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Found this on tumblr... It's hilarious

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Shippers gonna ship.

(Why does Elsa seem to have only one pose/ expression? She may control ice but she's not a robot. )

enigmawing wrote:I'm rather sick of all the Shrek bashing around here. Anytime a Disney character so much as raises an eyebrow people start screaming it's some kind of Dreamworks rip-off.

It's been twelve years now and you guys are still angry about the film's impact? If anyone is to be blamed for Disney supposedly copying Dreamworks and their so-called "formula" (which I don't actually agree with it), it's Disney's fault for not leading the way, not Shrek's.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rabwbzi6rLU[/youtube]

I bet if Atlantis was in CGI, it would of been nominated.

I like that Elsa pose/face way more than the first one we saw. And thank God cross-eyed Anna hasn't been used.

Having the four main human characters is more than I expected and there will be more posters and other publicity images of course. As long as the movies themselves don't become too "Dreamworks" I'm fine (the complaints about the marketing are overblown anyway).

http://31.media.tumblr.com/4b3d3216df33 ... 3_1280.jpg

Noticed an image from one of the tie-in books which I've never seen before on tumblr. Came from here: http://somethinganimated.tumblr.com/pos ... ound-these

Image contains MILD SPOILERS from the first act which I think we are all familiar with by now.



Also, images here have been seen before from the previous book leak but the text constitutes SPOILERS:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/901c6691cfb3 ... 4_1280.jpg

Warm Regards wrote:(Why does Elsa seem to have only one pose/ expression? She may control ice but she's not a robot.

Odd that they chose just one expression to go with. Already the concept art and book covers have shown her with a host of different moods and expressions:

http://kioewen.tumblr.com/post/61464947 ... es-of-elsa

Then again, this is only the, what, third official U.S. Disney publication showing Elsa (the others being the D23 magazine cover and the character poster, which did show a different expression)? Hopefully they'll feature a variety of expressions in future promos.

enigmawing wrote:I'm rather sick of all the Shrek bashing around here. Anytime a Disney character so much as raises an eyebrow people start screaming it's some kind of Dreamworks rip-off.

It's been twelve years now and you guys are still angry about the film's impact? If anyone is to be blamed for Disney supposedly copying Dreamworks and their so-called "formula" (which I don't actually agree with it), it's Disney's fault for not leading the way, not Shrek's.

I despise Shrek because I feel like most of the movie is Disney bashing and making a mockery of Disney and their animation. Also how it's basically destroyed animation and made absolutely stupid movies like The Smurfs, Chipmunks, The Bee Movie and more so much money in the Box Office while decent movies like P &T F hardly make a impact.

Because they follow the Pop Culture, comedy button that made Shrek originally so successful. Not only this but now Adults and Parents think it's okay for Adults to see these movies because of Shrek and take their children to see them and thus getting more bums into the seats.

If Beauty and the Beast came out today the same time as Smurfs 2 guess what movie would be getting more bums on seats ?
Yes Smurfs 2.

How utterly depressing is that.

I don't desire going around bashing Shrek for the sake of it, but when the movie makes me mad, it makes me mad.

Yeah, Disney should be leading the way and being more brave and bold for making American Trailers that show the actual movie and Posters that symbolize the actual movie, but since Princess/ Frog's slip and Tangled's big success they're convinced that this is the way for now.

Somebody in 2000 removed Disney's balls that's for sure, because after Fantasia 2000 there has been lesser and lesser risks being taken and just trying to tackle Dreamworks by pretending to be Dreamworks 2.0.

DisneyEra wrote:

enigmawing wrote:I'm rather sick of all the Shrek bashing around here. Anytime a Disney character so much as raises an eyebrow people start screaming it's some kind of Dreamworks rip-off.

It's been twelve years now and you guys are still angry about the film's impact? If anyone is to be blamed for Disney supposedly copying Dreamworks and their so-called "formula" (which I don't actually agree with it), it's Disney's fault for not leading the way, not Shrek's.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rabwbzi6rLU[/youtube]

I bet if Atlantis was in CGI, it would of been nominated.

Your argument doesn't work when the following year, four hand-drawn animated films (two from Disney Animation) were nominated, with Spirited Away winning the Oscar.

I love hand-drawn animation, but I too would have nominated Jimmy Neutron over Atlantis.

estefan wrote:

DisneyEra wrote: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rabwbzi6rLU[/youtube]

I bet if Atlantis was in CGI, it would of been nominated.

Your argument doesn't work when the following year, four hand-drawn animated films (two from Disney Animation) were nominated, with Spirited Away winning the Oscar.

I love hand-drawn animation, but I too would have nominated Jimmy Neutron over Atlantis.

Jimmy Neutron was just a terrible pilot for a terrible show though.

