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I would like to see prince Naveen once without that 'toothpase' grin. He looks rather silly like that!

Hmmm... the poster says "First Disney princess movie in 11 years... What princess movie did they release in 1998??

Mulan came out in 1998, and Mulan is a (disputed) Disney Princess.

271286 wrote:Hmmm... the poster says "First Disney princess movie in 11 years... What princess movie did they release in 1998??

Mulan. Although she is not a princess she belongs to the "Disney Princess" franchise.

EDIT: UmbrellaFish beat me to it (by one minute )

Hs anyone read this? What do you think?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... rince.html

sotiris2006 wrote:Hs anyone read this? What do you think?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... rince.html

Comment #1: HAHA .....my computer must be broken because that prince certainly doesn't look white to me.

Comment #2: Im really sad to read that people are supposedly upset by the prince. What is the big deal that he isnt as dark as she is and what does it say when ppl would be so offended by this? Its feedback like this that will make Disney regret doing this project and make other studios think twice about attemting anything similar to this. Its rediculious that when any minority is the subject of anything Hollywood.....everything becomes so political.

Comment #3: (or a question actually ) Why do you think that Mulan should be considered a Disney Princess?? She never was one and shouldnt be marketed as one. Thats just crazy.

First of all, I agree with a-net-fan, I don't think Prince Naveen is "white".

Second of all, I think Disney is damned if they do and damned if they don't. I think critics are going to have SOMETHING negative to say about this film no matter what happens. Personally, I think if Tiana did fall in love with a "white" prince, that would also send a good message. As someone who is in a long-time interracial relationship - I think it would teach children that blacks don't have to marry blacks and whites don't have to marry whites. Marriage is about love - no matter what skin color.

a-net-fan wrote:
Comment #2: Im really sad to read that people are supposedly upset by the prince. What is the big deal that he isnt as dark as she is and what does it say when ppl would be so offended by this? Its feedback like this that will make Disney regret doing this project and make other studios think twice about attemting anything similar to this. Its rediculious that when any minority is the subject of anything Hollywood.....everything becomes so political.

You are absolutely right!
What's the big deal if he isn't as dark as she is?
Those people are really racist!!!!

And Disney and other studio's will think twice about attempting something like this again indeed! But those people should realize they were the reason for that.

a-net-fan wrote:
Comment #3: (or a question actually ) Why do you think that Mulan should be considered a Disney Princess?? She never was one and shouldnt be marketed as one. Thats just crazy.

The only reason I can think of: for diversity's sake. at Disney they must have been thinking: "We haven't got enough non-white princesses, so what the hell let's make Mulan a princess too, so there will be less complains about lack of ethnic variety.
Actually I don't see much of Mulan whenever I encounter 'princess' toys or magazines so it seems she has been silently dropped (along with Pocahontas so it seems)

I'd like to know an honest answer. Why are things that are related to black people in any way always are deemed racist? I'm 1/2 black myself, and I honestly don't see anything racist at all with this film.

Disney films are beautiful, and tell the tales of remarkable storys that encompass the hero/heroine in a great light. To even deem something as racist with something so harmless is just ashame. I hope that the film wasn't changed too much to cater to the cries of foul play. Those people should just not see the film, or at least wait until the film is out before making judgement.

I remember when Capcom the developers of Resident Evil tried to place their game in Africa, and there were calls of racism...because the enemies were black for once.

You know what the funny thing about all of this is? The people who are the loudest to claim that the film is racist aren't even BLACK.

Comment #3: (or a question actually ) Why do you think that Mulan should be considered a Disney Princess?? She never was one and shouldnt be marketed as one. Thats just crazy.

That's quite simple. Marketing. There is a LOT of Disney Princess merchandise to sell a-net-fan. Asian girls might feel a bit more comfotable with indentifiying with one of the Disney Asian characters as well. Is she technically a princess? No, she's not a traditional princess however in order to sell more merchandise she can be considered one

Alright here I go!

First, I think Prince Naveen's costume should only be lily-pad-like after he's been a frog, because the only reason he would dress like that is if he lives around or has been to the bayous where those lily-pads and flowers are. And he's from Maldonia, which I already disagree with having that made-up name but there was already Agrabah (which is also not like the traditional Disney fairy tales set in real places and done seriously but ah, well), but at least Agrabah was set in the real Middle East so maybe Maldonia will be at least in a real area...?

