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Well, I refuse to buy this unless it's a two disc. If anything, I'll rent the one-disc and copy the blasted thing to my computer and then onto a DVD+R. I've done it before (thank you, DVDShrink).

Cheers,
JM

Pluto Region 1 wrote:

Didn't know there were bootlegs out - I assume these are people who are recording off the bit torrent sites, packaging them and selling them on Ebay - which is a pretty dangerous occupation.

If you read my earlier posts, we went to see "Cars" at the theater for the eighth time and when we came out of the theater there was a guy in the parking lot with a trunkload of 'new releases' on DVD. He said they were all "film-chain" recorded and would be far and above anything we could get on-line. Since I don't ever buy anything on-line and I only wanted "Cars", I plunked down the money - $25 - and took the product home, expecting a below average copy. What I got was a pristine 'film-chain' copy complete with a Dolby 5.1 soundtrack and I was blown away. No extra special features, just "One Man Band". It will do until November 7th.

Pluto Region 1 wrote:

I know this is off-topic, but wow, DVDjunkie so you jumped right in with a purchase of a Blu-Ray player? So what is coming out in that format that you can play on that? Have you been able to purchase any movies made for BluRay? How's the quality of that when you view non-HD quality DVDs on there?

I was in Best Buy one day and they made me an offer that I couldn't refuse. Buy the new Blu-Ray for $859, get five free movies of my choice, and they would deliver it to my home by the end of the week. I had already had an HD-DVD player and it was more trouble than it was worth, so I said why not. I will tell you, if you have a good Hi-Def Monitor, your current DVD's will look like Hi-Def DVD's, no question. And the sound will blow you out of your house. Even my cheesy 'bootleg' copy of "Cars" looks amazing played through this system. I only have two titles in actual Blu-Ray - "Hitch", and "RV" - and they are very good. The Blu-Ray technology I am sure will soon catch up to the already burgeoning HD-DVD, and then the fight will be on. I don't care which side wins, Blu-Ray is backwards compatible so I will never have to worry about having a DVD player to play my 3000+ DVD's on.

I had no idea that BluRay was backwards compatible. Thanks for giving me some insight, Bill, I actually am going to start saving for a BluRay player now.

Cheers,
JM

dvdjunkie wrote: there was a guy in the parking lot with a trunkload of 'new releases' on DVD. He said they were all "film-chain" recorded and would be far and above anything we could get on-line. Since I don't ever buy anything on-line and I only wanted "Cars", I plunked down the money - $25

Wow, that is incredible that a guy is that brazen to be selling pirated DVDs out of his trunk, on site at a movie house! Unbelievable. I don't know that I would have chanced buying one, but it sounds like he turned out to "stand by his product" eh?

dvdjunkie wrote:I had already had an HD-DVD player and it was more trouble than it was worth...

What kind was this that doesn't work so good so I can tell my husband (so we won't buy it). Is it the brand or technology that's not working, I wonder?

dvdjunkie wrote:I will tell you, if you have a good Hi-Def Monitor, your current DVD's will look like Hi-Def DVD's, no question. And the sound will blow you out of your house. Even my cheesy 'bootleg' copy of "Cars" looks amazing played through this system..... I don't care which side wins, Blu-Ray is backwards compatible so I will never have to worry about having a DVD player to play my 3000+ DVD's on.

This is all good stuff to know. Thanks!

dvdjunkie wrote:

I had already had an HD-DVD player and it was more trouble than it was worth...

Pluto Region 1 wrote:

What kind was this that doesn't work so good so I can tell my husband (so we won't buy it). Is it the brand or technology that's not working, I wonder?

It was a Toshiba......and it would stop for no reason in the middle of movies, and on dual layer discs it would freeze up between layers, and you would have to start over again because it wouldn't read past where it stopped. They are saying that they have fixed that problem, but now that I have a Blu-Ray, I am not interested.

I think all Junkie was saying was that if you really do love this movie so much, the petition seems rather silly. I agree to an extent. Frankly, I'll say it again, I don't see why people are making a big deal out of this release. It's not like it's the first time Disney's(or any company) has ever released a single disc DVD of a popular movie and then latter release a double-dip. I mean, we still haven't gotten Lilo and Stitch, and no one has complained about this(or any) "bad" release like they've had with Cars.

magicalwands wrote:Now I still stand by the petition, but remember what we could really lose here. I would much rather have a 1-disc now and a 2-disc later that both include the scene the train organization wants to cut, than only a 2-disc release with the scene deleted.

Like Luke said, I think chances of that happening are non-existant. Disney(and Pixar) have had many lawsuits and complaints in the past, and a lot of them didn't make any change.

Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:I think all Junkie was saying was that if you really do love this movie so much, the petition seems rather silly. I agree to an extent. Frankly, I'll say it again, I don't see why people are making a big deal out of this release. It's not like it's the first time Disney's(or any company) has ever released a single disc DVD of a popular movie and then latter release a double-dip. I mean, we still haven't gotten Lilo and Stitch, and no one has complained about this(or any) "bad" release like they've had with Cars.

The outcry about the Cars single-disc edition is mostly because Pixar usually does a superb job with their DVDs. Their last three movies have been 2-disc sets right away, and the other three have received great editions as well. The merger should not be an excuse for a DVD release below Pixar's usual standards.

As for Lilo and Stitch, I am still patiently waiting for the 2-disc set. It helps that I did not care too much for the movie to begin with, but even if I did, I could wait because the 2-disc edition is already planned and even available overseas.

I wouldn't even be upset if Disney would just let us know their plans. If New Line can tell us about 2 versions of the Lord of the Rings DVDs (leaving aside the limited editions nonsense for the moment) in advance, then Disney should be able to let us know if a 2-disc set is in the works or not.

If it's a month or two until the release of Ratatouille and the Cars 2-Disc set hasn't been announced yet, I'll probably buy the one-discer. I really want to own this movie, but I've double-dipped way to many times in the past, and I don't want to have to do it again. (However, if I do buy the 1-disc set and a 2-disc set comes out, I'll probably buy it again anyway).

As for the petition, I really doubt that it will change Disney's plans for this film (they've already put work into the DVD, I doubt they'll drop everything to appease this minority group of protesters). But, I do think the petition a very good thing, because hopefully it will prevent this from happening next time. I could really see this becoming a tradition at Disney: release a Pixar film as a 1-disc set in the Winter, then re-release it as a 2-disc set closer to the release of their next film. But I don't want to wait 10-12 months to get a satisfactory DVD. Hopefully because of this petition, Ratatouille (and future Pixar releases) will get the DVD release they deserve the first time around!

BrandonH wrote: The outcry about the Cars single-disc edition is mostly because Pixar usually does a superb job with their DVDs. Their last three movies have been 2-disc sets right away, and the other three have received great editions as well. The merger should not be an excuse for a DVD release below Pixar's usual standards.

Well, I was a little disappointed by the Finding Nemo DVD, (and not just because of the film ) I really didn't think the discs Pixar put together were that great (and again, you wacky Americans with the Full-Frame version taking up valuable disc space).

On the other had, bar the odd exception (I'm Looking at you Lion King, and you the ESPN nonsense on Cinderella) Disney's done 2 disc just as good as Pixar's 2 disc sets. I still regard Atlantis as the definitive "modern day" Disney DVD release, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs as the definitive "archive" Disney DVD release. Personally, I would put many Disney 2 Disc DVDs over Pixar's. Perhaps even the 2 disc Lilo and Stitch even, because that has a wonderfully intimate "making of", which is much more personal than anything on a Pixar DVD to date. I know people scoff at Chicken Little, but a 2 disc release of Chicken Little had the potential to be much more interesting and informative than a 2 disc Cars being as it would document the beginning of CGI at Disney. Like the old "How we make a Cartoon", "Production Progression Multi-Angle" and "Art of Storyboarding" featurettes on most traditional Disney 2 disc DVDs, There's not really much Pixar can put on their discs about the physical production process that would be new.

So, yes - when Disney stopped releasing 2 discs sets with their single disc sets (like they used to with Tarzan, Dinosaur, The Emperor's New Groove and the wonderful Atlantis) I think we did loose something just as important, if not more important, than Pixar's 2 disc sets.

2099net wrote:I know people scoff at Chicken Little, but a 2 disc release of Chicken Little had the potential to be much more interesting and informative than a 2 disc Cars being as it would document the beginning of CGI at Disney.

I think people would be depressed to hear Disney is doing 3d animation. Plus, Cars has a whole backstory with Route 66. All Chicken Little can talk about is the folk tale it came from and I bet Disney would gather people up to tell how differently they each heard the story.

2099net wrote:Like the old "How we make a Cartoon", "Production Progression Multi-Angle" and "Art of Storyboarding" featurettes on most traditional Disney 2 disc DVDs, There's not really much Pixar can put on their discs about the physical production process that would be new.

I don't think Disney has anything new to talk about the process of making a 2d film either. And if they talked about the 3d process, it would be repeating everything Pixar talked about in their dvds.

2099net wrote:So, yes - when Disney stopped releasing 2 discs sets with their single disc sets (like they used to with Tarzan, Dinosaur, The Emperor's New Groove and the wonderful Atlantis) I think we did loose something just as important, if not more important, than Pixar's 2 disc sets.

Pixar films are just as important as any other Disney film, and vice versa. To say only a few one disc films of Disney are better than Pixar's dvds combined is unfair. Pixar puts just as much heart into their films as Disney. It's stupid you're attacking Pixar just because Finding Nemo got a 2-Disc in 2003/04 and Disney only started doing one discs for their Special Editions last year.

