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Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:17 pm
by tomakpo
I don't know if this was published here but:
Interview about Frozen opening number with Cantus choir conductor:
http://galbmon.tumblr.com/post/61469669 ... ing-number
Source:
http://www.therotoscopers.com/2013/09/1 ... ys-frozen/
Apparently the choirs (The ethereal lyrics part) will be out (thanfully, I didn't like them
)
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:38 pm
by disneyprincess11
WAIT. If the choirs aren't doing the opening, who will? I guess the ice harvesters?
I'm confused because someone on Twitter said yesterday that she just recorded something with her choir?
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:41 pm
by tomakpo
The same music without the choir. By "choir" I mean the "aaaaaa" christmas-like words.
I think it was my mistake, I meant the HYMN parts, sorry
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:44 pm
by PrincessElsa
Actually, the choral parts were the most beautiful portions of the song.
Pity they were removed.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:50 pm
by tomakpo
I think they were kind of boring, I mean, there could have been an actually more dynamic choral part. This one, in my opinion, wasn't.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:52 pm
by PrincessElsa
tomakpo wrote:I think they were kind of boring, I mean, there could have been an actually more dynamic choral part. This one, in my opinion, wasn't.
I loved the ethereal lyrics. I enjoyed it much more than the rest of the piece.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:24 pm
by disneyprincess11
Darn it, the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas were the best part, minus the beginning
But, look:
C: Tonight we’re going to rerecord the song. The new song will be based on the original «Eatnemen Vuelie», but it’s remade so that it will fit Disney’s format. The base of the song is a Sami yoik made by Frode Fjellheim («Eatnemen Vuelie»), so the second Altos acts allmost like soloists through the song, and then after a while
we begin sing the hymn «Deilig er jorden» (Fairest Lord Jesus). And it’s the hymn that Disney cannot use, because it has the incorrect setting for the movie; It’s too sacral in this particular context. Frode Fjellheim has composed new music, but it will be based on the same themes.
http://galbmon.tumblr.com/post/61469669 ... ing-number
So, the hymn will still be in it. But, what if they use the hymn
at a funeral service for the King and Queen! How heartbnreaking and perfect!
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:30 pm
by Elladorine
enigmawing wrote:Er, sorry for derailing the thread. Let's get back to Elsa's eyebrows.
And speaking of Elsa's eyebrows, I sketched this with a ball-point pen a little over a month ago, I think.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:34 pm
by tomakpo
Actually, exactly after what's in bold it says
And it’s the hymn that Disney cannot use, because it has the incorrect setting for the movie; It’s too sacral in this particular context.
However I still remember Snow White praying . But It was the first movie. Times have changed
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:41 pm
by Prince Edward
The new poster is simply horrible. Can't imagine what they are thinking at Disney marketing. Are they gonna hide all their characters besides Olaf in the trailer as well? They better release better posters than this one before the movie premiere!
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:59 pm
by qindarka
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:42 pm
by jazzflower92
Whenever I look at those pictures it makes me feel so six or seven years old again. I also got a feeling thousands of Disney fans will get the surprise of their life when the guy filling the stereotypical Prince Charming archetype is revealed to be the true villain instead of the Duke.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:04 pm
by DisneyEra
He must really like Elsa
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:09 pm
by jazzflower92
DisneyEra wrote:He must really like Elsa
There is nothing wrong with a grown man liking a character from a Disney movie.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:34 pm
by SWillie!
jazzflower92 wrote:There is nothing wrong with a grown man liking a character from a Disney movie.
No one said there is?
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:37 pm
by jazzflower92
SWillie! wrote:jazzflower92 wrote:There is nothing wrong with a grown man liking a character from a Disney movie.
No one said there is?
Sorry for jumping there a bit.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:45 pm
by DisneyEra
jazzflower92 wrote:SWillie! wrote:
No one said there is?
Sorry for jumping there a bit.
I thought Disney said: Guys don't wan't to see princess movies
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:52 pm
by jazzflower92
I think its the boys who are still in elementary school or lower don't want to see a Disney Princess movie while those in their teens and in college are more likely to do it. But then again some boys will still watch it regardless of what their peers think.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:25 am
by Edthehyena
I have an insane theory.
Gay guys love princesses and Disney. I mean, we're talking about guys loving' or not that movie.
Am i dumb to think Elsa's theme ( a secret to conceal then reveal then accept) will particularly link her to us, gay guys ?
Rapunzel, Quasi, Beast, Ariel, Mulan, Tarzan and so were torn, full of yearning secrets. But no Disney Character seems as strong as Elsa. Her childhood is full of dramas anyway.
Re: Frozen: Part IV
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:55 am
by PrincessElsa
I've heard that before. It would be terribly reductive to limit Elsa to just one kind of alienation.
The whole power of the character is that she can embody a thousand different kinds of alienations and complexities, inhibitions and introversions. Why reduce it to just one narrow specificity?
This would just limit the character.
What makes the use of a metaphor like magical powers so effective is that almost anyone can relate to it, can relate to the idea of having secrets that they need to keep hidden, having things about themselves that they feel no one else could understand, let alone accept.
Reduce it to one specificity, and now many other groups who could identify with the character can't do so as personally, because suddenly, instead of representing all kinds of alienation, she represents just one group and one kind.
It's why presenting a character as "The Beast" is far more universal than if Disney were to just create, say, a straight-up interracial romance in the Deep South in the 19th century. As someone in that case, the character becomes a one-issue representative. But as "the Beast," he is universal and symbolic and can speak to everyone who feels themselves ugly and incompatible and unworthy.
Lots of studios can make prosaically realistic one-issue movies with one-issue characters. But by using magic as symbolism and metaphor, Elsa can embody a multiplicity of of alienations. And that makes her a better character.