Mama Odie just doesn't look very Disney or much like a fairy godmother. The pencil in her costume is funny, but not how a Disney character would look all the time. I know her costume is based on real voodoo costumes they have seen, but I'm sure they have found some that would look more Disney and fairy tale-like, or that they could make more Disney and fairy tale-like. Also her face is a little too scarily skeletal. But she looks like just a concept art, so I will see what happens...

Finally, I think Prince Naveen should be black, this is the perfect opportunity for a black Prince. They should save the opportunity for a Latino or other ethnicity for a prince for another feature.

Disney Duster wrote:but at least Agrabah was set in the real Middle East so maybe Maldonia will be at least in a real area...?.

I think Maldonia is in Eastern Europe (considering that the name alludes to the countries Moldova and Macedonia which are located in Eastern Europe).

Disney Duster wrote:I think Prince Naveen should be black, this is the perfect opportunity for a black Prince. They should save the opportunity for a Latino or other ethnicity for a prince for another feature.

I think so too. Although it's a bit late now for any changes to be made by Disney.

Question: Are we sure that Naveen is of Latin origin? He has a French accent and his fictional country is located in Eastern Europe which doesn't make a lot of sense, historically, for him to be a Latino or Hispanic. Perhaps he's white and just has a tan?

Although the fact that he'll be voiced by a Brazilian actor does reinforces that notion of him being Latino.

I'm confused

Who's to say he's just not a light skinned black man?

He's white?

okay that is news to me. He does not look white to me at all. His skin is darker than all the previous Disney princes. He looks darker than Shang, Aladdin and Tarzan who, of all people lives in the friggin' jungle.

In my opinion, it's extremely racist to complain about the skin color of her love interest. Just because she's African American, he should be too??? Says who???? He can be purple for all I care, for the love of all that is good and holy in this world, just WHAT is the big flippin' deal here???

And the fact that they used those hideous merchandise images that were photoshopped out of a photograph is a sign to me that these people have just been waiting for months now to jump the gun the minute an image of this movie appears that supports their crackpot racist theories.

These people need to lay off the mariuhana for a few months and who knows, things might clear up in their minds.

CampbellzSoup wrote:Who's to say he's just not a light skinned black man?

Yes, from parents of different color like Barack Obama?

Strange, when a child is born from a black and white parent he/she is always labelled 'black'. What's wrong with calling him/her mulatto?

sotiris2006 wrote:I think so too. Although it's a bit late now for any changes to be made by Disney.

I think they could make him darker since any colors in the film can be digitally changed in a snap.

Like a year ago they had that statistic that a lot of young black people preferred lighter skin...? I originally theorized this could be because maybe we like things in the middle, because white people prefer tan skin, too! But anyway, I'd like the prince to look more black. Yea, yea, the color doesn't matter, but apparently it does matter to some people and I'd like him that way too.

His big sqaure jaw also doesn't look too black to me but no real men seem to have that anyway, it's the perfect manly prince thing. I really don't want to sound racist so if anyone could enlighten me is that square chin fairly possible? I bet it's at least a little possible.

Anyway, I'm sure some black people immigrated to Maldonia and could have married into royalty, or black people from another royal family married into Maldonia's royal family, or maybe black people were part of their royalty all long, maybe they moved to the country along with "white" people when the country first came to be. In Disney kindgoms, though they are set in or around real places, lots of unusual, uncommon things happen that are a little more open, friendly, and happy.

Yes I'm thinking very deeply about Disney fairy tales!

BelleGirl wrote:

CampbellzSoup wrote:Who's to say he's just not a light skinned black man?

Yes, from parents of different color like Barack Obama?

Strange, when a child is born from a black and white parent he/she is always labelled 'black'. What's wrong with calling him/her mulatto?

Not true Im half black, and I'm always labeled white

sotiris2006 wrote:I think Maldonia is in Eastern Europe (considering that the name alludes to the countries Moldova and Macedonia which are located in Eastern Europe)

I don't think so. As someone who's from that region, I can tell you everybody here is white as white can be . His country could be "located" somewhere in the Mediterranean, or off the Atlantic coast of Africa.

Disney Duster wrote:First, I think Prince Naveen's costume should only be lily-pad-like after he's been a frog, because the only reason he would dress like that is if he lives around or has been to the bayous where those lily-pads and flowers are.

Those green outfits are probably their wedding/end-of-the-movie outfits.

mooky_7_sa wrote: Those green outfits are probably their wedding/end-of-the-movie outfits.

Great! Do they get married in a pool of frogspawn?