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Jackoleen wrote:

No. The Disney Company was always fearful of offending good Americans during World War Two, and ever since, they've been creating heroes who are, with regards to their LOOKS, at least, "morally sound, clean-shaven good guys"

Hi, new here. I've always wondered if Disney was afraid/against setting their stories in Germany or having overly German looking characters. I'm sure there have been some, but it seems like they make things more French than German.

I am in love with Tangled so far! I have been reading this bored for a while! Every since I was a little girl Rapunzel was my favorite story and I hoped Disney would make it into a featured film.

LucilleBallFilms wrote:

Semaj wrote:

I had to make my own

(Full Giant Size: http://oi52.tinypic.com/21e0thf.jpg)

Ohh! She does look like Ariel a good deal. Can someone make one of her sitting on the tower top with her hair hanging over, but color it a brown like Belles? Could you maybe make a few with her that show her long hair and color it brown?

pap64 wrote: Princess and the Frog tried too hard to sell itself for hardcore Disney fanatics who longed for classic animation and thus ended performing poorly. .

I'm not sure about that. Unless you mean "online Disney fanatics who ignore marketing ads and commercials." Nothing that was shown on TV or in theaters was marketed to Disney fanatics or lovers of traditional animation or the old style of Disney films. In fact, I was ready to hate the film from all the horribly bad advertisements. I'm sure many other Disney fanatics were repelled as well.

On the one hand, I want Tangled to do well, just because it's Disney. But I have a feeling that if it does, we'll get a huge dose of Lassater smugness and Pixar superiority about how they saved Disney animation. Topped with a "3D must just sell better" mind-set and a "we need snappy, modern jokes to keep people interested" attitude.

Anyone like fandubbing? I made a Rapunzel Fandub Ready
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd403jjee28

Disney's Divinity wrote:

pap64 wrote: Princess and the Frog tried too hard to sell itself for hardcore Disney fanatics who longed for classic animation and thus ended performing poorly. .

I'm not sure about that. Unless you mean "online Disney fanatics who ignore marketing ads and commercials." Nothing that was shown on TV or in theaters was marketed to Disney fanatics or lovers of traditional animation or the old style of Disney films. In fact, I was ready to hate the film from all the horribly bad advertisements. I'm sure many other Disney fanatics were repelled as well.

Did you see the same ads I did? they totally played up the "return to hand drawn animation".

Rapunzel's Journal Scan
http://community.livejournal.com/d_prin ... 90735.html

That's funny!

Bytheway, Dutch people, have you heard anything about the dutch Rapunzel soundtrack yet? I haven't, so i've just been making up the song lyrics by translating the english ones and making them rhyme.
like this

I’ve got a dream, I’ve got a dream
I just want to see the floating lanterns gleam
And with every passing hour
I’m so glad I left my tower
Like all you lovely folks I’ve got a dream

Ik heb een droom, Ik heb een droom
Dat heeft toch iedereen, dat is gewoon
En als sinds ik ben geboren
Zat ik vast in die hoge toren
Maar nu zal ‘k de lichtjes zien, dat is mijn droom

I have dreams like you, no really!
Just much less touchy feely
They mainly happen somewhere warm and sunny
On an island that I own, tanned and rested and alone
Surrounded by enormous piles of money

Ik heb ook dromen, nee echt
Ook iets waar ik echt voor vecht
Ik zal je eens vertellen wat mijn droom is
Een eiland alleen van mij, lekker rustig, dan ben ik blij
Vol met hopen geld, zonder gevangenis

xD It's not very good or anything

Disney's Divinity wrote:I'm not sure about that. Unless you mean "online Disney fanatics who ignore marketing ads and commercials." Nothing that was shown on TV or in theaters was marketed to Disney fanatics or lovers of traditional animation or the old style of Disney films. In fact, I was ready to hate the film from all the horribly bad advertisements. I'm sure many other Disney fanatics were repelled as well.

this trailer catered to those classic disney fans

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I just saw the first 40 minutes of this and was really impressed. For those wondering how that happened and why only 40, it's because my church meets in a local movie theater. I'm part of my church's production team and today was assigned to work the lights up in the projection room.

While I was up there, the manager came in and turned one of the other projectors on, which I found odd since my church meets before the theater opens to the general public. I figured it might've been a private screening for a birthday party or something. I walked over to the projector and saw previews playing in 3-D. Since they were all for family films, I figured this might've been Megamind. Then a new trailer for Cars 2 came up, and that's when I realized that this was Tangled. Scrambling around the projection room, I searched for a pair of 3-D glasses and finally found one in time.

Unfortunately, I was only able to watch the first 40 minutes because my church has two services, and I needed to go back to the other end of the room to work on the lights for the second service. Luckily, I don't feel slighted because the point where I left off is the perfect place to do so. It was the scene where Mother Gothel discovers Rapunzel's left the tower. So it made for a nice cliffhanger.

Now, my thoughts. As someone who loved The Princess and the Frog, I'm going to say right now that what I saw is stronger than that film. One noticeable difference between the two is pacing. While the prologue for Tangled is very quick, things settle in once we flash forward to the present whereas Princess and the Frog felt pretty rushed throughout. Scenes are allowed to breathe here, many of them happening in real time.

My favorite comedic scene was after Rapunzel leaves the tower and sings her first reprise of "When Will My Life Begin?" (which was gorgeously staged, by the way). We cut to a montage of her having inner conflict over her decision. One shot of her has her worried about what she's done, then we cut to her happily running around, then cut to her panicked, then her acting willy nilly. It goes on like this for about 30 seconds while Flynn just stands there unresponsive (this is where the "Best. Day. Ever!" bit comes from). It's absolutely hilarious.

