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Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:53 pm
by Sotiris
D82 wrote:New clip featuring Jim Dear and Darling.
I like the atmosphere and the overall aesthetic of the film. I think they did a good job recreating suburban life in 1910.
D82 wrote:Longer version of the "The Dog Moves Out" clip.
I'm glad they went with real dogs instead of fully CG ones. They look so much more natural and real despite the CG mouth movements. I wish The Lion King had gone with that route.
D82 wrote:Voice recording B-roll.
I really like the voice acting. It's one of the rare remakes where every role is well cast.
D82 wrote:Lady And The Tramp Reviews Are In, Here's What The Critics Are Saying
This is where my mind immediately went to when I learned they were race-bending Darling. I hope years from now the film isn't branded as racist because of this reason.
By keeping the original’s period setting but employing a more contemporary, color-blind storytelling approach, the film -- intentionally or not -- is ignoring that it’s setting this Lady and the Tramp story in a time where segregation was real and mixed marriages were illegal in many states, adding another layer to Jim Dear and Darling’s relationship that the film has no interest in exploring. Yes, this is a movie about talking dogs so our disbelief is already intended to be suspended, but Lady and the Tramp’s well-intentioned desire to present a more diverse film palpable to modern sensibilities is inadvertently asking viewers to step into a fantasy world designed for children that is erasing a painful part of America’s past by pretending it just never existed.
Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/04 ... 019-remake

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:56 pm
by Sotiris
Information regarding the songs.
The most obvious change is the removal of the very dated "We Are Siamese" song. The cats are still there, but they sing a new, more uptempo, number, "What a Shame." While less problematic, the new tune still isn't much to get excited about.
Source: https://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/248 ... ie-Rom-Com
Another big change is to the Siamese cats Si and Am who are now named Devon and Rex and are voiced by musicians Nate Wonder and Roman GianArthur, respectively. The original film’s problematic “Siamese Cat Song” has been replaced by an entirely new tune performed by this duo.
Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/04 ... 019-remake
Giving the story some updates, and reworking the entire racist Siamese cat sequence (which is replaced by a song written by Janelle Monáe, Nate "Rocket" Wonder and Roman GianArthur), helps to give the movie somewhat of a fresh spin and make necessary changes to aspects of Lady and the Tramp that simply wouldn't work today.
Source: https://screenrant.com/lady-tramp-2019-movie-reviews/
The Siamese cats become Tabbies so that means they have a new song because you can’t have Tabbies singing, “We are Siamese if you please.” You probably don’t want anyone singing about being Siamese anymore, but at least the characters didn’t get cut out like the crows in Dumbo. The cats are just as destructive and manipulative in this version though. The live-action Lady and the Tramp still has “He’s a Tramp,” “La La Lu” and “Bella Notte.”
Source: https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainmen ... ooch.html/
Fans can rest easy with the beloved romantic ballads, as they retain the flavor of the original while bringing a slightly updated flair. I especially enjoyed “He’s a Tramp” with a jazzy update. It flowed well with a show-stopping performance featuring the great talent of Monáe. It was, however, the one scene where the CGI of the dogs was glaring to me. But, the song makes up for it.
Source: https://www.micechat.com/241111-lady-an ... ssic-tale/
The updates extend to the songs, as well: “He’s a Tramp”, sung by Janelle Monae, has some new lyrics, for example. The most memorable song of the film is still there, however, as the owner of a local Italian restaurant croons “Bella Notte” while Lady and the Tramp share some noodles and a nuzzle. (I would tell you who sings “Bella Notte”, but some things, you should discover for yourself.)
Source: https://www.slashfilm.com/lady-and-the-tramp-review/

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:57 pm
by Sotiris
Articles

The Live-Action ‘Lady And The Tramp’ Remake Prioritizes Inclusivity Over Period Accuracy
https://www.bustle.com/p/the-live-actio ... y-19291166

‘Lady and the Tramp’ raises the bar for inclusiveness and diversity in remakes
https://insidethemagic.net/2019/11/dive ... tramp-bb1/

Just Revealed: Surprise cameo coming to Lady and the Tramp
https://insidethemagic.net/2019/11/ken- ... tramp-bb1/

Adrian Martinez talks live-action ‘Lady and the Tramp’ with Deco
https://wsvn.com/entertainment/deco-dri ... with-deco/

