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I don't know ... you say that, but it been on almost constant release over here. Maybe it is just the UK ? Who knows.

Though to be fair, Alice has a vast presence in all the parks, and that was established much before the Tim Burton film, obviously.

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:I don't know ... you say that, but it been on almost constant release over here. Maybe it is just the UK ? Who knows.

Dumbo is the same... It was released in 2001 then re-released in 2005 (same edition, just added a rectangular hologram on the spine instead of the old circular one on the back and also added newer BBFC logo as well as holographic rim on the disc but otherwise identical). Then another release 2 years later in 2007 as a "Special Edition" (U.S. "Big Top Edition" equivalent) and now most recently the 2010 70th Anniversary release. Are the sales for Alice & Dumbo that good then for them to have had numerous releases? I'm fond of Alice but Dumbo never Striked me as being THAT popular.

Exactly ! I am trying to search for this at the moment; trying to find sales figures for each release. I seem to remember Peter Pan being around a lot when I was younger as well.

I was never really aware of the sales for Aladdin at the time until more recently and I'm actually really surprised to discover that it underperformed as I always thought The Little Mermaid to The Lion King (minus The Rescuers Down Under) were always guaranteed to rake in sales for Disney, seeing as they are considered the heavyweights or blockbusters of the renaissance period.
I did however find it strange (at the time) that Aladdin wasn't even out for a full year in the UK until it returned to the vault (before seeing a Musical Masterpiece Edition in 2008) because releases like Cinderella and The Little Mermaid were around for a good 18 months, maybe nearly even 2 years before returning.
It'll be interesting to see how well the Diamond release pans out.

Sales figures for the PE:


Snow White - about 2.4 million on DVD and about 4.2 million on VHS.

Beauty and the Beast - about 4 million on DVD and 2 million on VHS.

The Lion King - 13 million.

Aladdin - 2.8 million in 2004 (might have crossed the 3 million mark in 2005).

Bambi - 5.5 million.

Cinderella - 6.4 million

Lady and the Tramp - 5.5 million.

The Little Mermaid - 7 million.

Peter Pan - 5.1 million.

The Jungle Book - 4.4 million.

As for "One Hundred and one Dalmatians", I remember reading it sold about 2.7 million but that's just based on my memory.

rodis wrote:Sales figures for the PE:


Snow White - about 2.4 million on DVD and about 4.2 million on VHS.

Beauty and the Beast - about 4 million on DVD and 2 million on VHS.

The Lion King - 13 million.

Aladdin - 2.8 million in 2004 (might have crossed the 3 million mark in 2005).

Bambi - 5.5 million.

Cinderella - 6.4 million

Lady and the Tramp - 5.5 million.

The Little Mermaid - 7 million.

Peter Pan - 5.1 million.

The Jungle Book - 4.4 million.

As for "One Hundred and one Dalmatians", I remember reading it sold about 2.7 million but that's just based on my memory.

source?

Lnds500 wrote:
source?

It's figures I've collected through the years.

The numbers for Snow White, BATB, The Lion King, Bambi, Cinderella, Lady and the Tramp are from "Video Business" magazine.

The numbers for Aladdin from "Home Media".

The Little Mermaid, Peter Pan and The Jungle Book - the-numbers.com.

Wow, The Lion King really sold that much more? Had no idea it was so vastly above the others.

rodis wrote:It's figures I've collected through the years.

The numbers for Snow White, BATB, The Lion King, Bambi, Cinderella, Lady and the Tramp are from "Video Business" magazine.

The numbers for Aladdin from "Home Media".

The Little Mermaid, Peter Pan and The Jungle Book - the-numbers.com.

Thanks! I wish Disney gave details on the worldwide profits from home media...

What JustOneBite said is true: Disney has not done much with Aladdin since the 90s, especially in comparison to The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Lion King, never mind that Aladdin was THE number one movie of 92.

Just look at what Disney has done with the movies...
- The New Fantasyland Expansion at Walt Disney World will include a land based on Beauty and the Beast and another land based on The Little Mermaid

- The Art of Animation resort has an area based on The Little Mermaid, and another one based on The Lion King

- Two of the most popular shows on Hollywood Studios are The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, two shows that are STILL running to this day

- At Animal Kingdom, one of the most popular shows there is Festival of the Lion King

- Both Beauty and the Beast and Lion King were recently re-released in theaters in 3D,with Little Mermaid looking to have a release too.

Meanwhile, Aladdin has got...
- A show on California Adventure

- A flying carpets attraction

- Meet and greets

- A segment on Philharmagic

- Two segments on World of Color

- A 3D/live action stage show on Tokyo Disneysea

The MOST it has gotten is airings of the movie on ABC Family, and that's a SISTER network, not a big channel like Disney Channel and ABC (though I may be mistaken).

