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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:55 pm
by Mooky
Just got back from the movie. First, the complaints:
- The beginning - toys being more than ready to give up on Andy and the whole "if he doesn't want us, screw him, we're leaving" attitude. In a way, it's understandable, but still it felt somewhat OOC. Maybe it was the tone of the scene which I found to be too humorous for something that was presented as a gloom-and-doom situation in the previous film. Still, I guess after years of being neglected, that was their defense mechanism against rejection.
- Toys dealing with loss - sort of related to what I wrote above: I didn't feel a proper shout out was given to toys that were no longer around, especially Bo Peep. It was just like, "they’re gone, no big deal". And whatever happened to "No toy gets left behind" motto? In previous films toys went through great lengths to save others that were about to be thrown in trash or sold. It just struck me as odd they kind of just gave up on others (and made me feel really bad for Bo, being all alone somewhere, or worse yet, broken). On the other hand, that made the scene Margos described above much more powerful and emotionally gripping, and showed just how much the toys lost and sacrificed since the end of TS2. So, even though I'm still torn on the decision to cut these characters from the movie, I guess it turned out for the best.

With that out of the way, the highlights:
- Ken and Barbie – scene stealers
- Bonnie was great, both in animation and character wise. Those little nuances, like lowering her eyes when she's shy, or walking on her knees, and stuff like that. And her playtime and hiding from "the witch" - too cute!
- The incinerator scene – I had spoiled myself before I saw the movie so I knew what was coming, and I still couldn't hold back tears, watching it with my eyes wide open, shaking uncontrollably and crying in silence. The last time I had a similar reaction to a movie was about ten years ago, with "Dancer in the Dark". Some will say it was cheap and cheesy, but for me it was a logical result of a 15 year long build up and all emotions I had for these characters just came flooding back. Toys coming to terms with (what seems like) an imminent end and facing death together, that’s pure movie emotion.
- Woody deciding to stay with the other toys - that was a great character development. Here you have a toy who spent pretty much his entire existence clinging to his owner and even though he's obviously wanted, he makes the hardest decision of his life and goes against everything he ever believed was a right thing to do. That's a great message right there: learning to let go even though it hurts.
- Andy introducing his toys to Bonnie and giving them one last play (just like they always wanted) before "passing on the torch" to Bonnie, and the final farewell – it's a big price to pay and, even though it's comforting to know both the toys and Andy are at peace, it's still a bittersweet goodbye. It's just a perfect ending, and I hope its emotional punch won't be destroyed with a possible "Toy Story 4" (then again, I thought Pixar would never be able to top TS2 and here we are).

All nitpicking aside, I can say with certainty that TS2 has just been dethroned from being my favorite Pixar film. I don’t believe I could praise it enough. It’s simply a brilliant film.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:25 pm
by pap64
magicalwands wrote:
pap64 wrote:But in a more serious note, wouldn't it be nice if we learned that Woody is actually a present from his father and thus why Andy is so attached to him? The first movie suggests that Andy has had Woody since Kindergarten, perhaps even earlier! Maybe at that point in his life something happened to his father (divorce, death, military service etc.), and Woody suddenly became important to Andy, because its the last memory he has of his father behind.

It would certainly give a lot of heart as to why Andy wanted to take Woody to college instead of Buzz.
It would certainly emphasize the emotional part even more. The ending would have been even more sad. It seems the writers would have taken a chance at this so I think they just couldn't fit it in. How do we fit Andy talking about his past? He could have talked about it to his mom, but then she would know Andy put his toys in the trash bag and would not have thrown it out. Then in the end with Bonnie, I wouldn't be comfortable talking about a dead relative to her. Right? I have no idea why we are all itching to really wanting to see Ash and Andy's dads! :lol:
Writers can talk about these issues and still be subtle about it. Andy wouldn't have to talk about his father, just the toy.

