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taei wrote: Elsa dies and gets resurrected on screen. It's the same effect as Anna freezing in the first movie.
Olaf is off-screen.... obvs for the kids lol

so when does Anna sing her song?

JeanGreyForever wrote: Thank you for confirming. I heard we do see Olaf melt onscreen though but maybe I misconstrued that.

We only see some snow flakes flurry out of Olaf but then the shot gets burry and we see the trail of snow coming out of a cave.

farerb wrote:

taei wrote: Elsa dies and gets resurrected on screen. It's the same effect as Anna freezing in the first movie.
Olaf is off-screen.... obvs for the kids lol

so when does Anna sing her song?

Elsa dies, Olaf dies, and Anna sings right after.

Frozen 2's box office opening is smashing records!

‘Frozen 2’ Set To Ice ‘Toy Story 4’ For Toon Global Opening Weekend Record With $242M+
https://deadline.com/2019/11/frozen-2-g ... 202790701/

How Disney Turned ‘Frozen 2’ Into Biggest Global Toon Debut Of All-Time With $358M+
https://deadline.com/2019/11/frozen-2-o ... 202792831/

‘Frozen 2’ Even Hotter With $358M+ Global Bow; Biggest Animated Opening Ever WW & Overseas
https://deadline.com/2019/11/frozen-2-o ... 202791912/

‘Frozen 2’ Has the Biggest Global Animated Debut of All Time
https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/fr ... -all-time/

And then Toy Story 5 will take it back. And then Frozen 3 will take it back.

That’s if Zootopia 2 doesn't compete with them at some point.

The first episode of the "Inside Frozen 2" podcast is out.

https://abcaudio.com/podcasts/inside-frozen-2/

Sotiris wrote:Here are the music videos for the Korean and German end-credit renditions of the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlaaTHpQZSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwKoItY7O04

Thanks, Sotiris! It seems all these international versions are based on the US one by Panic! At The Disco.

Sotiris wrote:Disney has uploaded lyric videos for the songs.

All Is Found
Some Things Never Change
Into the Unknown
When I Am Older
Reindeer(s) Are Better Than People (Cont.)
Lost in the Woods
Show Yourself
The Next Right Thing
Into the Unknown (End Credits)
All Is Found (End Credits)
Lost in the Woods (End Credits)

That's great! In case anyone's interested, in this site you can also find the lyrics of the deleted songs: https://genius.com/albums/Various-artis ... xe-edition

Here are also some details about the songs and fun facts about the movie:
https://twitter.com/stitchkingdom/statu ... 7820684290
https://twitter.com/stitchkingdom/statu ... 2884210688

Sotiris wrote:Another piece of art by Jin Kim. What I've noticed is when he draws digitally, his linework is not as good. But when he draws with a pencil, it's *Italian chef kiss*.

It's true, there's a noticeable difference. In general, I always prefer artwork made the traditional way. Digital drawing technology has advanced a lot in recent years, but it's not the same as when the artist draws on actual paper.

In Hong Kong Disneyland, the meet and greet Anna and Elsa have been updated to their epilogue outfits. Spoiler alert!

https://www.twitter.com/DMK_Blog/status ... 0719297536

James Corden's Crosswalk: The Musical: Frozen/Frozen II:
https://youtu.be/iZeHmnpnlhY

I saw the film and here are some initial thoughts:
I honestly don't know what to think, I didn't hate it but I felt nothing. I feel like this premise could have worked better as a TV series and less as a 103 minutes film. If you want to do an epic fantasy, you can't constrain to so little time.

Everything was so rushed and nothing was allowed to sink in, I couldn't feel Elsa didn't feel like she didn't belong in Arendelle. I couldn't feel Kristoff's frustration cause I didn't get what he expected. There's too much Olaf to my taste, even more than the first film. I don't get why he gets as much focus as Anna and Elsa, he's supposed to be the sidekick.