Mother Gothel is a really fascinating character. I got the feeling that she really has grown to love Rapunzel the person, even if she's not terribly good at showing it. The presentation of "Mother Knows Best" was fantastic. She turns off all the lights in the room and messes with Rapunzel's head, using illustrations and shadows to visualize the horrors outside the tower. She randomly disappears and reappears from the darkness, setting Rapunzel on edge. Very well done.

Flynn's a lot of fun as the trailers have already demonstrated. Funnily enough, we don't see a great deal of him in the first 40 minutes that we haven't already seen from trailers and clips. The first half is very Rapunzel/Gothel centric.

Speaking of Rapunzel, I like her character. I was afraid that she's come across too similarly to other Disney heroines, and having a similar conflict as Quasimodo didn't help, either. They managed to make her personality distinctive and her predicament different from Quasi's. I'd say she's the spunkiest Disney princess so far, considerably more hyper and perky than anyone who's come before her. If I had to find other characters to describe her, I'd say she's a mix between Ariel and Jesse from Toy Story.

I'm really eager to see the rest of it this weekend, but I can already say I like this better than pretty much any other animated film Disney's done since Lilo & Stitch. Even though I already know what happens in the second half thanks to different storybooks, I still hope it holds up as well as the first half.

Oh, and one more thing: We can officially count Dinosaur as a Walt Disney Animation Studios film. The WDAS logo that comes before Tangled has been altered to acknowledge that this is Disney's 50th animated feature.

The When will my life begin bit sounds very interesting thankyou!!

Disneykid wrote: Oh, and one more thing: We can officially discredit Dinosaur as a Walt Disney Animation Studios film. The WDAS logo that comes before Tangled has been altered to acknowledge that this is Disney's 50th animated feature.

Will the logo be like a montage of all the disney films or something?

Oh, and one more thing: We can officially discredit Dinosaur as a Walt Disney Animation Studios film. The WDAS logo that comes before Tangled has been altered to acknowledge that this is Disney's 50th animated feature.

Actually, if you use the list on this webpage:

http://www.disneyanimation.com/aboutus/history.html

The Princess and the Frog is number 49 (making Tangled number 50) and that is with Dinosaur on the list.

Throwing Dinosaur out would make Tangled number 49 (unless there is another movie not on this list that takes its place).

Oh, snap, you're right. For some reason, I had it in my head that Tangled was 50 without Dinosaur, not with it. That's kind of disconcerting as I've never considered Dinosaur as part of the official canon list despite what Disney put on their site (they incorrectly date Emperor's New Groove as 2001, so I was taking that page with a grain of salt). Thanks for the correction, though. I've fixed my post to reflect it.

DisneyDude2010 wrote:Will the logo be like a montage of all the disney films or something?

No, nothing that cool. It's the same Steamboat Willie intro. When we zoom out of it, the image shrinks smaller than usual till we see that the Steamboat Williie clip is inside of a "0." As we continue to zoom out, we see a giant "50" and the words something to the effect of "Walt Disney Animation Studio's 50th Feature."

Disneykid, if it is any consolation, I wish I was not right about that one!

Uh guys? Apparently that article was not entirely correct in what it said. This in from ImDB:

Disney just posted this on facebook:

A headline in today’s LA Times erroneously reported that the Disney fairy tale is a thing of the past, but I feel it is important to set the record straight that they are alive and well at Disney and continue this week with Tangled, a contemporary retelling of a much loved story. We have a number of projects in development with new twists that audiences will be able to enjoy for many years to come. - Ed Catmull

So, you can all breathe a big sigh of relief now.

Breaking News:
A headline in today’s LA Times erroneously reported that the Disney fairy tale is a thing of the past, but I feel it is important to set the record straight that they are alive and well at Disney and continue this week with Tangled, a contemporary retelling of a much loved story. We have a number of projects in development with new twists that audiences will be able to enjoy for many years to come. - Ed Catmull

YAY!

DisneyDude2010 wrote:Breaking News:
A headline in today’s LA Times erroneously reported that the Disney fairy tale is a thing of the past, but I feel it is important to set the record straight that they are alive and well at Disney and continue this week with Tangled, a contemporary retelling of a much loved story. We have a number of projects in development with new twists that audiences will be able to enjoy for many years to come. - Ed Catmull

YAY!

So happy to hear that. I was kinda depressed yesterday after reading the LA Times article. It just shows we shouldn't alway believe articles that much.

taoayumu wrote:

DisneyDude2010 wrote:Breaking News:
A headline in today’s LA Times erroneously reported that the Disney fairy tale is a thing of the past, but I feel it is important to set the record straight that they are alive and well at Disney and continue this week with Tangled, a contemporary retelling of a much loved story. We have a number of projects in development with new twists that audiences will be able to enjoy for many years to come. - Ed Catmull

YAY!

So happy to hear that. I was kinda depressed yesterday after reading the LA Times article. It just shows we shouldn't alway believe articles that much.

Yeah, I hope the La Times is happy for upsetting a ton of people.

Quoting a character from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory:

"Can you imagine that guy trying to fool the world?"

I knew it was bogus. They said Disney is shying away from musicals and then go on to mention next years Winnie the Pooh... which they probably don't know is also a musical.

taoayumu wrote:

DisneyDude2010 wrote:Breaking News:
A headline in today’s LA Times erroneously reported that the Disney fairy tale is a thing of the past, but I feel it is important to set the record straight that they are alive and well at Disney and continue this week with Tangled, a contemporary retelling of a much loved story. We have a number of projects in development with new twists that audiences will be able to enjoy for many years to come. - Ed Catmull

YAY!

So happy to hear that. I was kinda depressed yesterday after reading the LA Times article. It just shows we shouldn't alway believe articles that much.

You were depressed? I was so completely mortified that I couldn't bring myself to go to bed till nearly five in the morning!