And the reason we are so curious is because we know they didn't make themselves :p . But yeah, it does make for a neat mystery for us to ponder.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:00 pm
by katemonster
Disney did it again! I loved the movie from beginning to end!! Going to see it again this weekend! :)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:30 pm
by disneyboy20022
Uhh....Oh Jack Smack, Pop and Froot Loops....uhh if anyone was collecting these cereal codes for toy story and eating the cereal bought..uhh..there's been a massive recall for once not about the toys....but more seriously...the cereal itself is the reason it's being recalled

http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news- ... s-recalled

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:56 pm
by disneyboy20022
pap64 wrote:
Super Aurora wrote:
LOL. Though in first few episodes of pokemon, Ash's mother mention to Ash about his father. That's where the whole "who/where is Ash's dad?" debate started from.
Oh dude, that I know. I wasted half my life taping Pokemon episodes up until my third year in college XD .

But in a more serious note, wouldn't it be nice if we learned that Woody is actually a present from his father and thus why Andy is so attached to him? The first movie suggests that Andy has had Woody since Kindergarten, perhaps even earlier! Maybe at that point in his life something happened to his father (divorce, death, military service etc.), and Woody suddenly became important to Andy, because its the last memory he has of his father behind.

It would certainly give a lot of heart as to why Andy wanted to take Woody to college instead of Buzz.

In Pokemon THe Broadway Musical it was revealed that Giovani, leader of Team Rocket was Ash's Father....though im not sure what truth that has to the series.. of Pokemon of Ash's Father

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:56 pm
by Want2beBelle
I am so anxious for it to come out on blu-ray already lol, i hope they do a triple pack that would be awesome!!

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:46 pm
by toonaspie
I really hope there are no more Toy Story films.

As much as we would all miss these characters, I felt the series came to a very satisfying conclusion. Plus I would much prefer that it's left up to viewer interpretation as to what happens after the end.

Any new TS films would completely diminish the significance behind TS3's ending.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:10 pm
by Mickeyfan1990
It's been a week since the film debuted in theaters and already you're talking about the film's DVD/Blu release!? LOL! :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:36 pm
by rexcrk
I really can't wait to own it on Blu-ray so that I can watch it whenever I want.

I'm hoping they do like what they did for the first two: a combo pack of DVD and Blu-ray in a regular SLIM Blu-ray case. Ideally I'd like a digital copy, too, because I was disappointed that the first two didn't come with any digital copies, but I still hate that Disney releases combo packs in a thick Blu-ray case.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:13 pm
by toonaspie
I wouldnt mind just having a combo pack similar to the first two.

Any major changes to the packaging or offerings would have made buying the first two pointless. Yes I like consistency with my DVD collection.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:14 pm
by Kyle
I don't want a TS4 either, but I am glad we'll be getting Toy Story Toons, and a theatrical short in front of Cars 2. I just wonder if any of it will be canon or not. and when it might take place. with any luck maybe we'll see more of the unused toys like Bo.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:30 pm
by Kyle
pap64 wrote:But in a more serious note, wouldn't it be nice if we learned that Woody is actually a present from his father and thus why Andy is so attached to him? The first movie suggests that Andy has had Woody since Kindergarten, perhaps even earlier! Maybe at that point in his life something happened to his father (divorce, death, military service etc.), and Woody suddenly became important to Andy, because its the last memory he has of his father behind.

It would certainly give a lot of heart as to why Andy wanted to take Woody to college instead of Buzz.
John and Lee have both hinted that this is indeed the case. (that he was given to Andy by his Father, and that he is either divorced or dead)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:58 pm
by Super Aurora
disneyboy20022 wrote:
pap64 wrote: Oh dude, that I know. I wasted half my life taping Pokemon episodes up until my third year in college XD .

But in a more serious note, wouldn't it be nice if we learned that Woody is actually a present from his father and thus why Andy is so attached to him? The first movie suggests that Andy has had Woody since Kindergarten, perhaps even earlier! Maybe at that point in his life something happened to his father (divorce, death, military service etc.), and Woody suddenly became important to Andy, because its the last memory he has of his father behind.

It would certainly give a lot of heart as to why Andy wanted to take Woody to college instead of Buzz.