I felt like time had no real meaning. For instance, it took them some time (days) to get to the Enchanted forest, but at the end Elsa manages somehow to instantly go back to Arendelle and then back. And her start point is even norther than the Enchanted Forest because she went to Athalahan or whatever was the river's name.

The songs - I really liked Kristoff's song in the soundtrack, but it really doesn't fit in the movie. The movie just stops to give us an 80's music video/fan edit video from Youtube. They actually featured unnecessary flashbacks from the first film.
Show Yourself is easily the best scene of the movie. They should have pushed this song instead of Into the Unknown. Into the Unknown wasn't the showstopper I expected but Show Yourself was. It was great.

I feel like this movie could have used a good villain. Maybe someone who wants to try and stop Elsa from becoming the fifth spirit, give it a little more tention. I also wanted her to truly become a fifth spirit and I wanted a more bittersweet ending, like they truly need to say goodbye. That's something that I feel RBTI and Toy Story 4 actually did good. I think maybe they didn't do something like that because of the fans. Also if it takes for Elsa one minute to arrive from Alfafa to Arendelle, I don't see any reason why she can't live in Arendelle and go there and the Enchanted Forest from time to time. But what I don't get is is this really all of Arendelle? A small village by the fjord? Shouldn't it be a Kingdom? Whose domain include the Enchanted Forest and the Northern Mountain and more?

So I don't know I feel like this movie could have been more, but as it is it feels half baked. I'm very disappointed.

Sotiris wrote:The first episode of the "Inside Frozen 2" podcast is out. https://abcaudio.com/podcasts/inside-frozen-2/

So Chris Buck actually lost his son?? What a terrible, terrible incident. Poor guy. My thoughts goes to him and his family.

Sotiris wrote:In Hong Kong Disneyland, the meet and greet Anna and Elsa have been updated to their epilogue outfits. Spoiler alert!

https://www.twitter.com/DMK_Blog/status ... 0719297536

I've heard amazing things about Elsa's final look so I'm glad to get a sneak peak of it. Can't wait to see how she looks in the movie.

Clip of Iduna singing "All Is Found" to young Anna and Elsa: https://youtu.be/ah6z-Iu1Naw?t=266

This is one of the best movies I've ever seen. I am in awe of how good it is. And I am in love with the music.

My husband and I laughed at all of Olaf's funny bits- he's just funny. He's our "cup of tea," we just love him. Kristoff's song is everything. When Sven started singing, it made my week. And the salamander (?)is too cute. I know I missed things, so we definitely need to watch it again. I bawled my eyes out when Olaf flurried. There were lots of tears and lots of laughs. I was proud of all the main characters. What a big journey.

Saw it tonight and I really enjoyed it. I went into it with very low expectations as I didn’t think the original film needed a sequel and it felt like this just was going to be a cash grab. So I was surprised that there was a quality story there. My wife and daughters loved it and said they thought it was better than the first film. I’m not sure whether I agree with that sentiment or not.

In any event, I plan to see this one again and decide from there.

Can't wait for tonight!

The damage has already been done for the costumes. It had spread immediately on my Twitter timeline and almost all of my friends have been spoiled. The costumes are now at Disney World. Smart for Disney to spoil the movie on the day of. But, they're dazzling! Wonder if it's permanent?

http://wdwnt.news/19112207

disneyprincess11 wrote:Can't wait for tonight!

The damage has already been done for the costumes. It had spread immediately on my Twitter timeline and almost all of my friends have been spoiled. The costumes are now at Disney World. Smart for Disney to spoil the movie on the day of. But, they're dazzling! Wonder if it's permanent?

http://wdwnt.news/19112207

Elsa’s is such an improvement over her previous “Let it Go” get-up. I always thought the wig was especially awful.

Saw the first showing of the day this morning...

OMG. I absolutely loved this movie! I was worried that they couldn’t top the first one for me because I adored it but this felt like a whole other level! It had everything! I thought it had a great balance of comedy and heart.

