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Goliath wrote:

disneyboy20022 wrote:Monty Python's Life of Brian
Casablanca
Citizen Kane
Die Hard 1 & 3
(Silence of the Lambs)
Black Swan
The Shining

Just watch these. All the other titles on your list are big-time crap. Would be a waste of time to watch them.

dvdjunkie wrote:Disneyboy - Why haven't you seen any of those film? Have you been living under a rock or are so stuck on Disney that you won't watch any movie that doesn't have a Disney logo?

Goliath wrote: You act like he listed the best of the best in all of cinematic history. Maybe he has been watching Hitchcock, Ford, Hawks, Wilder, Cuckor, Capra, Coppola, Leone etc.?

No....apparently I'm almost becoming obsessed with Disney as reyquilla, But Meeting Roy E Disney might be the reason. My dad says he thanks the lord each day that My Make A Wish trip wasn't to meet Ty Warner, The Creator of Beanie Babies....or else I would have become more obsessed with Beanie babies and would still collect them today...

Same reason I'm bias when I say I like Jay Leno's Comedy Over Conan....

Anyway...I should Point out I'm Only 24....and I am just now watching movies I wouldn't have watched 10 years ago....(No not porn - I stay away from that as much as possible) such as Jaws, Austin Powers, Good Will Hunting....Having Autism sometimes slows my curve to like certain dislikes of movies....I liked Cartoons, and some movies I've watched recently from when I was younger when I watched them such as Batman, Batman Returns, It makes more sense. I understand the plot...I was only 5 when Batman Returns came out....and yes I loved Batman Forever and Batman and Robin...though now a couple a months ago I was going to watch the 4 batman films back to back but we got to the third one (Batman Forever) and I turned it off....and I loved it as a kid...I also Like Rockadoodle, which is sorta corny..idk... And At some point I might get netflix...at some point in the future....since some Video Rental Stores don't even have the classic movies such as rental stores like Blockbuster and Family Video.....

I should sometime rent or probably The Lord of the Rings Trilogy....when I saw them in theaters, I didn't fully understand them....when I was homeschooled beginning at age 16....My mom taught me empathy, something that some people with Asperger's lacks.......and Jay Leno was my pragmatic Language Class.....Sometimes with Asperger's, people with it can only see them and it's all about me me me.....which my dad has gotten worse over the years with it...he was diagnosed at age 8 or 9 which is about 14 years ago...I hope to watch some of those movies..a lot of them.....and now with that in mind I think I can open my mind to watch films I didn't care for and re-watch films and understand them more being an adult and learning double meanings etc etc...

Anyway...I'll see those movies sometime....

JiminyCrick91 wrote:
As for remakes:

The Wizard of Oz (1939)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956),
The Ten Commandments (1956)!!!
An Affair to Remember (1957),
The Fly (1986),
Father of the Bride (1991)
The Birdcage (1996),
The Departed (2006),
3:10 to Yuma (2007),
True Grit (2010),
Hairspray (and other movies turned musicals turned movies)

The above are all great remakes. I know you said for the most part but the failing of a remake is not on the practice it's self but on the skewed vision or lack of vision of some of the people working today who try to make a good film but just were not the right choice for the project.

Don't forget The Maltese Falcon (1941). Easily one of the best remakes made.

Avaitor wrote: Don't forget The Maltese Falcon (1941). Easily one of the best remakes made.

Oh! Good catch!

-Skyler

JiminyCrick91 wrote:

As for remakes:

The Wizard of Oz (1939) (original was silent)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) (Hitchcock wanted to redo this one)
The Ten Commandments (1956) (original was silent)
An Affair to Remember (1957) (original begged for remake)
The Fly (1986) (the original was much better, even though dated)
Father of the Bride (1991) (terrible, the original and its sequel "Father's Little Dividend" were ten times better than the abortion with Steve Martin)

The Birdcage (1996) (not really a remake, but an Americanized version of a very good foreign film)
The Departed (2006) (same here, originally a foreign film)
3:10 to Yuma (2007) ( I have always said that this was the best remake of a classic western)
True Grit (2010) (very good remake, I have said that all along)
Hairspray (and other movies turned musicals turned movies)

Now you are trying to compare apples to oranges.

My comments after each of your films justifies the remake except in the case of "Father of the Bride".

I am talking about modern day remakes, where Hollywood has said they won't pay writers for original screenplays what they deserve, so they are delving into the libraries to see what they can ruin.

Examples:

Fun With Dick and Jane - the original with George Segal and Jane Fonda was ruined by Jim Carrey and Tea Leoni.

Dr. Dolittle with Rex Harrison was a telling of the story much better than the Eddie Murphy remakes, which included his stupid sequels.

The Shaggy Dog, the original with Fred MacMurray was much better than the terrible version with Tim Allen.

