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Preorders have been posted on Amazon.ca. They're listing a 2-Disc and a 3-Disc version on Blu-ray. I'm wondering what the difference is (although I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a digital copy).

http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/1 ... ay&x=0&y=0

Another thing I found peculiar is that the release date is FEBRUARY 7TH. This seems odd to me because the Spring Diamond release is usually in March. However, this may be so early so that Disney can cross-promote the movie with Valentine's Day.

Well, I'm HOPING the Blu-ray will have three discs (2 Blu-ray discs, one DVD). Maybe then they're not being TOO lazy that way.

Unlike a few certain Blu-ray releases we've got.

DisneyJedi wrote:Well, I'm HOPING the Blu-ray will have three discs (2 Blu-ray discs, one DVD).

I wouldn't hold your breath.

zackisthewalrus wrote:Preorders have been posted on Amazon.ca. They're listing a 2-Disc and a 3-Disc version on Blu-ray. I'm wondering what the difference is (although I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a digital copy).

http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/1 ... ay&x=0&y=0

Another thing I found peculiar is that the release date is FEBRUARY 7TH. This seems odd to me because the Spring Diamond release is usually in March. However, this may be so early so that Disney can cross-promote the movie with Valentine's Day.

They changed the listing, it is indeed a digital copy

Seeing how Bambi came out in February in the UK, and LatT will come out in Jan in Brazil, Feb in Canada doesn't seem as odd. I hope you're right though and it'll get a worldwide release before V day

well the sideways titles are still horrible(no idea why disney still uses them and it seems that for the bluray of the lion king we will get them too for the first time ugh )

but the pictures on the covers aren't bad... i mean the bluray cover looks a bit weird with the pizza guy in the back(as if he is a main character) and the characters positioned more in a corner (its a bit like they cut the old cover and pasted the characters oddly ) but but the dvd cover looks pretty decent to me

I have to say I do prefer the DVD cover ;-(

Press Release!:

http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/3 ... ns-in-2012

"DISNEY TO RELEASE TWO AMAZING CLASSICS FROM THE VAULT IN 2012…

LADY AND THE TRAMP & CINDERELLA

BOTH FILMS WILL SOON BE ADDED TO THE COMPANY’S PRESTIGOUS
COLLECTION OF BLU-RAY™ HI-DEF DIAMOND EDITION CLASSICS




Burbank, Calif., November 11, 2011 – The Walt Disney Studios proudly announces the addition of LADY AND THE TRAMP and CINDERELLA to its coveted, cutting-edge Blu-ray™ Diamond Collection line-up of animated classics. Released from the Disney vault for a limited time only, the lovingly pampered cocker spaniel and the mutt from across the tracks will unveil on February 7, 2012 and Cinderella’s clock will strike midnight in Fall 2012.

Disney’s Blu-ray Diamond Collection represents The Walt Disney Studios’ most prestigious and treasured animated classics. Diamond Edition titles boast the highest level of picture and sound; feature groundbreaking, state-of-the-art immersive bonus content; and include unprecedented levels of interactivity, personalization and customization, made possible because of Blu-ray technology.

To date, the company has released four Diamond Edition titles – Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Beauty and the Beast, Bambi and The Lion King.

About Lady and the Tramp (February 7, 2012):
Generations of fans have fallen in love with Disney's 15th animated masterpiece -- an irresistible song-filled adventure about Lady, a lovingly pampered cocker spaniel, and Tramp, a roguish mutt from across the tracks.

When Aunt Sarah moves in with her devious felines Si and Am to baby-sit, the very protective Lady soon finds herself being fitted for the unthinkable -- a muzzle! In her bid for freedom, she meets and is charmed by Tramp, dog-about-town. Together with friends Jock, Trusty, and Peg, they share thrilling adventures on an enchanting evening as Lady learns what it means to be footloose and leash-free.

Lady and the Tramp will be available at retails as follows:

3-Disc Blu-ray Combo Pack (Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy) = $44.99 U.S./$51.99 Canada
2-Disc Blu-ray Combo Pack (Blu-ray + DVD) = $39.99 U.S./$46.99 Canada
1-Disc DVD = $29.99 U.S./$35.99 Canada
High Definition Digital = $39.99 U.S./$46.99 Canada
Standard Digital = $29.99 U.S./$35.99 Canada

About Cinderella (Fall 2012):
Disney's Cinderella has enchanted generations with its unforgettable story, Academy Award®-nominated music (1950 for Scoring of a Musical Picture, Song “Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo," and Sound Recording) and endearing characters. With a wave of her wand and some “Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo,” Cinderella’s Fairy Godmother transforms an ordinary pumpkin into a magnificent coach and Cinderella’s rags into a gorgeous gown, and then sends her off to the royal ball. But Cinderella’s enchanted evening must end when the spell is broken at midnight. It will take the help of her daring animal friends Jaq and Gus and a perfect fit into a glass slipper to create the ultimate fairy tale ending.

About Walt Disney Studios:
For more than 85 years, The Walt Disney Studios has been the foundation on which The Walt Disney Company (DIS: NYSE) was built. Today, the Studio brings quality movies, music and stage plays to consumers throughout the world. Feature films are released under four banners: Walt Disney Pictures, which includes Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar Animation Studios; Disneynature; Touchstone Pictures; and Marvel. Original music and motion picture soundtracks are produced under Walt Disney Records and Hollywood Records, while Disney Theatrical Group produces and licenses live events, including Broadway theatrical productions, Disney on Ice and Disney LIVE!. For more information, please visit www.disney.com.

I do like the golden border they added for the 3-Disc edition.

They should just call it the Cubic Zirconia collection for remaining titles

I really don't know HOW the digital copy will add anything to the combo pack.