The sequences for “Into the Unknown” and especially “Show Yourself” were just stunning. I got so choked up during the latter as well as during “The Next Right Thing”. I actually really want to go see this again!

No surprise there. It's probably going to take another decade or so but Frozen 3 is inevitable.

Will There Be A ‘Frozen 3’? The Co-Directors Won’t Rule It Out
https://www.bustle.com/p/will-there-be- ... t-19372752

Potentially Mild spoilers in my review , read it at your own risk (but don't worry, the few major spoilers are filled in black here).

I just watched the movie at the earliest hour this morning in IMAX. And as a whole, I'm pretty satisfied with this sequel! If there's something we can agree on, it's that it is not really easy at the moment to find sequels that are relevant and whose existence are actually justified by the first movie. Pixar definitively gave us a whole bunch of those “Was-it-necessary?” sequels, and to me Disney had started to follow that same path with the recent “Ralph Breaks the Internet” (although I have nothing in particular against this movie). I don't care how “good” you judge the sequel to be as a movie. Being good or okay doesn't mean it was NECESSARY (whether you like the picture or not). And every time Disney Animation Studios makes a sequel, it is one missed opportunity to have an original feature with a new universe. One more year in your life when you are given an extension to a world you already know respectful enough towards the first movie, when you could have a whole new universe made by really talented artists!... Well, lucky enough, Frozen II definitively got a little bit of a necessity! Which is very welcomed. And to me, the real reason why it works here, is actually because, they really created another whole new world with the magical forest, a new civilization, and new mystic places. As many of you, I was a bit afraid it wouldn't feel magic enough compared to the first movie.. but, at the end, I think it serves the movie well enough because it allows you to experiment something new. The City of Arendelle is, let's not be afraid to say it, well.. put aside (which makes kind of a huge difference between the Frozen shorts and this sequel). You won't leave the theater having the feeling you spent a lot of time there. You probably won't even feel like there is a lot of connection between Arendelle and the Enchanted Forest except for the obvious plot devices.

So that might be one of the major positive points (or at least something it serves the movie in a way I wouldn't expected). But let's speak of the other positive points to my humble opinion:
I was craving for all the DARK elements this movie!! The more they gave us some, the more I wanted to uncover the story (you could literally make a LIST of them because of how many they are and how regularly they tend to appear throughout the movie). These feed the plot with tragedy and drama, keeping the tension up, and making you feel connected to the story until it ends. Yet talking about any of them is a spoiler. I really felt sorry for Elsa though as she was bullied by the Nokk until the latter VERY LITERALLY INTENDS TO DROWN HER. Sure enough this will give you in good idea of what technically happened in the first movie when King Agnarr and Queen Iduna journeyed through the Dark Sea... Actually their two daughter relive a part of their death which is kind of unsettling in rather good way

The music. I posted a message one week ago, stating that I wouldn't make a definite judgment on the songs from this new soundtrack until I witness their visual accompaniment. Well I can confirmed that those songs are there to help certain moments in the story. You'll probably be less listening to them on a loop compared to the first movie. But while watching the sequel, you'll be plenty satisfied to have them.
When I'm older is one good example of that: despite being a cute little song with a charming Broadway vibe to it, visually speaking it is also the way you got introduced to the four spirits for the very first time in the movie including the threatening face of the Nokk... so kind of a big deal!
Kristoff's song Lost in the Woods suddenly is shaping up like an 80's video clip! Which adds a new dimension to it ^^
I'm also really happy that the All Is Found lullaby sung by Queen Iduna got a musical accompaniment in the final rendering (the same as in the soundtrack) for I don't remember it was so obviously present in the clip they showed us at the D23 Movies Panel.
So yeah I'm tempt to say that these songs need the video to go with it, much more than the songs from the first movie. It's amazing how Queen Iduna looks exactly like Elsa for once specific shot
Regarding Show Yourself though, I was really expecting Queen Iduna to appear almost as a ghost even for a short time maybe a bit like Mufasa in TLK.. That's a shame.