In Pokemon THe Broadway Musical it was revealed that Giovani, leader of Team Rocket was Ash's Father....though im not sure what truth that has to the series.. of Pokemon of Ash's Father
Zip. none. In the canon game series. Silver, the rival to gold in Gold,silver, crystal, is the son of Giovanni. Play Heart Gold/Soul Silver to find out about it.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:11 am
by DarthPrime
I also hope it comes in a combo pack similar to the recent 1 and 2 releases.

Can't wait to own the Blu-ray. Should look/sound fantastic.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:25 am
by SWillie!
toonaspie wrote:Yes I like consistency with my DVD collection.
Then you, my friend, are a fan of the wrong movie studio.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:10 am
by ToyStory959910
I wouldn't care if they made a Toy Story 4. It's Pixar and Toy Story people...it would be great! Plus it's just a movie, you can always ignore it if you want. I'm happy for the short. I say instead of a '4' they should make a christmas special for TV or something. It would get huge ratings. [Andy's family can go to Bonnie's!]

Anyway... http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/ ... night-day/

18 million on Friday. Hope it bumps up to 20 million+ on Saturday. And I know Sandler had some good movies...but Grown Ups is horrible. [I haven't seen it and wont, but that's what the word is.]
14 million? It better not leap frog TS3 or I will lose all hope for people. Hopefully that fades more.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:14 pm
by Luke
ToyStory959910 wrote:I wouldn't care if they made a Toy Story 4. It's Pixar and Toy Story people...it would be great! Plus it's just a movie, you can always ignore it if you want. I'm happy for the short. I say instead of a '4' they should make a christmas special for TV or something. It would get huge ratings. [Andy's family can go to Bonnie's!]
I like the Christmas special idea and even thought that Andy might take such a trip on his first Christmas break from college.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:03 pm
by Kyle
I'm all for a Christmas special, and they would have their new Canada studio take care of it.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:57 pm
by SillySymphony
Saw it yesterday and almost missed seeing it in 3D. We were late getting to the theater and the movie was already 11 minutes in. I was so freaked out that I'd miss Day & Night, but we got inside just in time.

Day & Night
I still love the idea and concept of the short, but after seeing it there was a little of a letdown. I can't explain exactly what I didn't like about it, maybe it was the "go-stop" flow of the short, but after it was over I found myself thinking "what just happened?" Not as enjoyable as I first thought.

Toy Story 3
PRAISE: Question - Why is Pixar amazing? Answer - They make awesome, lovable characters that are paired with a simple storyline and excellent animation, whether in a feature film or short. They’ve done it again!
CRITICISM: The main things that bug me to death are...
1...What happened to Bo Peep, Lenny and RC?! A garage sale is a horrible explanation because the scene in Toy Story 2 where Woody rescues Wheezy seems pointless now. He just ended up there anyway!
This really annoys me once more because Pixar's selling new "on model" RC toys and he's not even in the movie! Wasn't he an essential part of the gang? He had a very important role in the first movie.
Maybe I'm taking this too far, but Pixar has definitely played favorites on who stays and goes just to bring in hundreds of new characters that only get 5 minutes of screen time.
2...I agree with jpanimation on the trash incinerator scene. It was so similar to The Brave Little Toaster that I couldn't feel worried for them. Yah, Lotso was a jerk and the toys accepting their fate was touching, but I saw the aliens coming to save them a mile away. They couldn't resist referencing the Claw one last time.

estefan wrote:The best way to describe this film is through emoticons:

:D :cry: :D :cry: :D :cry: :D :cry: :D :cry: :cry: :D
This is so true. Just like Up I laughed as much as I cried during this movie.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:12 pm
by magicalwands
SillySymphony wrote:This really annoys me once more because Pixar's selling new "on model" RC toys and he's not even in the movie! Wasn't he an essential part of the gang? He had a very important role in the first movie.
Maybe I'm taking this too far, but Pixar has definitely played favorites on who stays and goes just to bring in hundreds of new characters that only get 5 minutes of screen time.
In the Art of Toy Story 3 book, Lee explained they had a discussion on whether Bo Peep could stay. She's a lamp. She couldn't go on an adventure with the rest of the toys. In the end they kind of had to play favorites. They couldn't have all of Andy's toys going to Sunnyside, only to go back home again.