Re: The Nutcracker and the Four Realms
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:24 pm
I don't even remember him from the trailers. Still find it odd that the Nutcracker isn't on the actual theatrical poster.
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It looks like this is the actor listed as the Nutcracker on IMDb. I don't think he appears in the trailers. And on his resume there are only a few roles as an extra, so I doubt IMDb is right. I still think the the Nutcracker is the black soldier shown in the trailers and poster. Apart from the fact that he seems to have a sizable role in the film, it would made more sense it was him if, as in many versions of the story, he's Drosselmeyer's nephew. We'll see. Anyway, I don't understand why all this secrecy about the Nutcracker either. How come he's in the title and not in the posters or trailers? Will it be a spoiler just seeing his appearence as a toy?JeanGreyForever wrote:I don't even remember him from the trailers. Still find it odd that the Nutcracker isn't on the actual theatrical poster.
Doesn't seem like he'll be the Nutcracker then. I remember for Oz the Great and Powerful, the marketing was trying to get people to guess which witch would become the Wicked Witch of the West. But there isn't anything like that here for people to guess who the Nutcracker is so I'm not sure what Disney is up to.D82 wrote: It looks like this is the actor listed as the Nutcracker on IMDb. I don't think he appears in the trailers. And on his resume there are only a few roles as an extra, so I doubt IMDb is right. I still think the the Nutcracker is the black soldier shown in the trailers and poster. Apart from the fact that he seems to have a sizable role in the film, it would made more sense it was him if, as in many versions of the story, he's Drosselmeyer's nephew. We'll see. Anyway, I don't understand why all this secrecy about the Nutcracker either. How come he's in the title and not in the posters or trailers? Will it be a spoiler just seeing his appearence as a toy?
Was this film really in development way before BATB?Disney Duster wrote:I don't think they took the inventing thing from Belle, especially as this film, which has an inventor mother creating the whole realms, was well on its way before Beauty and the Beast came out.
I remember that from the marketing of Oz too. But yes, hiding the Nutcracker here is different and seems strange. Well, maybe when we see the film we'll understand why they didn't reveal him before.JeanGreyForever wrote:I remember for Oz the Great and Powerful, the marketing was trying to get people to guess which witch would become the Wicked Witch of the West. But there isn't anything like that here for people to guess who the Nutcracker is so I'm not sure what Disney is up to.
Well the first page of this thread says it was written in 2016, which was not before BatB started in development, but before BatB came to theater's and became the most monetarily successful live-action remake.JeanGreyForever wrote:Was this film really in development way before BATB?Disney Duster wrote:I don't think they took the inventing thing from Belle, especially as this film, which has an inventor mother creating the whole realms, was well on its way before Beauty and the Beast came out.
Oh, I see what you mean. However, Disney's recent trend of updating their female characters in their live-action films (Alice, Maleficent, Belle, etc.) means that Clara being an inventor would likely have occurred regardless of how well BATB did box-office wise.Disney Duster wrote: Well the first page of this thread says it was written in 2016, which was not before BatB started in development, but before BatB came to theater's and became the most monetarily successful live-action remake.
Costume designer Jenny Beavan has won Oscars for dressing the English past and the apocalyptic future. Now she’s marrying the two, melding historical verisimilitude with fantasy in Disney’s “The Nutcracker and the Four Realms.”
“We set it in 1875 for the basic story,” says Beavan, of keeping the fantasy elements rooted in reality. “You’ve got to have an anchor. When you do films where they say, ‘I don’t care about the period’ and they’re all over the place, I think, even when people don’t know the period, they know it’s kind of wrong.”
Beavan took home Oscars for films about as sartorially varied as they come: the circa-1908 period piece “A Room with a View” and the circa-who’s-keeping-track-after-the-end-of-the-world “Mad Max: Fury Road.” Also a Tony nominee, Beavan has racked up eight other Oscar nominations.
The new “Nutcracker,” opening Nov. 2, is a live-action fairy tale, with nods to the ballet as well. In it, Young Clara (Mackenzie Foy), still mourning her late inventor-mother during the first Christmas without her, comes to a party at her godfather, Drosselmeyer’s (Morgan Freeman). She discovers the magical wonderlands her mother created and learns they’re in danger. Victorian England provides the grounding from which the magical worlds sprout.
“We decided to think about what the mother had in her closet or her cupboards,” says Beavan. “When I have nightmares or dreams, they’re often anchored in something I’ve seen that day or something I have around. So we went to the sort of Staffordshire [porcelain] figures people would have; they’re 18th century, and they were perfect for the Realm of Flowers. It translated brilliantly for all the realms. We covered them with ice and snow and icicles and frost and glitter, covered them in candy and sugar and sweet motifs. So they’re based on memory.”
“Nutcracker” was a titanic undertaking, she says, estimating that after a 12-week prep period, she had more than 100 people working, cutting and embellishing, fitting and dressing. Beavan estimates that the movie’s principals required 150 costumes (counting “repeats” — copies for stunts and such), plus hundreds more for the magical realms and about 700 rented costumes for big crowd scenes.
“It was massive,” she says of the approximately 1,500 total outfits. “Massive fun as well, don’t get me wrong.”
Some designs let her whimsy fly, such as the getup actor Eugenio Derbez dons that gives new meaning to the words “floral pattern” and the gorgeous embroidery on Freeman’s gown (“He was just so easy,” Beavan says of the veteran actor. “He loved the shoes. He has very wide feet.”).
But some of the less fantastical creations are among her favorites, such as Clara’s “mauve organza dress” as she emerges, vulnerable, from a tree into a frozen world, and her “Little Soldier” costume, based on what women of the period wore when serving in the military.
“They were out with the troops in various parts of the world, normally not actually fighting, but being backup services, nursing, what have you,” Beavan said.
The costuming team’s work is remarkably intricate: the detail, the fineness of the fabrics’ textures, the use of color. Then, for the film’s lone ballet sequence, prima ballerina Misty Copeland’s garb is anything but complex.
Beavan says, “With ballet, what you’re trying to do is show the body and the line. She’s a dancer like you get in a music box, the ballerina going around. To me it was the simpler, the better. We’re so elaborate everywhere [else]. What we wanted to see from Misty and Sergei Polunin, you just want to see good ballet. And she’s the most amazing dancer.”
Thanks a lot, JeanGreyForever! It was an interesting article.JeanGreyForever wrote:Here's the article for anyone who can't access it.
Who knows, maybe they have saved the Nutcracker for the final trailer. We'll find out soon!disneyprincess11 wrote:The final trailer tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1036645997718384640
Hoping that it's much better than the last one and we finally see the Nutcracker. That article on the worlds nearly restores my faith in the movie