I could go on and on, but you will probably find some reason to find fault with any of those I have listed.

dvdjunkie wrote:As for remakes:

The Wizard of Oz (1939) (original was silent)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) (Hitchcock wanted to redo this one)
The Ten Commandments (1956) (original was silent)
An Affair to Remember (1957) (original begged for remake)

1. Not sure how being a silent film makes the remake any more necessary. To me that's like Gus Van Sant's Psycho being called necessary because of colour. 2. It does not matter that it was Hitchcock that did both and wanted to it's still a remake. 3. How can you be anti-remake for so many cases yet say that Affair was begging for one?

Father of the Bride (1991) (terrible, the original and its sequel "Father's Little Dividend" were ten times better than the abortion with Steve Martin)
The Birdcage (1996) (not really a remake, but an Americanized version of a very good foreign film)
The Departed (2006) (same here, originally a foreign film)

While I have not seen Father's Little Dividend I disagree about Father of the Bride and enjoy both the Martin & Tracy versions. Foreign films remade are still remakes. I'm not into horror but most would tell you Ringu is far better than The Ring and the language has nothing to do with it.

Fun With Dick and Jane - the original with George Segal and Jane Fonda was ruined by Jim Carrey and Tea Leoni.

This one while not as good as the Segal/Fonda version with Ed McMahon but at the time the remake was what the title said fun and really seemed like the best time to try again with Enron and all the awfulness going on in corporations at the time (little did they know things would get worse for everybody). I was a comedy and I laughed which is meant the main point a comedy should be reviewed upon. It did a lot differently and many found it enjoyable.


I see your point and respect it however it was more the blanket statement about remakes that irked me and the pot shot at people who could ever enjoy Brand's Arthur which seemed a tad harsh to them, even if I have yet to see the picture myself. Now while we very obviously are not going to see eye to eye on this issue, and I'd rather not start a silly internet fight especially here, I propose to simply agree to disagree.

-Skyler

JiminyCrick91 wrote:Ok, that's fine. Agree to disagree. As I said it is all about opinion after all and many people did enjoy the remake thus why I put it on here.

Oh, absolutely, I didn't mean to sound argumentative. (Well, that's a first, isn't it?!) I agree, the remake was very succesful, but I think that's because most Americans don't like to see 'foreign' films where they have to read subtitles. They rather watch remakes, which of course get 'Americanized', thus losing a lot of the appeal of the original movie.

disneyboy20022 wrote:Anyway...I should Point out I'm Only 24....and I am just now watching movies I wouldn't have watched 10 years ago....(No not porn - I stay away from that as much as possible)

It's a shame to write off an entire 'genre.' Don't knock it until you've tried it. Just don't expect the stories to be any good.

Hmm...let's see...

NOTE: I own a few of these films but have yet to watch them for one reason or another.

The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
The Godfather Part III
The Shining
Strangers on a Train (I've seen about eleven other Hitchcock movies though)
Aliens
Rosemary's Baby
The Omen
Any slasher movie (unless you count Hitchcock's Psycho)
Miracle on 34th Street (the original)
The Silence of the Lambs
Scarface
GoodFellas
The Departed
Dracula (1958)
The Grapes of Wrath
Lawrence of Arabia
Akira
X-Men
X-Men 2
Superman II
Superman III
Superman IV
Mommie Dearest
Barton Fink
Paths of Glory
Lolita
12 Monkeys
Ben-Hur
The Diary of Anne Frank (1959)
The Ten Commandments
West Side Story (I watched some of it some time ago but was bored to death and haven't tried again since)
Life is Beautiful
Brief Encounter
Seven Samurai
The Seventh Seal
Serpico
Philadelphia
Soylent Green

That's an awful lot...

Time for an update, since it's been a year since my last post.

Avaitor wrote: -The Lord of the Rings trilogy(love the books, never had a chance to watch the movies yet. Feels like too commitment for me, but I will find time before The Hobbit)

Still haven't. I'll try to eventually though, since the extended DVDs are super cheap to find.

Avaitor wrote:-La Dolce Vita

Saw this a while ago. I thought it ran a little too long for my liking, and 8 1/2 was a better experience, but it's still a great film.

Avaitor wrote:-Breathless

Uh-uh. Caught a minute on TCM about a year ago, and that's about it.

Avaitor wrote:-Any Audrey Hepburn movie(Breakfast at Tiffany's is at my house thanks to the magic of Netflix, but I haven't had the time to watch it yet. I will get onto it soon, though)

Yep, shortly after posting this, I watched Breakfast at Tiffany's. I've also seen Love in the Afternoon and Charade. I like them all to different extents, and I think now, Miss Hepburn is tied with Grace Kelly for my favorite actress.

Avaitor wrote:-Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense(which I REALLY need to watch soon)

Also finally got to see this. All fans of music owe it to themselves to watch this film.

Avaitor wrote:-Kiki's Delivery Service(the only Miyazaki flick I haven't seen yet, a couple of minutes on the Disney Channel not withstanding)
-Any non-Miyazaki Ghibli film besides Grave of the Fireflies
-Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid(love The Sting, but I haven't got around to watching this yet)

Nope, but I might watch Butch Cassidy soon while it's on Netflix.

