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Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:04 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Watched
Harriet earlier today. Cynthia Erivo was very impressive and I loved her performance of the End Credits song! I didn't really know her, tbh, but now I'm more confident about her playing the Blue Fairy.

Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:53 pm
by thedisneyspirit
Has Disney decided mythological creatures like fairies and mermaids can only be played by black actors now?

Thanks Disney for reminding me of my worth as a Latina that we aren't even good enough to play fictional characters, we only exist to pick your crops and be your maids.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:59 pm
by Sotiris
Luke Evans Talks Live-Action ‘Pinocchio’ and Teases The Coachman’s New Look
https://thedisinsider.com/2021/08/15/lu ... -new-look/
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:24 am
by robster16
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:33 am
by DisneyFan09
Well, it was a nice logo. Not outstanding, but still fine enough.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:50 pm
by Vlad
The logo kinda reminds me of the one they used on the 1992 theatrical re-release poster of the original, the one with all the characters.
Sorry if this was addressed before, but will this movie have Monstro as well?
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:26 pm
by Sotiris
This is the exact same logo they showed at Disney Investor Day last year. Not that it's an issue since it's a good logo. It has nice lettering and color scheme. I particularly like the texture. It looks like paint on wood.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:52 pm
by D82
They said the film will premiere on Disney+ in fall 2022. Had that been announced before?
Sicoe Vlad wrote:The logo kinda reminds me of the one they used on the 1992 theatrical re-release poster of the original, the one with all the characters.
It has some things in common with that logo. I bet they were partly inspired by it.
Sicoe Vlad wrote:Sorry if this was addressed before, but will this movie have Monstro as well?
I don't think it has been confirmed whether it's in the film or not, but I think there would be dumb not to include that iconic secuence with the whale.
Sotiris wrote:This is the exact same logo they showed at Disney Investor Day last year. Not that it's an issue since it's a good logo. It has nice lettering and color scheme. I particularly like the texture. It looks like paint on wood.
Well, compared to some other remake logos it's not bad, but personally I find it a bit boring.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:30 am
by Vlad
I hope they include them, I loved them ever since I was a kid. Pinocchio made me fascinated by whales. I thought whales didn't exist in reality, and when my dad explained that they actually did, and they're the biggest animals on Earth, I was blown away.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:44 pm
by Sotiris
Sheila Atim was cast in the film in an unknown role.
Atim appeared with Mbedu in Barry Jenkins’ acclaimed limited series, The Underground Railroad. She will be seen in Bruised, the directorial debut of actress Halle Berry, as well as the live-action retelling of Disney’s Pinocchio from Robert Zemeckis.
Source:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie ... 235021459/
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:45 pm
by Sotiris
The song "Little Wooden Head" was cut from the remake. Gepetto is still singing in the film, two new songs. The Coachman has a song too. "When You Wish Upon a Star" is now sung by the Blue Fairy.
Glen Ballard wrote:It's going great; it's going great! I've done a bunch of movies with Robert Zemeckis. Alan Silvestri has done all the movies with Robert Zemeckis, so to be reunited with him and sort of creating a song score has been great. We did it with The Polar Express in 2005, and so we kind of have been there together to do that, and we understand the challenges of what putting songs into a movie is.
It's not the easiest thing now because the audiences don't necessarily understand movie musicals; there's not that any of them. So it's a real challenge to figure that out but, again, Pinocchio, the original, had three iconic songs in it: "When You Wish Upon A Star", "I've Got No Strings" and "Hi-Diddle-Dee-De" - we're going to use those songs, you know that, but everything else is new.
Of course, it doesn't hurt that we have Tom Hanks as Geppetto, and he's doing two songs in the film. And Luke Evans is The Coachman who is an incredible performer. Cynthia Erivo is singing "When You Wish Upon A Star", so, again, it's an embarrassment of riches. We have some of the most talented people in the entire world - and one of the most incredible directors, and he's telling us to write all these songs. So it's like, 'OKAY!' It's really turned out well.
Source:
https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/G ... t-20211126
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:56 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Such a needless cut. :/ I suppose they gave Geppetto something meatier to sing and it's placed near where "Little Wooden Head" would go, and LWH being more of a fun, meaningless ditty rather than something important storywise, it was cut. They could have transferred it elsewhere, maybe having Geppetto sing it to himself as Pinocchio leaves for school or as a lullaby when Pinocchio goes to sleep, something like that.
I'm still very excited for this one though. Having anyone but Erivo sing "WYWUaS" would have been a huge mistake. It's too bad she couldn't have another song to sing later in the film, too (perhaps when she saves Pinocchio from Stromboli or perhaps after Pinocchio is on his way to the ocean to find Geppetto, she could sing something while watching him from above).
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:23 pm
by D82
If "When You Wish Upon A Star", "I've Got No Strings" and "Hi-Diddle-Dee-De" are the only songs from the original to be used in the remake, that means "Give A Little Whistle" has also been cut. That's my second favorite after "When You Wish Upon A Star". I don't care too much what elements from the original are or aren't in the remake, but it's a bit disappointing to me they don't consider the two cut songs iconic enough to be included. Also, if "When You Wish Upon A Star" is now sung by the Blue Fairy and "Give A Little Whistle" has been cut, that also means Jiminy Cricket won't sing in the film. Well, unless they've written new songs for him.
As for the changes, I guess the Coachman and Geppetto getting new songs makes sense considering the characters are played by big stars in this version. I also understand why they want Cynthia Erivo to perform the most iconic song in the film, but to me it doesn't make much sense for her character to sing it. I don't know, to me it seems a bit egotistical of her to sing that about herself. Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing her take on the song.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:06 pm
by Sotiris
D82 wrote:If "When You Wish Upon A Star", "I've Got No Strings" and "Hi-Diddle-Dee-De" are the only songs from the original to be used in the remake, that means "Give A Little Whistle" has also been cut.
You're right. I completely forgot about that one.