Set Visit Report: Kiersey Clemons On Disney+ Film ‘Lady and the Tramp’
https://www.blackfilm.com/read/2019/11/ ... the-tramp/

‘Lady and the Tramp’ Cast on Remaking a Classic, Premiering on Disney Plus
https://variety.com/2019/scene/news/lad ... 203380796/

How ‘Lady and the Tramp’ Remake Solved Its ‘Siamese Cat Song’ Problem
https://variety.com/2019/music/news/how ... 203404658/

10 Doggone Delightful Discoveries from the Set of Disney+’s Lady and the Tramp
https://d23.com/delightful-discoveries- ... the-tramp/

Janelle Monae Is Pawsitive You’ll Love the Music in Disney+’s Lady and the Tramp
https://d23.com/janelle-monae-lady-and-the-tramp/

Secrets from the Set of Disney+’s Lady and the Tramp
https://d23.com/podcast/d23-inside-disney-episode-11/

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:00 pm
by Sotiris

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:06 am
by disneyprincess11
Here we go about the cats!
Another big change is to the Siamese cats Si and Am who are now named Devon and Rex and are voiced by musicians Nate Wonder and Roman GianArthur, respectively. The original film’s problematic “Siamese Cat Song” has been replaced by an entirely new tune performed by this duo.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/04 ... 019-remake

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:22 pm
by D82
Here's the behind-the-scenes B-roll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzXyyDe3UwQ

Sotiris wrote:This is where my mind immediately went to when I learned they were race-bending Darling. I hope years from now the film isn't branded as racist because of this reason.
By keeping the original’s period setting but employing a more contemporary, color-blind storytelling approach, the film -- intentionally or not -- is ignoring that it’s setting this Lady and the Tramp story in a time where segregation was real and mixed marriages were illegal in many states, adding another layer to Jim Dear and Darling’s relationship that the film has no interest in exploring. Yes, this is a movie about talking dogs so our disbelief is already intended to be suspended, but Lady and the Tramp’s well-intentioned desire to present a more diverse film palpable to modern sensibilities is inadvertently asking viewers to step into a fantasy world designed for children that is erasing a painful part of America’s past by pretending it just never existed.
Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/04 ... 019-remake
I had also thought of that. It's great that Disney is making their films more diverse; that was really needed. And on the one hand, showing white people and black people living in harmony together sends a good message to kids, plus it seems unfair that all films with black actors set in the past have to tackle the issue of racism. However, on the other hand, it's also true that in a film that's supposed to be set in the real world and in a real time period, to pretend that racism wasn't a problem seems disrespectful to the people that suffered its consequences. I think they should've done what they did in The Princess and the Frog and at least hint at the problems black people faced back then at some point of the movie.

By the way, thanks for all the updates, Sotiris!

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:18 am
by Disney Duster
D82 wrote:I think they should've done what they did in The Princess and the Frog and at least hint at the problems black people faced back then at some point of the movie.
Good idea.

The commercials for this film on The Little Mermaid Live! had me feeling this will be a very funny movie and Disney's funniest remake.

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:27 am
by DisneyFan97
disneyprincess11 wrote:Here we go about the cats!
Another big change is to the Siamese cats Si and Am who are now named Devon and Rex and are voiced by musicians Nate Wonder and Roman GianArthur, respectively. The original film’s problematic “Siamese Cat Song” has been replaced by an entirely new tune performed by this duo.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/04 ... 019-remake
I am really happy i finally got know that. I think it's nice nod to the oirgina that l the cats like in the animated are voiced by the person or perons in this case also wrote thier song. Peggy voiced then in the orginal if you recall.

But it's really surprising that the cats are male wasn't expecting that ! :o

Also i guess thier names were changed for the same reason thier song was reworked ?

I hope Disney Plus comes to Sweden soon ! so i can watch this and also see what swedish voice cast looks like. I asumme this movie will be dubbed into swedish when streaming serivice launches in Sweden :D

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:18 pm
by D82

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:25 pm
by Sotiris
D82 wrote:I think they should've done what they did in The Princess and the Frog and at least hint at the problems black people faced back then at some point of the movie.
Yes, that would have been a good compromise. Something that doesn't take you out of the film or distort its tone. Perhaps a throwaway line about the neighbors not liking them or something like that?
D82 wrote:New featurette.
Cuteness overload! :)

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:14 pm
by D82
New clip featuring Yvette Nicole Brown as Aunt Sarah:
https://youtu.be/kLgL2BwcpQ8?t=187

And more TV spots:
https://twitter.com/DisneyStudios/statu ... 0490776576
https://twitter.com/DisneyStudios/statu ... 5430293504

Sotiris wrote:Yes, that would have been a good compromise. Something that doesn't take you out of the film or distort its tone. Perhaps a throwaway line about the neighbors not liking them or something like that?
Yes, that for example would've been a good idea.