Avaitor wrote:Time for an update, since it's been a year since my last post.

Shit- it's been 2 years since my post! What have I seen on my list since then...

3: Fight Club, All About Eve, and The Big Lebowski. The only one of those to live up to the hype was Eve.

That's a terrible average. Slightly more than 1 per year. Though I'll be getting to Let the Right One In very soon.

Lazario wrote:Though I'll be getting to Let the Right One In very soon.

That's a pretty good one. Knowing how picky you can be though, I'm not sure if you'll like it all that much.

Do you plan on watching Let Me In along with it?

Sure do.

(And, I know you mean. I expect it to be a bumpy ride. I'm typically good with foreign films, however. As long as they're not trying to compete with Argento or Craven or Carpenter or Romero or Hooper.)

Are you aware of the subtitle debacle?

Assuming you're getting it on DVD, look on the back to make sure it says "Theatrical Subtitles". They originally released it with a bunch of dumbed down subtitles that were more like dubtitles (if they had dubbed it.) EDIT: based solely on hearing people grouse about it, I haven't actually seen EITHER version yet.

http://let-the-right-one-in.com/woofy/index.html
Look in the right column under US DVD - Subtitles - Comparison, and also Fixing Them.

littlefuzzy wrote:Are you aware of the subtitle debacle?

Oh... actually, I almost forgot about it. Yes, I'd heard something about that.

I'm watching it on the Netflix: WI version. Don't know which version they've got.

I watched it on Netflix: IW, too, and it was the theatrical one! Great film; book was better.

Dr Frankenollie, I’ve seen all the movies on your list and while I don’t care for some of them, I thought I'd share with you my favorites off the list paired with a brief comment for each:

The Godfather - Near perfect movie, better after each viewing.
Strangers on a Train - One of my top 10 favorite Hitchcock. Criss-cross?
Aliens - Extremely different in tone but every bit as good as the orignal.
Miracle on 34th Street (the original) - My favorite Christmas film.
X-Men 2 - The only good X-Men movie and one of the best superhero movies.
Paths of Glory - Honestely, the only Kubrick film worth watching.
Seven Samurai - VERY long but worth every second of your time.

Lazario wrote:3: Fight Club, All About Eve, and The Big Lebowski. The only one of those to live up to the hype was Eve.

I agree 100%

I'd go as far as to call X2 the best super hero movie ever made, period. The cast is extremely tight, the script combines action, depth and humor very well, and Singer was born to direct the many great fight scenes in the film. The first 2 X-Men movies are well worth watching.

And it's funny, I also got to watch Paths of Glory for the first time today. I don't know why it took me so long. It's a very special film, and the one I think would work best to get someone to believe in Kubrick. It's not as vulgar as A Clockwork Orange or The Shining, long-winded as 2001 or Spartacus, oddly paced as Full Metal Jacket or Barry Lyndon or slow as Dr. Strangelove or Lolita, and doesn't lose the power or craft of any of these movies. One of the greatest anti-war films ever put on screen, and among Kirk Douglas's finest performances.

There's a lot of great films in that list of yours, Frankenhole. I'd get onto some of that if you already haven't.

Monty Python's Meaning of Life
The Jaws movies
The original Superman films
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (not really interested anyway)
The Godfather films
The Shining
2001: Space Odyssey

And a number of others.

Dr Frankenollie wrote:The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
Aliens
Miracle on 34th Street (the original)
Lawrence of Arabia
Mommie Dearest
Ben-Hur
The Ten Commandments
West Side Story (I watched some of it some time ago but was bored to
Philadelphia

Of the ones you haven't seen, these I have and would recommend. Why Mommie Dearest too? It's so dramatic it's ridiculous and makes for an entertaining watch. It was this site that actually brought my attention to it.

I agree with jp about Miracle..., it would be hard to find a better Christmas movie.

Here I am on that remake kick again, but this time I can speak from actually being in the audience for this piece of crap.

Was invited to an Advanced Screening of "Footloose", the newest remake to hit the silver screen, and I am glad that I waited to eat after the show because I would have barfed over everyone in front of me this movie turned my stomach so bad.

Dennis Quaid is no John Lithgow, and the kid they have playing the part that made Kevin Bacon a star is the worst actor I have ever seen. There is no one who could replace Lori Singer as Ariel, but damned if they didn't try - and failed miserably.

The music is all up to date stuff that no one can really dance to, and they have taken the story and twisted it around so poorly that it makes the original look like an Oscar winner - oh wait a minute!! It did win some awards, didn't it.

Anyway save your money, and wait for another week to go by and there should be something a whole lot better coming out. Please avoid this film unless you just want to flush $10 bucks down the drain. Don't say you weren't warned.

Thanks jpanimation and Flanger-Hanger for the advice.

The movies you two highlighted are now at the top of my "Movies-I-Wish-To-See" list.