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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:15 pm
by Little Red Henski
Pasta67 wrote:I was just about to post that. It's a real shame, especially since the old Disney DVD of Laputa actually had a correct translation of the Japanese script. Wouldn't you know it, I went out and bought the new CitS DVD just today, then I get back, open it, and find that it's dubtitled. Now I've gotta go out and completely rebuy the old disc just to have a proper translation of the original screenplay (and the old subs were mistimed, to boot).

At least with the Kiki disc, we were already kind of expecting the dubtitles.
If you have a multi region DVD player you can get the JPN DVD. You will get propel subtitles and they will be timed correctly. Plus you will get the old JAL English dub as a bonus.

It seems Disney has removed the extra dialog from there Castle in the Sky dub just liked they did to Kiki. I've been hearing conflicting report about if they also removed the updated score or not.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:11 pm
by Pasta67
Well now I'm just beyond confused.

According to the UD review, the literal Japanese translations are indeed on the new disc. Aaron makes it a point to say that he doesn't have the 2003 disc for reference, so the 2010 DVD must have been the only one he watched. He even says in the review that upon watching the film and comparing, he noticed the script changes that Disney made when they dubbed the film.

So apparently the Japanese script translations are indeed on the 2010 disc, but every scene I spot-checked, both English sub tracks were exactly the same, completely verbatim (and I spot-checked quite a few scenes).

Perhaps Aaron would be able to clear this up a tad? ^_^; His is the only analysis of the disc I've read that doesn't confirm the film is dubtitled.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:27 am
by Little Red Henski
The problems on the new Castle in the SKY dvd were revealed in a post on escapistmagazine.com forum. Can you look over this post aaron and confirm the info.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... se#5220956

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:32 am
by ajmrowland
Ok, Im gonna buy FFXIII at toysrus, and combine the free gift card with the coupon for ponyo, and ponyo will be $7.00.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:17 am
by Luke
Thanks for the additional info. I'm going to go back and try to compare the whole new English dub versus the old one on <i>Kiki's</i>. Trying to figure out the best way to do that. Maybe Aaron can do something similar for <i>Castle</i>.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:49 am
by Doctor Syn
Is Ponyo available at DMC, yet? I can't seem to find it.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:44 pm
by ajmrowland
ZJust watched ponyo first time. loved it. there's something about those Ghibli movies that just sticks.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:21 am
by jpanimation
HAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMM!!!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:29 am
by Audiojoe

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:54 am
by toonaspie
Wow, now I'm definitly glad I didnt get these films when they were first released cause the special features seem to be richer than before.

I will definitly need to get Castle in the Sky and possibly Totoro (despite the english dub being not so great :P ) and maybe Ponyo but I havent decided if I am gonna get the regular DVD or the Combo Pack. It would kinda pointless to get the Combo pack when the other Ghibli films are not in blu ray form.

Plus I also need money. :lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:38 pm
by ajmrowland
I just learned something new about the Ponyo blu-ray: that choosing the Japanese track triggers seamless branching to the original credits.

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:38 pm
by jpanimation
I like the fact that Disney is trying to make these older dubs more faithful to the original Japanese source but they should've at-least made the originals available for those who like them (yeah, it'd confuse soccer moms having two English dubs).

I consider dropping the Sydney Forest songs from Kiki's and dropping the expanded Joe Hisaishi orcastrated soundtrack from Laputa to be big enough changes to warrant inclusion (god knows the Blu-rays can hold them). The missing added dialogue doesn't bother me.

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:13 pm
by TheSequelOfDisney
Does anyone know of the email address for Customer Service to see what I can do about the "fan voice" in KiKi's Delivery Service? After watching my old VHS and comparing the two, it really is rather bothersome and out of place. Thanks!

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:57 pm
by ajmrowland
It might be an issue with the master, but i doubt it.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:06 pm
by AwallaceUNC
Luke wrote:Thanks for the additional info. I'm going to go back and try to compare the whole new English dub versus the old one on <i>Kiki's</i>. Trying to figure out the best way to do that. Maybe Aaron can do something similar for <i>Castle</i>.
I'm tracking down the old DVD (which I do not have a copy of) to do the same thing. To clarify, what I noticed in the new DVD release is that the subtitles do not always match the dialogue spoken in English. I will take a closer look at the old DVD and try to come up with a truly comprehensive comparison of the audio dubs and subtitles on the two discs, rather than trying to compare what I've read about the old disc without actually having it in my possession.

Thanks for bringing all this to my attention.

-Aaron

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:25 pm
by ajmrowland
I was just at the Autism Society Conference, and whe I mentioned that Ponyo was the last movie I saw, people stirred. Some kid said Ponyo is horrible(:x ) and that Castle In the Sky was his favorite movie, and a girl said My Neighbor Totoro was hers.

Why Im saying this is that a few people actually heard of Studio Ghibli! :o

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:49 pm
by magicalwands
ajmrowland wrote:Why Im saying this is that a few people actually heard of Studio Ghibli! :o
:D!!!!

I'll admit I only took a blind-buy at Howl's Moving Castle a few years ago because Pete Docter's name was on the back. When I watched it I was like, "Whoa, I gotta see what else this 'Miyazaki' guy made!" In a way, I probably would have never tried Studio Ghibli on my own because I have this perception of Anime that all of the characters have big eyes, huge guns, and a ton of action scenes.

But back on topic, scrolling through dvdtalk.com and blu-ray.com forums, you have to know people are addicts over there and they buy EVERY movie released whether they like it or not. So, for Ponyo, a mother posted she bought the movie, thinking it's just a kids film to keep her children occupied, but she said she hasn't heard a peep from them since she put it in. I get so excited when kids are mesmerized like that!

I just thought - now with Ghibli's new golden case art, which will be on every Ghibli release, it will be easier for people to spot Miyazaki and allows people to trust it.

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:11 pm
by ajmrowland
The electronic Babysitter Strikes Again!!!!!!! :roll:

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:48 am
by Scamander
My Ponyo-import arrived a few days ago and because it's useless for me I wondered if someone is interested in using my movie rewards code. Just pm me and you'll get it if no one is faster.^^

EDIT: too late now :)