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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:52 pm
by Escapay
JustOneBite87 wrote:
SpringHeelJack wrote:...so the classics should all be viewed on a iPod for maximum clarity?
LOL....the logic behind the "digital copy" is finally revealed. :lol:
And we have Marky to thank for it.

After all, the smaller the screen, the greater the clarity!

:brick:

albert

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:04 pm
by The_Iceflash
:lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:47 pm
by SpringHeelJack
Image

Truly, the film has never looked better.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:15 pm
by Marky_198
Escapay wrote:
After all, the smaller the screen, the greater the clarity!
Well, I don't know how much facts and examples you need to have in front of you before you start to think, but as you can see:

The higher the resolution, the "lesser" the clarity.
And that's what's extremely obvious in this example and the actual films on Blu ray.

But I'm glad you adore it so much. And who know's, in the future, with even higher resolutions it can even get blurrier and more fantastic!

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:33 pm
by ajmrowland
^Tell that to my PS2 vs. my PS3.

Tell that to those who actually own an HDTV, have blu-ray, and have it connected via HDMI.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:34 pm
by my chicken is infected
Escapay wrote:
JustOneBite87 wrote:LOL....the logic behind the "digital copy" is finally revealed. :lol:
:lol:

Speaking of that, I put my digital copy of Up on my iPod the day my DVD arrived. For no real reason except it was my first digital copy DVD SINCE getting my iPod, so I put it on there just because I could. :P

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:37 pm
by Escapay
Marky wrote:Well, I don't know how much facts and examples you need to have in front of you before you start to think
Ditto to you...
Marky wrote:The higher the resolution, the "lesser" the clarity.
Compare this:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompar ... 1%2003.jpg

to this:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRevie ... u-ray3.jpg

Or, if you want a Princess example:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRevie ... ay/2sd.jpg

versus

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRevie ... u-ray2.jpg

Which one has more clarity? Oh, that's right. The Blu-Rays. :roll:

albert

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:19 pm
by SpringHeelJack
Marky_198 wrote:The higher the resolution, the "lesser" the clarity.
And that's what's extremely obvious in this example and the actual films on Blu ray.
Image

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:42 pm
by Margos
.... and he never will. :P

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:09 am
by 2099net
Marky_198 wrote:
Escapay wrote:
After all, the smaller the screen, the greater the clarity!
Well, I don't know how much facts and examples you need to have in front of you before you start to think, but as you can see:

The higher the resolution, the "lesser" the clarity.
And that's what's extremely obvious in this example and the actual films on Blu ray.
So you were lying before when you said they were so sharp on Blu-ray you got a headache? Or that the detail on the Prince in Snow White made him look like a woman?

You logic has no logic. Just because 1 scene in 1 film looks blurrier (according to you - which most likely reflects how it has always looked. You can't expect a restoration to go beyond the original; in fact, you complain when they do!) doesn't mean all films have less clarity on Blu-ray.

its like saying "My cat is white, therefore all cats are white".

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:29 am
by Marky_198
2099net, if you take a magnifying glass and go watch the film through that, and sit 1 inch away from your screen, you can see the blurryness (and many other scenes that are sharp) even better.

Do you enjoy the film more if you do that?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:37 am
by Jules
*this part of post deleted since it was written when I was not in the right state of mind. haha.*

Santa Marija ... ma nifilħekx aktar, Marky!

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:48 am
by Margos
Julian Carter wrote:kkkk
:?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:02 am
by PatrickvD
Marky_198 wrote:2099net, if you take a magnifying glass and go watch the film through that, and sit 1 inch away from your screen, you can see the blurryness (and many other scenes that are sharp) even better.

Do you enjoy the film more if you do that?
the question is: do you?

You're the one starting these topics complaining about things you've learned from analyzing the films up close. Good Lord just let it go! What's the point anyway???

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:26 am
by dvdjunkie
Here comes the ramblings of the resident 'Grumpy Old Man'.

Here's what I think about all of your crticisms of the Blu-Ray picture.

1. You must not have your Blu-Ray hooked up correctly using the HDMI cables that generally are not provided with your Blu-Ray player.

2. You probably don't have a 'true' HDTV Plasma or LCD Flat Panel Monitor.

3. You probably haven't had it professionally 'optimized' for best picture and sound after the 200-hour break in period.

4. Thinking that you know more about picture optimization because you own a THX-included optimizer, so you do it yourself can cause real problems.

5. And just for the sake of being one of the "joneses" you join this thread because you think it is the cool thing to do.

6. You think watching a movie on a 2" iPOD screen is cool.

Now I have points 1, 2 and 3 covered like a blanket, and I DO NOT see anything that you are talking about or have talked about in the past 7 pages.

I personally own all of the Disney and Disney/Pixar releases so far on Blu-Ray, and find that they are prestine in picture and sound. I don't find any of the "clay-looking" skin tones that some talk about, but that is because I have had my television professionally calibrated for best picture and sound by a technician who knows what he is doing. (Sure it costs about $150, but my television is now using less energy, and I will have extended the life of my panels by about 50,000 hours because of this optimization.

I love the 'pillar-boxing' on "Pinocchio" and "Snow White", and think that the Wide Screen of "Sleeping Beauty" is just what the doctor ordered for watching the Disney Animated Classics. I hope that they keep up this quality with "Dumbo" and whatever follows.

It seems that some of you like to tinker with your television sets and your DVD players and that could be the problem you are having. Why not set up the DVD player to be compatible with your TV and then sit back and enjoy the movie. Don't touch the "zoom" button because you don't like the unused portion of your television screen (the black bars) and just enjoy what you are seeing. After all, it is the picture that you paid money to see in the movie theater, not some genius at Disney who is only showing you what he wants you to see.

All of the Digitally Animated Films of the past few years look phenomenal in Standard DVD upgraded on a Blu-Ray player and no amount of extras will get me to replace those with a Blu-Ray version. I don't have to be the leader of the pack, or the follower. I just buy what I want, and what looks best on the Blu-Ray player and my HDTV.

So unless you are a professional photographer who has applied for a job at the Disney studios because you think you can do a better job, step back and see what it is that you are really complaining about. Have you caused your problems by not having the correct player, TV, or hook-up accessories. Or are you needlessly pushing buttons on your DVD player that don't need to be pushed because you think you can improve the picture.

Just be thankful that we can all enjoy these Classic Disney Treasures in the comfort of our own home, and quit being so critical of what you have.

Sorry for the rant, but after reading seven pages of these silly complaints, I just had to say something.

:D

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:59 am
by my chicken is infected
WONDERFUL rant. :D Bravo!

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:18 am
by ajmrowland
You just reminded me whyb some of us can only afford to tinker. :P

Digital Video Essentials=next best thing!

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:10 am
by SpringHeelJack
Marky_198 wrote:2099net, if you take a magnifying glass and go watch the film through that, and sit 1 inch away from your screen, you can see the blurryness (and many other scenes that are sharp) even better.
Image

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:19 am
by ajmrowland
Wondy, I think I found you some new quotes! :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:47 pm
by Margos
:clap:
Way to go, dvdjunkie! Excellent speech... :D

Was just wondering, since you seem to know so much about pictue quality, why is my DVD player so dark? It sounds stupid, but dark scenes on any movies that I put in there come out as barely visible. The TV isn't really that way... Is it the player's problem?