It's a shame they're cutting songs for seemingly no good reason. Since this is supposedly a faithful adaptation, I think they're only cutting them to make room for new ones.
D82 wrote:Also, if "When You Wish Upon A Star" is now sung by the Blue Fairy and "Give A Little Whistle" has been cut, that also means Jiminy Cricket won't sing in the film. Well, unless they've written new songs for him.
Jiminy Cricket is most likely a non-singing role even though Joseph Gordon-Levitt can sing. If he were singing in the film, he would have been mentioned in the interview with the rest.
D82 wrote:I also understand why they want Cynthia Erivo to perform the most iconic song in the film, but to me it doesn't make much sense for her character to sing it. I don't know, to me it seems a bit egotistical of her to sing that about herself.
I agree. It would have made more sense for the song to be sung either by Jiminy or Geppetto in the film and have Erivo sing a version for the end credits.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:43 am
by Disney Duster
Disney's Divinity wrote:Such a needless cut. :/[...] "Little Wooden Head"[...]as a lullaby when Pinocchio goes to sleep
I agree and that lullaby idea is great!
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:35 pm
by D82
Sotiris wrote:Jiminy Cricket is most likely a non-singing role even though Joseph Gordon-Levitt can sing. If he were singing in the film, he would have been mentioned in the interview with the rest.
That's true. I wonder if Jiminy Cricket's role has been reduced as it has happened with other animal sidekicks in some of the remakes like the mice in
Cinderella or Timothy Mouse in
Dumbo.
Sotiris wrote:It would have made more sense for the song to be sung either by Jiminy or Geppetto in the film and have Erivo sing a version for the end credits.
I agree. Having her sing an end credits version of the song would've been fine by me. In that case, it would be more like the actress/singer performing the song and less like the character doing it.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:15 am
by estefan
I guess it's possible they cut the intro where Jiminy sings the song and opens the book. I can definitely imagine a scenario where Zemeckis has Erivo sing "When You Wish Upon a Star" over the opening castle logo, which then transitions into the camera swooping through the village until finally arriving at Geppetto's workshop.
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:03 pm
by Disney's Divinity
I see no problem whatsoever with the Blue Fairy singing the song, whether it's over the opening, before the credits, where you can see her specifically singing it or only hear her from somewhere offscreen. She is supposed to be an angelic character; it would be stating reality as a matter of fact and has nothing at all to do with ego. That could only be the case if she was a normal character like the rest of the cast, with emotions and desires of her own.
Moreover, I don't mind if Jiminy Cricket's time is reduced. He was always my least favorite character, although not annoying like the dwarfs in Snow White or mice in Cinderella are to me. I imagine his few funny moments I liked would be hard to re-create with 3D anyway (dancing with the clock figures at the beginning or trying to fight Lampwick).
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:08 pm
by Disney Duster
Disney's Divinity wrote:I see no problem whatsoever with the Blue Fairy singing the song, whether it's over the opening, before the credits, where you can see her specifically singing it or only hear her from somewhere offscreen. She is supposed to be an angelic character; it would be stating reality as a matter of fact and has nothing at all to do with ego. That could only be the case if she was a normal character like the rest of the cast, with emotions and desires of her own.
Perfectly said and agreed!
Re: Pinocchio (Live-Action)
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:45 am
by Sotiris
Cynthia Erivo posted a very brief behind-the-scenes
clip of her as the Blue Fairy on Instagram which she later deleted. I can't say I like the look. The dress is plain, unimaginative and not era-appropriate, the fabric looks cheap, and the hairstyle is austere and un-fairy-like. Why do Disney remakes hate fashion and taste so much?