Hypothetically speaking, had Shrek not been successful or if it hadn't even been made at all, it's still likely animated films would have gone in the same direction they're in now. For example, I'm not exactly sure what Shrek has to do with the Smurfs or Chipmunk movies, as they're live-action/CG hybrid reboots cashing in on nostalgic old-school cartoon characters, not irreverent fairy-tale parodies/satires. If you really want to take note of where that trend started, look to Scooby Doo, which was originally more targeted towards adults (in the vein of The Brady Bunch Movie) and was put into planning long before anyone had ever even heard of Dreamworks' version of Shrek.

Heck, many of Dreamworks' more distinctive films (Kung Fu Panda, Megamind, How to Train Your Dragon) have not followed any Shrek "formula" that I can tell despite a lot of Disney fans somehow insisting so. I mean, I guess you can rant about them choosing well-known actors to do the voices, but that's already been done for decades. You could also point a finger at pop-culture references that the studio is so famous for but they're pretty much non-existent in many of their films. As for being CG, animation gravitating toward computers was inevitable regardless given that Pixar continued to push boundaries with both technology as well as their stories. The lackluster performances of Atlantis and Treasure Planet had absolutely nothing to do with a certain green ogre or the fact that they weren't CG (otherwise Lilo & Stitch would have failed as well). As I've stated before, Disney animation used to be able to get the grown-up and even teen audiences into the seats (Aladdin was a popular date movie, for example) but they'd pretty much lost that audience by the time the likes of Shrek showed up.

Shrek or not, the world has changed. It's up to Disney to figure out their way, and it seems rather silly to blame Dreamworks for any of their potential shortcomings. I'm willing to bet had Aladdin been released in modern times people would be crying DREAMWORKS RIP-OFF all over the place. I mean, look at all those pop-culture references, the irreverent humor, and worst of all, those 'tude eyebrows. My god, when did Disney stop being Disney? It's all Shrek's fault . . .

Er, sorry for derailing the thread. Let's get back to Elsa's eyebrows.

I have to admit the poster made me laugh, but for its awfulness & desperation, not cuz its actually funny.

as for Shrek & DW, yeah I too am in the camp that feels its success contributed to the current sad state of animation in the US. Sorry.

I will say I loved HTTYD though...I hope they make more films like that.

I have to break my silence to wholeheartedly agree with enigmawing. The Shrek bashing here is bordering on childish.

enigmawing wrote:If anyone is to be blamed for Disney supposedly copying Dreamworks and their so-called "formula" (which I don't actually agree with it), it's Disney's fault for not leading the way, not Shrek's.

I fully agree. Well, said. It's silly blaming DreamWorks for something Disney is doing.

Make it three.

+ 1 for the quit blaming Shrek team. Ya'll sound almost jealous or something.

However I have to say I think the new poster is actually pretty cute, especially Anna. You can see Kristen Bell's face in the design. Plus we're almost certain to get at least a few more, so if this one's not doing it for you maybe the next one will.

I actually just got home from the Disney store on a Frozen merch run. These mugs are so cute...

thelittleursula wrote:I despise Shrek because I feel like most of the movie is Disney bashing and making a mockery of Disney and their animation.

+1

Wonderful post, enigmawing -- as usual. People conveniently seem to forget Disney's Aladdin and Hercules were Shrek prototypes.

I wonder after the movie appears that Anna and Elsa would get an appearance on Sofia The First. I wonder if it will be set in a snow resort for it to happen. Although that makes me think that technically Elsa would be the only Queen in the franchise for now. I wonder how well Elsa and Anna will get along with Merida because of the fact that the Scots in the past have fought Vikings who originally came from Scandinavia including Norway. And their country is based on Norway.

I like how Disney is lately basing their character desings in their voices actors. I mean, Rapunzel with short hair kinda looks like Mandy Moore, specially some of her expressions. Same with Anna looking like Kristen Bell as we see in the poster and I think Elsa looks a little like Idina Menzel. Vanellope kind of looks like Sarah Silverman imo

estefan wrote:

DisneyEra wrote: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rabwbzi6rLU[/youtube]

I bet if Atlantis was in CGI, it would of been nominated.

Your argument doesn't work when the following year, four hand-drawn animated films (two from Disney Animation) were nominated, with Spirited Away winning the Oscar.

I love hand-drawn animation, but I too would have nominated Jimmy Neutron over Atlantis.

But in 2002, Ice Age was the only major CGI film released, Same in 2003 with Finding Nemo. By 2004, Shrek 2, The Incredibles & A Shark's Tale mimicked 2001. And from that year on, multiple CGI films were out on a yearly basis. In 2005 you had Madagascar, Chicken Little & Robots, but not one of them recieved an oscar nod for best animated film that year.

Funny thing is Dreamworks released 3 2D films from 2000-2003: The Road to El Dorado, Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron & Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas. Spirit made some money but the other 2 are considered huge flops. So after Sinbad in 2003, Dreamwork just shut-down their whole 2D unit? I've actually never read up on this. It's been 10 years since Sinbad came out to.