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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:17 am
by Atlantica
Yes, it is. But you can hardly tell. It's crystal clear.

But it's better than nothing :)

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:25 am
by Ariel'sprince
Ariel'sprince wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:Good observations, atlanticaunderthesea! The "princess and a wife" thing does make it sound like those things are so important. Maybe being a princess is an okay ambition, but if being married is that big a goal to someone, that might not be good. Because it's not always so easy to find someone who will love you like they should and actually be good for you, and you should not depend on the love of one person to make you happy.

Still, I may have been a little harsh in my theory that Disney is pushing women to find men. If that's true, it's also true that men are pushed to find women. Ariel risks her freedom and makes a deal with a witch to be with a man (Eric), but Prince Phillip risks his life and fights a dragon to be with a woman (Aurora). It's just that all the princess stories are romance-driven. Is the reason "boy films" aren't full of romance because little boys think romance (like kissing) is icky? And if so, is it because society thinks so, or do boys really hate romance without interference from the movies and shows they watch, the games they play, or the other men/boys they see?

In The Lion King, Simba's story is about finding his place, and regaining his title, while falling in love with Nala is a small thing. But in The Little Mermaid, even though Ariel wants to be part of a different world is a huge part of the story, falling in love with Eric is just as big a part.

I never thought of it, but there's romance in many more Disney films, not just the princess ones. The difference is the princess ones are almost all about that, but the other "boy" ones give the romance a small part.
Disney Duster,just becouse Cinderella is a princess and a wife that dosn't mean that she has to be stargiht,she can be a lesbian wife but that dosn't matter.
Disney explain that love is what impertant and love to a guy or a girl,it dosn't matter,Disney just don't show lesbain or homo couples so the perents won't be angry.
take Flower from Bambi:he's gay but Disney the perents willl be angry so they officialy that he's gay.
sorry,worth fast,i mean that flower is gay but Disney know that the perents will be angry so they change it.

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:26 am
by Ariel'sprince
Ariel'sprince wrote:change it.
i meant show it.

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:47 am
by Billy Moon
Ariel'sprince wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote:change it.
i meant show it.
You know that you can edit your posts, don't you?

Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:53 am
by Ariel'sprince
Billy Moon wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote: i meant show it.
You know that you can edit your posts, don't you?

Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.
really? :oops:.
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:14 am
by Jules
OK, I got an email from KRS FIlm Distributors Malta:
Sur Carter,

Il-film ENCHANTED mistenni li joħroġ għall-wiri fl-Ingilterra u f'Malta f'Diċembru 2007.

Dejjem tiegħek,

Charles Pace
Direttur
KRS FILM DISTRIBUTORS LIMITED
It's in Maltese, so I guess I must translate:

Mister Carter,

The film ENCHANTED is expected to release in December 2007 in the UK and Malta.

Yours,

Charles Pace
Director
KRS FILM DISTRIBUTORS LIMITED


This is good. :)

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:07 pm
by Dottie
Ariel'sprince wrote:
Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.
really? :oops:.
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.[/quote][/quote]

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:09 pm
by Dottie
Ariel'sprince wrote:
Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.
really? :oops:.
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.[/quote][/quote]

So, Flower is a boy. But he ends up with a girlfriend, girl-skunk, whatever, if I remember correctly, so where's the problem? I don't understand it either.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:23 pm
by Daisy Duck
Flower was happy to be called Flower because flowers smell nice--and you know being a skunk, he probably didn't like having a reputation of being stinky. So I never saw it as an indication of being gay. And yes, he did end up with a female skunk.

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:27 pm
by Disney-Fan
Ariel'sprince wrote:and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.
So I'm curious. What DOES gay laughter sound like? :roll:

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:14 pm
by Billy Moon
I always thought Flower is just extremely shy.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:10 pm
by Dottie
Billy Moon wrote:I always thought Flower is just extremely shy.
Me too.
But I'll have to admit that when I was a kid and watched Bambi for the first time I thought that Flower was a girl when we first get to see him emerging from this "sea" of flowers, but later it is very clear that he is a boy.
He is the cutest of the three, though!

Wow, we're getting really off-topic, but if we're lucky there will be some sweet little fawns, some hungry rabbits and gay skunks in Enchanted. :D

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:32 pm
by Billy Moon
Dottie wrote:Wow, we're getting really off-topic, but if we're lucky there will be some sweet little fawns, some hungry rabbits and gay skunks in Enchanted. :D
I'm sure there will. ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:59 pm
by Poody
Flower was so totally gay.... it was classic! :lol: :P

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:39 pm
by Ariel'sprince
Dottie wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote:
Where did you get the idea that Flower might be gay? I don't understand.
really? :oops:.
Flower is gay-all the males in Bambi has brown eyes and the females has blue eyes,Flower has blue eyes.
when the owl explain them about love he looks at flower and his like "yes,it migtht even happend to you",Flower is also the only who ignored a female.
and when he first met Bambi-"he can call me flower if he want *gay laght*'.
[/quote]

So, Flower is a boy. But he ends up with a girlfriend, girl-skunk, whatever, if I remember correctly, so where's the problem? I don't understand it either.[/quote]
no,he didn't end up with her,he ignored her,and don't you remember what to owl said? he looked werid only on Flower when the talked about Love!.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:42 pm
by Ariel'sprince
Dottie wrote:
Billy Moon wrote:I always thought Flower is just extremely shy.
when I was a kid and watched Bambi for the first time I thought that Flower was a girl
see? i told you so! he's gay allright.

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:13 am
by Billy Moon
Ariel'sprince wrote:no,he didn't end up with her,he ignored her
And then had babies with her... remember? If someone is shy among the opposite sex, it hardly means they're gay.

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:26 am
by Ariel'sprince
Billy Moon wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote:no,he didn't end up with her,he ignored her
And then had babies with her... remember? If someone is shy among the opposite sex, it hardly means they're gay.
he had? :o then i forgot that :o (i didn't see that film a long time).
then he's not gay.

Re: Enchanted

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:17 am
by Aladdin from Agrabah
Ariel'sprince wrote:he had? :o then i forgot that :o (i didn't see that film a long time).
then he's not gay.
Or the creatures of the forest were not open-minded enough to accept him and he got married because he was afraid of the criticism. :lol: :P

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:21 am
by Atlantica
We have had almost a whole page on the Enchanted thread dedicated to a Disney character being gay or not .. .. .. very strange and off topic!