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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:58 pm
by DisneyJedi
Disney's Divinity wrote: Extremely disappointed. Still, I'm sure it'll be back in theaters sometime in the next 50 years (even if it's something like El Capitan), and I'll see it. :P
Fifty years?! :(

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:23 pm
by Disney_freak
Hey guys,
I'm a long time reader but I just now got around to finally joining the forum. You might know me over on blu-ray.com as disneyfreak. I would think that The Little Mermaid is going to at least get a 3D blu-ray, it takes ~ 8-9 months to do a film through the CAPS system according to a interview. You figure that they were going to do a brand new restoration because it never got one done by Lowry digital, so that takes months in itself too. Including the fact that its non-digital they need to take longer for restoration I would assume, since they've never done it I would assume they would start on the project rather early. So they should be done with the 3D conversion or rather close to finishing to the point where they have so much money invested in this restoration that they need to release a blu-ray in 3D to get their investment back.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:35 pm
by Sotiris
[...] But "The Lion King" turned out to be an anomaly, as the three follow-ups grossed far less. "Beauty and the Beast" took in $47.6 million last January, "Finding Nemo" $40.7 million in September, and "Monsters, Inc." only $30.5 million since its Dec. 19 release.

Disney had already begun work on the 3-D conversion of "The Little Mermaid" in November, the studio's animation chief creative officer, John Lasseter, said in an interview at the time.
Source: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/en ... 9988.story


If they just began in November there couldn't be enough time to complete the conversion. The Lion King took four months and it was a CAPS film. The Nightmare Before Christmas took about a year. I guess this means we won't be getting a 3D Blu-ray after all. :(

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:47 pm
by Sotiris
Disney_freak wrote:Hey guys, I'm a long time reader but I just now got around to finally joining the forum.
Welcome! :)
Disney_freak wrote:I would think that The Little Mermaid is going to at least get a 3D blu-ray, it takes ~ 8-9 months to do a film through the CAPS system according to an interview.


In this interview, stereographer Robert Neuman said that it only took four months to convert The Lion King.

Disney_freak wrote:You figure that they were going to do a brand new restoration because it never got one done by Lowry digital, so that takes months in itself too. Including the fact that its non-digital they need to take longer for restoration I would assume, since they've never done it I would assume they would start on the project rather early.


That makes sense. Hopefully, the report saying Disney had just begun the conversion in November is inaccurate.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:54 pm
by Disney_freak
Sotiris wrote:In this interview, stereographer Robert Neuman said that it only took four months to convert The Lion King.



I believe the interview I read it said it took that long for Beauty and the Beast but that was the first conversion and it may have took longer. I can't find the interview again, so I may have been mistaken.

Sotiris wrote:That makes sense. Hopefully, the report saying Disney had just begun the conversion in November is inaccurate.
Would you mind linking me to the interview it said that the conversion started in Novemeber? I've contacted Disney to confirm its been cancelled.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:03 pm
by Sotiris
Disney_freak wrote:Would you mind linking me to the interview it said that the conversion started in November? I've contacted Disney to confirm its been cancelled.
Sure.
Disney had already begun work on the 3-D conversion of "The Little Mermaid" in November, the studio's animation chief creative officer, John Lasseter, said in an interview at the time.
Source: Los Angeles Times

Reuters also reported the same thing.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:18 pm
by Disney_freak
Sotiris wrote:Sure.
Thank you. Hmm This isn't looking good than. Unless they decide since they have several million invested already and they will continue to move forward for blu-ray the chances are looking slim. Hopefully its still a diamond edition itself, but I don't think we have too much to worry about it.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:14 pm
by disneyboy20022
This makes sense since www.thedigitalbits.com reported that The Little Mermaid Blu ray would be released around August or September.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:59 am
by rodis
Would they dare not restore the film and keep the 2006 restoration? Up to now, the 3D assured us there would be a new restoration, but now anything's possible.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:36 am
by Vlad
rodis wrote:Would they dare not restore the film and keep the 2006 restoration? Up to now, the 3D assured us there would be a new restoration, but now anything's possible.
I know. I only hope the film will have a Blu-ray release this year. If Disney cancelled the 3D re-release, maybe they'll do the same for the home video release.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:39 am
by Vlad
rb_canadian181 wrote:All this discussion of the new cover art possibilities got me thinking of one I remember seeing that eventually got scrapped when they were releasing the 1997 re-issue on VHS. This is about as good of a close-up as I've ever found of the un-used artwork. You can see that it says "cover art subject to change". Anyway I find this might be a good idea for them to use (something similar) for the next release because it's not an in-your-face close up and it has a variety of characters.

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Wow, I have never seen that cover before! But, what the heck is Eric doing with a sword? :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:43 am
by Atlantica
I am gutted about this. Truly.

Not so much for the 3D, that doesn't bother me; it was the opportunity to see it in the cinema.

It hasn't been available for such a long time .... it could really have been successful!

:(

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:31 am
by Topher
Sicoe6256 wrote:Wow, I have never seen that cover before! But, what the heck is Eric doing with a sword? :lol:
It's another surreptitious symbol of manhood that TLM covers are so fond of!

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:08 am
by ajmrowland
This sucks and like just about anyone these days, they blame everything but their own decisions.

of course I wasnt too excited about it but I was still looking forward to i and but they fucked it up big time! :x

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:59 am
by Disney_freak
rodis wrote:Would they dare not restore the film and keep the 2006 restoration? Up to now, the 3D assured us there would be a new restoration, but now anything's possible.
I would think the restoration would have to be done before the 3D conversion, that and the fact its the only Disney film to never receive a lowry digital scan. I think they'll restore it one last time. Most likely in 4K or higher.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:02 am
by bruno_wbt
Disney_freak wrote: I've contacted Disney to confirm its been cancelled.

What did they tell you?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:07 am
by Disney_freak
bruno_wbt wrote:
Disney_freak wrote: I've contacted Disney to confirm its been cancelled.

What did they tell you?
I've emailed DMR and Disney Studios help but I'm awaiting response from both of them. I ask about a 3D blu-ray also. I'll get back to you when I get a response. :)

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:52 am
by bruno_wbt
Thank you Disney_freak!

:)

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:15 am
by rodis
Disney_freak wrote: I would think the restoration would have to be done before the 3D conversion, that and the fact its the only Disney film to never receive a lowry digital scan. I think they'll restore it one last time. Most likely in 4K or higher.
I hope so. It's just that a HDTV rip has been available for a few years now and honestly, it looks horrid - blurry, faded, grainy, and what not. The same shot looks gorgeous when I watch it on DVD on my CRT, but looks bad in that HDTV rip. I know it's just a TV rip and should not be any indication to anything, but HDTV rips of Aladdin and Pocahontas look brilliant. I assume it has something to do with the fact that they're CAPS films...

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:43 am
by PatrickvD
I think the new restoration is going to be phenomenal.