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Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:55 am**

http://perezhilton.com/2012-08-06-new-d ... #shadowbox

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:18 am**

Did we know it would have a princess?

I don't like the idea. Deviates too much IMO in an attempt to copy Tangled... can't they be a little original??

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:33 am**

Lnds500 wrote:Did we know it would have a princess?

I don't like the idea. Deviates too much IMO in an attempt to copy Tangled... can't they be a little original??

No, we are not sure that it will have a princess. I am guessing that we won't have actual royalty, though whether Disney designates the protagonist to be a 'Disney Princess' anyway is impossible to predict.

Don't really see the similarities to Tangled. Of course, the information available to us is still very limited and we cannot make any judgement calls on the movie yet.

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:55 am**

Remember, Perez Hilton isn't always right! (Remember the OZ Flying Monkey?)
As there is no official confirmation, I think people are presuming and confusing Princess with Heroine. But It's most likely there will be a Princess.

Also Why on earth would there be "Potty" humor in Frozen. WIR and Frozen are completely different movies.

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:01 am**

Disneyphile wrote:http://perezhilton.com/2012-08-06-new-d ... #shadowbox

Sorry, but I've never taken Perez Hilton seriously. I dislike that wimp.

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:13 am**

Lnds500 wrote:Did we know it would have a princess?

Apparentely, Anna and the Snow Queen are sisters. So, Anna might be a princess after all.

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:06 am**

disneyprincess11 wrote:
Lnds500 wrote:Did we know it would have a princess?
Apparentely, Anna and the Snow Queen are sisters. So, Anna might be a princess after all.

I assume "The Snow Queen" is not an official legal title but rather a nickname. Thus, she would not be considered royalty and neither would her siblings or any other relatives.

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:29 am**

qindarka wrote:I assume "The Snow Queen" is not an official legal title but rather a nickname. Thus, she would not be considered royalty and neither would her siblings or any other relatives.

Quite possible but Kristen Bell referred to her character as a princess.

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 044#611044

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:41 am**

For now, I think she may simply be using the word princess to refer to a Disney female character as the general public and the company themselves are wont to do. Not sure if she had started work yet when she said that so she may not have been fully familiar with her role.

Of course, she may well turn out to be a princess but I don't think we should take it for granted yet.

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:54 am**

Some Web Sites say they have new images to Disney's frozen. But when I saw the pics, they were just old concept images from the cancelled snow queen movie from last dacade! Don't these sites now that they were old pics? The Frozen logo image mad me laugh! Disney does not even use the "Walt Disney Pictures Presents" title any more! If this was a joke, not funny! Almost as back as the fart jokes in Wreck-It Ralph!

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:55 pm**

New info: There will be a a princely male character named Hans!

August 07, 2012

While much of the studio is decked out with Ralph-themed items (including a full arcade with a rotating selection of cabinet games), some areas are beginning to be converted to celebrate Frozen, the studio’s November 27, 2013 release which features the voices of Kristen Bell and Idina Menzel. Loosely inspired by Hans Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen," the film will feature songs written by Robert Lopez and Kristen Anderson-Lopez.

To help bring about the look of Frozen, the design team traveled to Norway (where the film is set), Jackson Hole and Quebec, taking in the chilliest experiences they could and even staying in ice hotels. Like Tangled, the character designs seem very inspired by Disney's traditional animation, and in addition to the leading characters of Elsa (Menzel) and Anna (Bell), there were drawings of a princely male character, Hans, a fellow named Kristoff described as being “Anna's partner in crime," a goofy-looking talking snowman named Olaf and Sven, a mangy but lovable reindeer.

Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93341

Honor Hunter wrote:Disney marketing wants to stay as far away from royal titles as possible for fear of young boys not buying tickets. Tangled reinforced this idea, at least domestically it did. Nothing with a Queen or Princess will make it out as a title. A title with King in it could make it out though, but nothing as of yet is in the production pipeline.

While it is based on that classic tale, it's very, very loosely based on it. Think along the lines of "Tangled" and how little it resembles the fairy tale of "Rapunzel." The bare bones of that story is all that is intact and the rest of the story is entirely original. But the script was well enough to get the green light and move it ahead of "King of the Elves," which is no longer in production. John Lasseter feels strongly about the story, and the direction that Chris Buck is taking the narrative.

