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Musical Master wrote:Who's playing Young Maleficent in that picture with Young Stefan?

Isobelle Molloy apparently

bradk wrote:

Musical Master wrote:Who's playing Young Maleficent in that picture with Young Stefan?

Isobelle Molloy apparently

Cool, thanks. On the official Disney website, there is some links to movie ticket websites and they all say that the movie will last for 135 minutes; that makes it official and that makes me really happy!

Ok...
I'm not one to complain about these things, but I was looking at the images on Stitch Kingdom and this is the first thing that came on my mind

So Merryweather is now thin and tall?
Maleficent's voluminous dress is now replaced with a very tight dress?

Unbelievable..

taei wrote:Ok...
I'm not one to complain about these things, but I was looking at the images on Stitch Kingdom and this is the first thing that came on my mind

So Merryweather is now thin and tall?
Maleficent's voluminous dress is now replaced with a very tight dress?

Unbelievable..

I have read about people pointlessly nitpicking many movies but this is starting to get ridiculous taei...

Musical Master wrote: I have seen people pointlessly nitpick many movies but this is starting to get ridiculous taei...

Oh no!, i'm so sorry T__T
I promise you, I'll go see the movie and I'm not trying to destroy it.
It was just a little observation
I don't know, Sleeping Beauty is just up there with the best movies IMO. and I'm just saddended buy all the changes!
But If it ever comes to the point where it's bothering people I'll stop being too negative (which i can see clearly is now).
I care about your opinions and there's nothing wrong with liking the movie!

taei wrote:

Musical Master wrote: I have seen people pointlessly nitpick many movies but this is starting to get ridiculous taei...

OMG, i'm so sorry T__T
I promise you, I'll go see the movie and I'm not trying to destroy it.
It was just a little observation
I don't know, Sleeping Beauty is just up there with the best movies IMO. and I'm just saddended buy all the changes!
But If it ever comes to the point where it's bothering people I'll stop being too negative (which i can see clearly is now).
I care about your opinions and there's nothing wrong with liking the movie!

That's okay taei, it happens to fans of any movie with a new adaptation that comes out. I'm fascinated with the changes of this new version of Sleeping Beauty (which is a movie I find overrated but with beautiful art direction and animation), that both Paul Dini and Linda Woolverton came up with together, that this movie might have the chance to be the best live-action fairy tale film to date (hopefully beating Oz: The Great and Powerful to my eyes and ears).

taei wrote:So Merryweather is now thin and tall?
Maleficent's voluminous dress is now replaced with a very tight dress?

Unbelievable..

on multiple levels, it would not be fair to equate knotgrass, thistlewit and flittle with flora, fauna and merryweather.

if you're looking to compare this film to Sleeping Beauty, you will be sorely disappointed in ways you couldn't imagine. It borrows from Sleeping Beauty but it's not Sleeping Beauty.

Musical Master wrote:
That's okay taei, it happens to fans of any movie with a new adaptation that comes out. I'm fascinated with the changes of this new version of Sleeping Beauty (which is a movie I find overrated but with beautiful art direction and animation), that both Paul Dini and Linda Woolverton came up with together, that this movie might have the chance to be the best live-action fairy tale film to date (hopefully beating Oz: The Great and Powerful to my eyes and ears).

Yeah, there's no shame in liking the changes!
I loved the changes in Amazing Spider-Man 2 (even though the movie was ok at best..).

I just have high expectations for certain movies, like Oz and Maleficent.
Oz was just terrible IMO, but then again, I'm not really a fan of the original classic.

I'm just gonna wait to see how this turns out. Trust me, I'm keeping an open mind even though what I say shows the opposite.

bradk wrote:

taei wrote:So Merryweather is now thin and tall?
Maleficent's voluminous dress is now replaced with a very tight dress?

Unbelievable..

on multiple levels, it would not be fair to equate knotgrass, thistlewit and flittle with flora, fauna and merryweather.

if you're looking to compare this film to Sleeping Beauty, you will be sorely disappointed in ways you couldn't imagine. It borrows from Sleeping Beauty but it's not Sleeping Beauty.

Exactly, I'm going to see this as another adaptation of the fairy tale with elements from the original 1959 film but creating a new story from it. Which is a big reason why I didn't hate the leaked script by Woolverton and not joining the "She has destroyed the classic film and tainted it" ship. I can't wait for the movie and it's hard to believe it's coming.

taei wrote:Oh no!, i'm so sorry T__T
I promise you, I'll go see the movie and I'm not trying to destroy it.
It was just a little observation
I don't know, Sleeping Beauty is just up there with the best movies IMO. and I'm just saddended buy all the changes!
But If it ever comes to the point where it's bothering people I'll stop being too negative (which i can see clearly is now).
I care about your opinions and there's nothing wrong with liking the movie!