Well you said "The outcry about the Cars single-disc edition is mostly because Pixar usually does a superb job with their DVDs." and as I pointed out, so did Disney.

Am I bashing Pixar, or are you putting Pixar on a pedestal?

I don't think Disney has anything new to talk about the process of making a 2d film either. And if they talked about the 3d process, it would be repeating everything Pixar talked about in their dvds.

No they wouldn't. Because they would be talking about people making their first 3D film. How they had to change from doing traditional animation to computer animation. What they had to learn, what they thought they could carry over.

Pixar is full of people who have made a number of computer movies. Just like the "how we make an animated film" bits got a bit boring on the old Disney DVDs, the same is happening with the Pixar DVDs. Chicken Little could have given the format a fresh new look.

To say only a few one disc films of Disney are better than Pixar's dvds combined is unfair.

What does this mean, and when did I say it?

2099net wrote:Am I bashing Pixar, or are you putting Pixar on a pedestal?

No, I think Cars deserves a 2-disc. It's sort of like Pocahontas-Lion King. Cars is Pocahontas, while, The Incredibles is Lion King. People didn't like Cars or Pocahontas much because it taught a lesson, which I think is lame because both movies are good. But I was a little Pixar overboard in that post.

No they wouldn't. Because they would be talking about people making their first 3D film. How they had to change from doing traditional animation to computer animation. What they had to learn, what they thought they could carry over.

I don't think it's a good idea to make it though, not because it won't be good, but because people are angry enough Disney threw away 2d animation.

2099net wrote:

To say only a few one disc films of Disney are better than Pixar's dvds combined is unfair.

What does this mean, and when did I say it?

"I think we did loose something just as important, if not more important, than Pixar's 2 disc sets." I don't think it's fair to say Disney films deserve 2-discs while Pixar films don't. That's what I meant.

I did not mean to imply a lack of quality in Disney DVDs in my earlier post. When Disney does a DVD right, they do a spectacular job. However, they have made some disappointing choices in their offerings lately, such as the single-disc reissues and the last two Platinums.

I judge Pixar by a different standard because there have only been six movies of theirs released on DVD so far. All six received releases that were at or above what was considered standard at that point in time. The Cars disc in November falls below the supplement standard for a major release film in 2006. This is the first Pixar DVD to do so, so that makes it even more disappointing to me.

Ideally, every Disney and Pixar animated film would have a decent release the first time around. That is my goal, and I'm sorry if any of my previous comments led you to believe otherwise. I want a 2-disc release for Chicken Little, Cars, Meet the Robinsons, and Ratatouille.

Actually, I'm not picky about disc count. Just give us something as feature-laden as Treasure Planet, and I'll be happy.

I just came across this on EzyDVD.com.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/788498





Now, why can't they do something like this for the American release of Cars on DVD? I would have considered picking up the single-disc release, if it came with that awesome tin!

Though I do wish this release was a 2-discer, I'll still be picking up a copy on November 7th. After all, it's the movie that counts. Plus, I want my Pixar collection to be complete.

MadonnasManOne wrote:I just came across this on EzyDVD.com.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/788498

What--what--WHAT?? "Also available in an Exclusive 2-disc Set"?!?

At first I thought the tin would be cool...but now I couldn't care less about the tin as long as US gets that second disc!!

PixarFan wrote:

MadonnasManOne wrote:I just came across this on EzyDVD.com.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/788498

What--what--WHAT?? "Also available in an Exclusive 2-disc Set"?!?

At first I thought the tin would be cool...but now I couldn't care less about the tin as long as US gets that second disc!!

Damn you beat me to it! I just posted news about this in international DVD. Yes Australia, and only EzyDVD Australia, will be getting a 2 disc set. It looks to have features that the American version doesn't have. I guess this means a 2 disc set will come out in region 1 at some point later?

Oh, I didn't even notice the information about a 2-Disc set! This really bites! So, not only do we not get that tin, but, we aren't getting the Two-Disc set. Who said Region 1 always got the best DVD releases? Well, they were WRONG!

Yet another reason I'm not buying the single-disc release. There is no doubt in my mind that a Two-Disc set will be released, at some point.

It's surprised the hell out of me. We never, and I mean never, get better editions of DVDs here in Australia ESPECIALLY Disney stuff. The recent release of Lady & The Tramp here in Australia was only a single disc with special features missing and horrible ugly cover art.

Just to let everyone EzyDVD does ship internationally if you are that interested in getting it.

I wouldn't get too excited about the bonus disc. It's unlikely to be a full disc from a 2 disc set. It's more likely to be like the Best Buy etc bonus discs over in the US. Perhaps it will just have a TV special on or something.