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Sotiris wrote:Besides the Toy Story trilogy, it seems to me that they're recasting their characters into sequels that belong to a different movie genre than the original film. Just like they took the characters from Cars and inserted them into a spy film, they are doing the same with their Monsters characters by inserting them into a college comedy.

Well, you could argue that Monsters Inc was like a work-place comedy, so it might not be as big a jump as what happened with Cars.

Sotiris wrote:Besides the Toy Story trilogy, it seems to me that they're recasting their characters into sequels that belong to a different movie genre than the original film. Just like they took the characters from Cars and inserted them into a spy film, they are doing the same with their Monsters characters by inserting them into a college comedy.

How come WDAS are escaping the sequelitis?

Julian Carter wrote:How come WDAS are escaping the sequelitis?

Well, there are some rumors about Tangled 2, the studios' only hit under the Lasseter administration so far.

It would be so odd for WDAS to suddenly start making sequels, like all the other studios, seeing as most of their output is generally original and non-repetative.

Yet I would be pleased if they'd find something that makes them money and which they can turn to when profits lag. I don't know about you, but I still think WDAS is trailing after the other big animation houses (Pixar, DreamWorks, Blue Sky, Sony).

I doubt there will be more Toy Story movies...3 was sad but it ended in a somewhat good and happy way....

And how would they know it was the right Bo Peep?

jediliz wrote:I doubt there will be more Toy Story movies...

I hope you're right. If Disney and/or Pixar wants to continue Toy Story, do the Toy Story Toons (better substitute than another sequel).

Here's the exact quote from Stanton regarding more Pixar sequels:

“I’m sure you’ll see other sequels to things” – Andrew Stanton on upcoming Pixar projects.

Source: http://www.slashfilm.com/hero-complex-f ... haun-dead/

So there is gonna be a fourth one?

I don't understand how Disney sequels are lampooned and hated, when Pixar is fully embracing them ? I know one or the other doesn't make it right, it just seems bizzare is all.

I mean, if Disney were allowed to pump money and time into them, I think they could ahieve just as much as Pixar. I mean, looks at Tangled Ever After; a fun, sweet short from the original team involved. It leaves me no doubt that an actual sequel would be marvellous.

Toy Story Shorts = yes.
Toy Story 2 = hell to the NO.

And, thinking about it, having shorts of some Classic Disney would keep the characters alive and fresh, no ? Without having a full blown sequel, especially if the original creative team aren't around. I mean hell, even Walt was planning a seven dwarfs short, no ?

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:I don't understand how Disney sequels are lampooned and hated, when Pixar is fully embracing them ? I know one or the other doesn't make it right, it just seems bizzare is all.

For me, the difference is that all of Pixar's films have been original whereas nearly all of Disney's have been adaptations of someone else's stories. Sequels to Disney's films would seem to be against the original creator's choice, whereas Pixar's sequels typically have the original creators on hand to work on or over-see the creation of the film.

Beyond that, I don't think many would object to a sequel from Disney that would have had the same production quality as the original.

Many pan the DTV sequels of DAC's, but not Fantasia 2000 and the likes. To further show my point, there aren't THAT many people excited about Planes, which will be a spin-off DTV film based on Pixar's Cars.

I think having shorts for DAC characters would be splendid! It would be kind of neat seeing a snippet of Snow White adjusting to life as royalty and the Dwarves visiting her, Sebastian trying to pull together another concert, or Peter Pan and the Lost Boys on a mini adventure. In fact, aren't the animated series based on these films basically the same idea?

The only Pixar film that I would want to see a sequel to is The Incredibles; the stories in A Bug's Life, Ratatouille, WALL-E and Up were pretty much wrapped up and didn't really offer an opportunity for a sequel but I could see them doing something with Finding Nemo, possibly a story where Marlin goes missing and Nemo and Dory have to find him. But before any sequels get produced, we do have three original films to look forward to in The Good Dinosaur, Pete Docter's film inside the mind and Lee Unkrich's Dia de los Muertos film. For me, these all sound like very interesting and exciting films and if Brad Bird were to revisit the world that he created in The Incredibles, I would be very happy.

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:I mean, if Disney were allowed to pump money and time into them, I think they could ahieve just as much as Pixar.

I think this pretty much answers the question you asked regarding Disney's sequels. If time, care and money were put into future Disney sequels then I would be all for them.

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:And, thinking about it, having shorts of some Classic Disney would keep the characters alive and fresh, no ?

This sounds like a great idea to me.

I do wonder what it would have been like for the DAC to have received proper sequels....and by that I mean time and money be put into them.

When Cinderella: A Twist In Time and Ariel's Beginning had more money spent on them, it certainly showed.

Imagine if, for the more modern films where the creative teams are around, they all came together to do a short ? It would be so wonderful !

I know the same creative teams are around for PIXAR, but it just seems a shame to flog their films to death, and to ignore Disney....Wasnt Toy Story voted on of/if not THE best trio of films ever ?Why spoil it!

Ed Catmull wrote:When we first started, sequels were considered a bad idea. The film that changed everything was “Toy Story 2.” What we discovered with that is that a sequel is no easier to make than the original. So the way we think about it is this: We should only make it if we have a director that’s passionate to do it. If you don’t have someone with that passion, it’s not the right thing to do.

Source: http://allthingsd.com/20120530/pixars-e ... /?mod=tech

That statement doesn't even make sense. Whoever is assigned to direct a movie needs to be passionate about the project otherwise they are unfit for the job. That applies to all movies. What does it have to do with sequels in particular? Shouldn't the #1 reason behind making sequels be a great story that needs to be told?

Sotiris wrote:

Ed Catmull wrote:When we first started, sequels were considered a bad idea. The film that changed everything was “Toy Story 2.” What we discovered with that is that a sequel is no easier to make than the original. So the way we think about it is this: We should only make it if we have a director that’s passionate to do it. If you don’t have someone with that passion, it’s not the right thing to do.

Source: http://allthingsd.com/20120530/pixars-e ... /?mod=tech

That statement doesn't even make sense. Whichever is assigned to direct a movie needs to be passionate about the project otherwise they are unfit for the job. That applies to all movies. What does it have to do with sequels in particular? Shouldn't the #1 reason behind making sequels be a great story that needs to be told?

I think what he's trying to say (and failing about saying) is that making a sequel is no different than making an original film. I think he's steamrolling "passionate" into implying that the chosen director for a sequel should be passionate about the story he wants to tell. If he/she's not, then it's probably not a story worth telling.

Every time I see new posts have been made in this thread, I have a mild panic attack over the possibility that Toy Story 4 has been confirmed.

For those still in doubt, behold:

Tim Allen on Doing Another Toy Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcOnLvUkqhg


Toy Story 4 is Disney's best kept secret since Epic Mickey 2.

Oh well, if it does happen I'll be happy as long as it maintains the quality of the three films that preceded it.

Looks like Toy Story 4 and Toy Story 5 will be half hour television specials. That, I'm absolutely okay with.

http://www.bigscreenanimation.com/2012/ ... d-for.html