No, there was nothing wrong with you expressing your opinion, even if it was negative.

Musical Master wrote:Exactly, I'm going to see this as another adaptation of the fairy tale with elements from the original 1959 film but creating a new story from it.

If it was another adaptation, it would be another adaptation...and it would at least be like the original fairy tale, no fairy that cursed the princess then loves her and wakes her up instead of the prince.

Disney Duster wrote:

Musical Master wrote:Exactly, I'm going to see this as another adaptation of the fairy tale with elements from the original 1959 film but creating a new story from it.

If it was another adaptation, it would be another adaptation...and it would at least be like the original fairy tale, no fairy that cursed the princess then loves her and wakes her up instead of the prince.

Frozen. Is that one like the original fairy tale? No, but some people call it an adaptation of The Snow Queen. On a good note, I have bought the novelization (via Itunes) and I think that while there is some similarities, it is SO MUCH BETTER than the leaked script in a good amount of ways (though some things in here will not be like the final version of the film). I was shocked that the Queen died before Aurora came home, that was kind of sad..

The adaptations need to keep certain things. I feel Frozen kept what it needed to be called The Snow Queen, as in a literal snow queen and who gets rescued by her friend (well, who's also her sister), oh, but it need to keep the names Gerda and Kai for their respective characters, but I feel Maleficent does not have what it takes to be called an adaptation of Sleeping Beauty.

Disney Duster wrote:The adaptations need to keep certain things. I feel Frozen kept what it needed to be called The Snow Queen, as in a literal snow queen and who gets rescued by her friend (well, who's also her sister) but I feel Maleficent does not have what it takes to be called an adaptation of Sleeping Beauty.

Fair enough, but to me Maleficent still uses elements of the 1959 film in certain ways that I can call it a loose adaptation.

That's fair enough, too. And I forgot to say, Frozen did miss one thing it needed to keep, the names Gerda and Kai for their respective characters.

Disney Duster wrote:That's fair enough, too. And I forgot to say, Frozen did miss one thing it needed to keep, the names Gerda and Kai for their respective characters.

BTW, when seeing the new pictures did you like the fact that a good amount of the sets for this film are half pratical/half CG? I sure did, it reminds me of Lord of the Rings and how that series made their sets.

EDIT: A new featurette. http://news.moviefone.com/2014/05/06/ma ... ina-jolie/

It would be fabulous to one day have an epic film like this with fully constructed sets … that would be amazing !

Ooooo this is a good one:

http://www.impawards.com/2014/maleficent_ver14.html

Disney Duster wrote: Maleficent does not have what it takes to be called an adaptation of Sleeping Beauty.

Why? I mean, yeah, the story was changed in some places, but the characters (except the good fairies) seem to be faithful to the original.

I don't see how one can refuse this as an adaptation. This is Disney we are talking about after all, a company known for adapting darker material and making it lighter. The difference this time is that they are doing it with their own material. There are no bigger changes made to this than say to The Littler Mermaid (much darker ending made a lot later that completely changes the message the original intended), The Hunchback of Notre Dame (death of a female character changed to a happy ending for all), and really Frozen.

I just can't fathom how Frozen keeping the idea of "Snow Queen gets help from friend" makes it an adaptation, while this film, which has kept the basic idea of "Evil fairy curses baby and dark adventure ensues" does not. The intention of the Elsa character changed DRASTICALLY, while Maleficent at least goes through her truly wicked stages. To say that the aforementioned films can be seen as adaptations while this one cannot (I mean, the christening scene is closer to the original than ANYTHING any of these kinds of movies have offered us) is truly being unfair and biased.

Yes, I think it is perfectly acceptable to refer to Maleficent as an adaption of Sleeping Beauty …. it's the story we known from an alternate view point, with changes made accordingly, just as changes were made when Disney adapted Beauty the first time.

Now, not everyone may agree with the liberties taken, but that's up to the filmmakers to make it work, and make us, as the audience, believe in it.

But yes, this can certainly be called an adaption of Sleeping Beauty. What I don't particularly like is their dismissal of their own version of the story ('You know the tale, now you need to know the the truth' etc), that isn't needed at all; they can both exist in harmony together.