So can you see why Aladdin was the least selling Platinum DVD? Disney has not given the movie enough legs to turn it into a franchise as big as the other members of the fab four, nor its characters given enough exposure.

Which is a shame because the movie more than deserves its exposure to the masses. It is my second favorite Disney Animated Classic after Beauty and the Beast. Unlike the Shrek movies, Aladdin is one of the few cases in which a very contemporary movie remains a timeless classic even years after its release. It's characters are very fascinating and very lovable. It deserves better recognition from Disney.

there've been a few disney channel airings.

and to add to that, all three got tv series.

Lnds500 wrote: Thanks! I wish Disney gave details on the worldwide profits from home media...

I remember an article from "Home Media" shortly after Mermaid came out on DVD where one Disney CEO enthusiastically talked about it being such a success on DVD and how it sold 10 million copies worldwide and that in another decade it's gonna sell another 10 million.

I'm not sure if it's possible nowadays anyway...

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Wow, The Lion King really sold that much more? Had no idea it was so vastly above the others.

"Videobusiness", in its 2003 year-end list, listed it around 7.9 million if I'm not mistaken; it was in a later article that claimed it sold 13 million overall. But I'm not 100% sure about the 7.9 million figure so don't take my word for it.

Regardless of any doubts one may have, I think it is fair to say that Aladdin is still far more popular (and marketable) than the vast majority of Disney animated films. Needless to say, I'm sort of dreading how it'll be treated. Of course the transfer should be great, but I can't say I'm looking forward to any potential Virtual Vaults or Second Screen experiences.

universALLove wrote:Dumbo is the same... It was released in 2001 then re-released in 2005 (same edition, just added a rectangular hologram on the spine instead of the old circular one on the back and also added newer BBFC logo as well as holographic rim on the disc but otherwise identical). Then another release 2 years later in 2007 as a "Special Edition" (U.S. "Big Top Edition" equivalent) and now most recently the 2010 70th Anniversary release. Are the sales for Alice & Dumbo that good then for them to have had numerous releases? I'm fond of Alice but Dumbo never Striked me as being THAT popular.

Alice in Wonderland and Dumbo were the first animated classics made available on VHS, and they were always among the films constantly kept available throughout the 80s, 90s and into the 00s. I think it has only been recently where Disney has momentarily "vaulted" them at given points. Needless to say, they've always been popular, which probably accounts for their release. Alice in Wonderland, though unsuccessful on initial release, has been reappraised over time and has a strong theme park presence. Dumbo also has a strong theme park presence and is generally considered to be one of the real great animated films. Obviously, both films were made under the watch of Walt Disney, which can also help in terms of marketability.

^at this point, even Second Screen is a luxury, and I've found no problems with it except that I always have to pause the movie to look at something properly.

ajmrowland wrote:^at this point, even Second Screen is a luxury, and I've found no problems with it except that I always have to pause the movie to look at something properly.

The only problem I have with Second Screen is that it exists and there's no other way to access the bonus features (those that are relegated to that). I've only actually ever used it once, for the Bambi Diamond, and I found it super annoying; all of that could have been put onto a BD and/or put into a PIP track. I wouldn't even call it a luxury--more like an annoyance.

Judging by the sales it should be Peter Pan getting the Diamond and not Aladdin.

I love Aladdin and I'm so happy that it's getting a Diamond release, but if I was a huge Peter Pan fan I might feel a bit... ticked off ?

Over here the marketing for Aladdin was a little bit better with Mc Donald's Toys to help the sales.

There were McDonald's toys promoting the Aladdin DVD release in America, too, back in '04. I remember, because my aunt managed a McDonald's restaurant and was always able to get any of the happy-meal toys I wanted. I had her get me a Jafar...Which I have since misplaced.

TheSequelOfDisney wrote:

ajmrowland wrote:^at this point, even Second Screen is a luxury, and I've found no problems with it except that I always have to pause the movie to look at something properly.

The only problem I have with Second Screen is that it exists and there's no other way to access the bonus features (those that are relegated to that). I've only actually ever used it once, for the Bambi Diamond, and I found it super annoying; all of that could have been put onto a BD and/or put into a PIP track. I wouldn't even call it a luxury--more like an annoyance.

THIS!

I hate, hate, HATE second screen. It is one of the most obnoxious features ever created for Blu Rays. First of all, it is basically a gimmicky picture in picture, which Blu Ray can easily do and MORE as the Beauty and the Beast release proved.

I honestly don't understand why it keeps appearing. I have yet to see a positive review of it, people have problems syncing the devices up. Why keep supporting it? It does make sense...

German Blu Ray Trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlQbdYLEU_c

DC Fan wrote:German Blu Ray Trailer

This is the fourth time the same trailer has been posted. It must be some sort of record.