Yes, it is computer animated, not hand drawn, but the style is quite beautiful and evolved from traditional graphics that we expect in these films. Think about the swirly painted sets/backgrounds in Tangled that appear like they were taken out of a classical painting. Frozen will advance and alter this as well, but in a different direction (but not as much as Paperman, which you'll understand when you see it).

But the film that comes out next year will show you that the current state of Disney Animation is quite healthy...

Source: http://www.blueskydisney.com/2012/08/still-frozen.html

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:31 pm**

DisneyEra wrote:Almost as back as the fart jokes in Wreck-It Ralph!

Why not wait until you actually see the film before being too critical of one aspect of it?

Disappointing to hear that King of the Elves is out of production at the moment but hopefully it will remain in some kind of development and the problems with it will be worked out soon. Everything I've read about Frozen so far sounds great and it's good to hear that John Lasseter continues to be a positive influence at WDAS. It's purely a guess but I think the Hans character might be a kind of comedic character who mistakenly sees himself as a suitor for the Snow Queen.

Posted: **Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:47 pm**

Of course its a shoutout to Hans Christian Anderson of course.I wonder if this prince fellow will actually be a suitor for the Snow Queen or Anna.I wonder if he will be a jerk or a lovable dork.

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:41 am**

DisneyAnimation88 wrote:
DisneyEra wrote:Almost as back as the fart jokes in Wreck-It Ralph!
Why not wait until you actually see the film before being too critical of one aspect of it?

Disappointing to hear that King of the Elves is out of production at the moment but hopefully it will remain in some kind of development and the problems with it will be worked out soon. Everything I've read about Frozen so far sounds great and it's good to hear that John Lasseter continues to be a positive influence at WDAS. It's purely a guess but I think the Hans character might be a kind of comedic character who mistakenly sees himself as a suitor for the Snow Queen.

Wasn't Wreck-It Ralph suppose to be the film that was more like Pixar? 1 or 2 fart jokes is fine, but lots!? I'm still very excited about Wreck-It Ralph, but lots of fart jokes just seems unnecessary.

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:28 am**

That is interesting, Yes obviously a reference to Anderson. Could this be Elsa's love interest I wonder?.....

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:49 am**

DisneyDude2010 wrote:That is interesting, Yes obviously a reference to Anderson. Could this be Elsa's love interest I wonder?.....

I'm thinking maybe Kristoff would be the love interest of Elsa? In the fairy tale, the SQ kidnaps the boy and the girl/Anna has to save him from her. So, I wonder if they'll keep that in to make it more true to the fairy tale.

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:22 am**

Or there could be no romantic element at all. I really don't see the point of speculating about possible romances when all we have to go on are the names of the characters.

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:13 pm**

qindarka wrote:Or there could be no romantic element at all. I really don't see the point of speculating about possible romances when all we have to go on are the names of the characters.

Given that its a Disney fairy tale, I would guess that its safe to assume that there'll be some kind of romantic subplot in the film, most probably between Anna and Kristoff. Until we know more about the film, all we really can do is speculate which can be fun.

Posted: **Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:42 am**

Hans Christian Andersen
Hans Kristoff Anna

Scamander wrote: Let's hope but I'm not so sure about it. While Tangled had a beautiful location, it was clearly not German but Mediterranean. Still a little pissed off about it.
On the other hand, they can't really relocate the Snow Queen to Spain.

I disagree. I don't know if it was German or not , but definitely not Mediterranean. The film had too many forests

Posted: **Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:52 am**

Lnds500 wrote:Hans Christian Andersen
Hans Kristoff Anne

I'd never noticed that before. To make it even closer they could have gone with Hans, Kristina and Anders

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Lnds500 wrote:I disagree. I don't know if it was German or not , but definitely not Mediterranean.

The Art of Tangled book does say that they took their inspiration from classical Bavarian designs and that they used the art style of Pinocchio as a reference point. I read an interview with the directors (in a D23 magazine I think) where they said something along the lines of them using the architecture of Disneyland's Fantasyland as a basis for the style of Tangled and that particular Fantasyland is heavily influence by a Bavarian style.

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