Ok, so near as I can tell, the following extras from the old 2 disc Platinum release WON'T be on the new Blu-ray. If I'm missing or off on one of these, some one please tell me!

Anyway, the list:

"Return to Marceline"
"A Perfect Little Lady: The Story of Lady and the Tramp"
"Ruff Animation"
"Canine Chorus: The Music of Lady and the Tramp"
"Teaching a Dog to Talk: The Voices of Lady and the Tramp"
"Pretty As A Picture: Art and Design"
"Epilogue: Return Home"
Galleries

So we're not getting the original Academy ratio along with the scope version? What a missed opportunity!

Really hoped it would be included!

Matt

milojthatch wrote:Ok, so near as I can tell, the following extras from the old 2 disc Platinum release WON'T be on the new Blu-ray. If I'm missing or off on one of these, some one please tel me!

Anyway, the list:

"Return to Marceline"
"A Perfect Little Lady: The Story of Lady and the Tramp"
"Ruff Animation"
"Canine Chorus: The Music of Lady and the Tramp"
"Teaching a Dog to Talk: The Voices of Lady and the Tramp"
"Pretty As A Picture: Art and Design"
"Epilogue: Return Home"
Galleries

.... Are they TRYING to piss us off?!

I'm also pissed because once again the Blu-ray case is paired with a digital copy and hence it's more expensive. First Winnie the Pooh, now this!

Sotiris wrote:I'm also pissed because once again the Blu-ray case is paired with a digital copy and hence it's more expensive. First Winnie the Pooh, now this!

I don't think you have anything to worry about, Blu-ray.com is listing 2 Blu-ray case editions:

Blu-ray/DVD/Digital copy (gold border)
Blu-ray/DVD (blue border)

Additionally there is a DVD/Blu-ray edition (silver border), which comes in a DVD case. Counting these and the DVD edition, looks like there will be 4 releases of this one title!

DisneyJedi wrote:

milojthatch wrote:Ok, so near as I can tell, the following extras from the old 2 disc Platinum release WON'T be on the new Blu-ray. If I'm missing or off on one of these, some one please tel me!

Anyway, the list:

"Return to Marceline"
"A Perfect Little Lady: The Story of Lady and the Tramp"
"Ruff Animation"
"Canine Chorus: The Music of Lady and the Tramp"
"Teaching a Dog to Talk: The Voices of Lady and the Tramp"
"Pretty As A Picture: Art and Design"
"Epilogue: Return Home"
Galleries

.... Are they TRYING to piss us off?!

Folks that want to completely replace the DVD's of these films with the Blu-ray I find are out to dry most times. Just like "Lion King" or "Fantasia" before it you really need to hold on to both versions for the BEST possible collection. I don't see however how the Blu-ray is so much better then the DVD. I really think Disney does a great job of handicapping themselves here. Oh well, thanks goodness for the DVD's!

Perhaps Disney is just under the impression that the hard core collectors that care about the bonus features have the DVD's. They only see a point in placing new features on these releases instead of recycling older ones. Afterall, we have to admit that most people (including many of ourselves) buy the blu release for the film itself, not it's extras. It could be that Disney sees the older PE extras are somewhat dated as well.

I'm not really defending Disney in not created more and better extra features, but I don't find any use in crying over features I already own.

singerguy04 wrote:Perhaps Disney is just under the impression that the hard core collectors that care about the bonus features have the DVD's. They only see a point in placing new features on these releases instead of recycling older ones. Afterall, we have to admit that most people (including many of ourselves) buy the blu release for the film itself, not it's extras. It could be that Disney sees the older PE extras are somewhat dated as well.

I'm not really defending Disney in not created more and better extra features, but I don't find any use in crying over features I already own.

I'd buy into that notion except that bonus features have been one of the things Disney uses to get people to ditch DVD for Blu-ray, and now Blu-ray for Blu-ray 3D. It has been used in advertising as part of the list of reasons fans should go Blu. It seems to me, after putting so much energy into trying to sell people on how much more superior Blu-ray is, they'd do a better job of making that a full reality. People who just care about the movie alone buy DVD's still, like my brother. It's cheaper and why would you care about the extras normally found on Blu-ray's alone, if you hold that view anyway?

Odds are, folks that care about Hi Def are also going to care about extras. However,folks that care about extras are not necessarily going to care about Hi Def. That is why Disney has done a great job of stripping the various DVD releases down to nothing. I'll admit, the few Blu-ray's I've personally bought are becuase of extras. If it wasn't for that, I'd still be 100% DVD.

yeah, i see your point. I guess from my standpoint, I really enjoy blu-ray because visually I can see a difference between DVD and this. I also enjoy the overall package quality, which is a silly aesthetic thing i know.

I think recent ads for blu haven't really called on it for extra features though. When Blu was first introduced it was, but recently I think most of the advertising has been towards picture and sound, or towards the whole 3D aspect. Disney knows they aren't stacking these releases like they were even a year ago, and I don't think they're pulling anything on us either. We, as fans, just have expectations that aren't being met. If we look at what they are selling though, it's not like they are lying.

Whether we like it or not, this is how things are shaping up to be. At least we do have our older releases to fall back on, right?

^ I wouldn't care if these releases were crappy if it weren't for the insert in the Snow White case that said:
"<b>and featuring groundbreaking, state-of-the-art immersive bonus content with an unprecedented level of interactivity, personalization and customization</b>"

They made it seem like we were quite literally getting diamonds. So it's a joke when they try to pass off the release as "2-Disc" for including a DVD with every packaging. And now a digital copy to make it seem more amazing and "groundbreaking". And on the Lion King it says one of the bonus features is the Digital Restoration.. I thought that was a given but aparently we're lucky to even get them restored "before their original brilliance" Haha idk... they have some crack-head marketers