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:11 am
by Sotiris
The cats were originally going to be female.
The new song, “What a Shame,” is sung by a pair of obnoxious Devon Rex felines who tear apart the family living room, so instead of faux-Asian sounds and “we are Siamese if you please” lyrics, Wonder and GianArthur reimagined the pair as would-be interior decorators who have their way while the owners are out.

“The song went through quite a few iterations,” says Wonder. “It needed to be funny and fun, and the cats needed to be cheeky. We took on the challenge gingerly.” They visited the Disney Archives in Burbank, Calif., where they were able to examine the manuscripts of the original Peggy Lee-Sonny Burke song.

“When we saw the development, the process that it went through, we thought, we’ll get there,” Wonder adds. “We knew we were on the right track when we started laughing while we were trying to record it. We were cracking each other up. A lot of it didn’t make it into the final song, but we knew it was funny enough to send along [to the filmmakers]. We had to figure out how to get the irony in there,” adds GianArthur. “That’s one thing we tried to protect from the original. These cats never acknowledge Lady. We thought, maybe they’re interior decorators, and once we had that we really started laughing.”

They ended up singing the song in the film, but that was not the original intent, GianArthur reveals. In their early demos, the voices were female, but “when we did it, it just landed,” he says. They delivered a demo with male voices and Disney executives asked who the singers were. “Well, that’s us,” Wonder — who is allergic to cats — conceded.
Source: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/how ... 203404658/

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:10 pm
by UmbrellaFish
Tbh, they have sold me on this movie with all the press photos. Little Miss Lady can pose, gurl. She has taken so many adorable photos on the red carpet and at Disneyland. I hope she (and all the animals in this movie) have loving owners who treat her well!

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:18 pm
by Sotiris

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:49 pm
by D82
Soundtrack track list: https://filmmusicreporter.com/2019/11/1 ... k-details/

You can listen to snippets of the tracks on this Japanese website. The soundtrack will be released digitally tomorrow.

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:25 am
by Sotiris
D82 wrote:Soundtrack track list.
A bit disappointed they didn't record full versions of What Is a Baby, La La Lu, and He's a Tramp for the end credits. I don't really like Peace on Earth so I would have preferred any other song in its place. A pop rendition of Bella Notte seems like a no-brainer for the end credits. Odd they didn't go for it.
D82 wrote:You can listen to snippets of the tracks on this Japanese website.
It's available on Amazon as well. It's a shame there won't be a physical album. That's a big downside with the Disney+ originals. Let's hope they'll at least release the movie on physical media. I'm pleasantly surprised by Janelle's version of He's a Tramp. Although it differs from the original, it still feels suitable for the era. Her new song That's Enough is nice too. It's similar in sound to He's a Tramp. What a Shame is OK. Not as catchy as The Siamese Cat Song obviously but not bad either. I was expecting much worse from the descriptions.

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:18 am
by Sotiris
The soundtrack is out now.

Image
Source: https://disneymusic.co/LadyAndTheTramp

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:59 pm
by JeanGreyForever
Has anybody seen the film yet? I'm curious what people's thoughts are about it.

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:21 pm
by Toky
I’ve seen it, and adore it....It’s pretty much a copy of the animated movie(has the same charming details)....

Can imagine why they put it out on Disney+, cause it’s not really a blockbuster(the movie is quite slow paced and not much happens), but it’s very charming. Most negative point is the cgi, which was sometimes too obvious(dogs faces). It includes most songs(minus siamese cat song-replaced by a jazzy song), and has been made a little more diverse in cast(which actually fits in quite good due to change in location)...

Altogether I would say it’s one of my favorite remakes...although i always loved the original..

Re: Lady and the Tramp (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:05 pm
by Vlad
I just saw it. I thought it was super cute and charming. :)