The landscapes! The landscapes are FABULOUS, it really gives you the feeling you are making a journey through Norway. Though I've never been there myself yet, it looks really like the landscapes photos you can find on the Internet, with some very mineral layouts, other very arid. It's a feast for the eyes! They really wanted to make them more realistic for the sequel.

Also, even if it might seem odd to say that for a sequel, I was pleasantly surprised by the design of the characters. And I would start with what is for the elephant in the room: young Prince Agnarr. I've never shared that with you guys but the second Frozen II trailer came out in September I've been annoyed by his design. From the one shot we got from him : he looked like a perfect dummy... Which didn't suit the adult version of the character to my opinion. Well I'm released to say that shot was the worst of him in the movie. In every another shot, the young man is pretty handsome.

And speaking of gorgeous faces and physics, let's have a quite work about Kristoff, shall we?... ^^ I kind of love how they re-worked the details of his features, and his “cuteness” as a whole. He has something very juvenile and innocent on his face, associated with the body of a mountain man. You can tell they did their best to embellish him supposedly to satisfy the fans (although this is no excuse to get rid entirely of Hans so easily! (...expect for something that shouldn't even count..)) He has now a lot of freckles on his face! I suppooooose it is new?... Because I swear I've never noticed that in the first movie despite having watching it an hundred times..

One point everybody will notice: By the end, you will remark that the sequel follows the same paths and codes than the first movie (Anna saving the day and saving her threatened sister, Elsa needing to be rescued after (un)intentionally putting everyone in danger, Kristoff not doing too much when you think of it...), but to be fair, knowing the journey as it is, you won't see that coming. Yes it's an obvious nod to the first movie, but you probably won't predict it until you get it! So is it a nice subtlety or just fan-service? You be the judge if it's good or bad. I think everybody will have his/her own opinion on it.

I probably need another post to talk about my potential complains with the movie ^^
But I can start with one remark. Not sure if I want to complain about it, but when it comes to the end (and having been partially spoiled about it), I was really expecting an emotionally heavier ending with the two sisters being separated. I was expecting them not being able to see each other. I've been predicting that in order to protect the magical forest and the magical spirits, the forest had to stay secluded with Elsa taking care of the four elements on one side, and on the other side Anna assuring the well-being of Arendelle as the new leader of its people. I thought it would have been the message: to stay protected from mankind, the magical spirits had to remain hidden with the people who respect them and Elsa taking care of them as the fifth element... but no. This is definitively not what we got here. And instead, Elsa seems to be able to visit Anna whenever it pleases her. Which leaves less of a huge impact. I was even expecting that Elsa to build another ice castle beyond the Dark Sea and to become the mystical “Snow Queen” from the Hans Christian Anderson's fairy tale (only a nicer version of this figure ^^), so Frozen III could have been a re-visiting of the original source material.

Speaking of connections with the original fairy tale, I REALLY liked the fact that Young Iduna saving Prince Agnarr is surely a direct allusion to Kai saving Gerda!! Hats off!!

I'm not sure yet if there are plot hole with this movie... based on the logic of the story, I start thinking of it...

UmbrellaFish wrote:

disneyprincess11 wrote:Can't wait for tonight!

The damage has already been done for the costumes. It had spread immediately on my Twitter timeline and almost all of my friends have been spoiled. The costumes are now at Disney World. Smart for Disney to spoil the movie on the day of. But, they're dazzling! Wonder if it's permanent?

http://wdwnt.news/19112207

Elsa’s is such an improvement over her previous “Let it Go” get-up. I always thought the wig was especially awful.

I agree, I've always hated her wig at the parks. It looks like a leftover from Amadeus. I almost expect her to absolve my mediocrities whenever I go see her and Anna.