well with someone coming back to reclaim the throne usurped from his uncle.

The music, as I said earlier, is pretty good. But the actual vocal songs are very over the top, perhaps the only one I liked was "Can You Feel The Love Tonight", and even that is a bit hard for me to like. But it's just too serious at times ("Circle of Life" and "Be Prepared"), and too silly for the story as well ("I Just Can't Wait to Be King"). Also, those "Aaa-Aaa-Aaa" bits from the chorus treat the film as if it were some grandscale 1950s sword and sandal epic, when it's really just some cats in the jungle.

Of the characters, Simba is one who is the least tolerable, with Scar being the only one I'd ever root for, if only because he's got the most depth and the strongest personality. People could understand where he's coming from, having to be passed over for some snot-nosed brat who is too proud for his own good, and his character's journey, the way he has to stoop to the help of social outcasts (hyenas), shows the depths he'd go to get what he wants. It's not handed to him on a silver platter, he has to take it by whatever means possible. He's got the makings of a great villain, or at least a great politician.

Timon and Pumbaa fit in as general sidekicks, with no real emotional connections for me to find, and honestly, aren't as funny when rewatching the film. Zazu is that uppity and snotty bird who you just wanna strangle if only to shut him up, and the females get so little development it's laughable. I'd say something about Mufasa and Rafiki, but their characters are far too authoritative and buffoonish-but-with-that-necessary-wisdom that their roles work, if only to suit the needs of a 90 minute film and not necessarily to make an impact on the audience.

I find it completely understandable that in early development, The Lion King was considered the "B" picture next to the "A" picture known as Pocahontas. I find it hard to believe that most people consider The Lion King to be superior to the wonderfully metaphoric and beautifully written, animated, voiced, and scored Pocahontas.

All in all, there's little I like about the film but at the same time, I can't absolutely say that I hate it. It's just my least favorite of the 45, and I'd rather watch Cinderella 20 times in a row than this drivel. At least I could be entertained with Cindy and her prince.

Escapay

I agree with everything you said about the Lion King. It's my least favourite of the 90s films.

To me the Lion King seems like one of the most childish movies Disney has made. It tries to be an adult movie but when characters like Timon and Pumba are on the screen the maturity of the film dies faster than a decapitated criminal.

On another note I don't get all the Hunchback hate. Honestly I think it's the best animated film Disney has ever produced. But to each his own I suppose.

I've never seen a Disney animated film that I hated (I haven't seen Chicken Little yet, so that could change ), but there is a short list of classics that I haven't bothered to view a second time, so I guess you would say they are my least favorites:

The Black Cauldron
Oliver and Company
Atlantis
Home on the Range

As for the ones that are usually mentioned, I was a child in the 70's so the films of that decade will always hold a special place in my heart, even if they aren't as good as most of the others. I also don't get the Hunchback hate. The only thing I hated was the gargoyles. They were badly out of place in what was mostly a serious movie. Other than that, I thought it was a masterpiece.

Not that it is bad, or unwatchable, I just find that of all the Disney animated films, The Black Cauldron is probably the one that gets watched the least of my collection. I have to be in a certain mood to watch this film, otherwise I just fast forward through the majority of it.

My second least favorite film would probably be "Pocahontas", only because the animation of the characters irritates me so much. Some times I put the movie on and just close my eyes and listen. The soundtrack is wonderful.

This is really hard for me because I like most of the disney classics, so my least favorites would have to be: Lilo and Stitch, Chicken Little, Home on the Range.

I really do like all, well most of the Disney movies but my least favorites are:

Hunchback of Notre Dame
Hercules
Atlantis
Lilo and Stitch
Fox and the Hound

Fox and the Hound does not really capture my interest except the one part where she drives him out to the forest. It was so sad, too sad really. As for the other movies I just don't care for the movies from that time period (late 90's).

I enjoy pretty much every disney film as most of us do but my bottom three animated films would be:

Mulan
Pochahontas
Rescuers Down Under

And for CGI: Chicken Little

Home on the Range
The Wild
Chicken Little


are the very worst imo

My picks would have to be The Black Cauldron and Chicken Little. The Black Cauldron is just absolutely dreadful, while the CGI aspect of Chicken Little annoys me. Those are my picks.

By the way, I can't believe anyone could pick The Lion King or Cinderella for worst Disney movie ever. It is one thing to think these films are highly overrated - but to say they are your least favorite seems like a bit of a stretch, when there are plenty of films whose quality are much poorer. Just my opinion though...

yamiiguy wrote:Home on the Range
The Wild
Chicken Little


are the very worst imo

Exactly my thoughts, and I'll go ahead and add 101 Dalmatians to that list. I find it incredibly boring.

hmmm...

My least favorite are Cinderella, Peter Pan, The Aristocats, Tarzan, The Fox and the Hound and Treasure Planet. I haven't seen Brother Bear or anything beyond that, none of it interested me.