Every single WDAS feature since Bolt has had great reviews. This was clearly expected. The last WDAS feature to have bad reviews was Chicken Little from 2005D82 wrote:I'm glad it's getting good reviews.
Julia Michaels's song will be released tomorrow: https://twitter.com/DisneyMusic/status/ ... 3969885185
I still have fond memories of going to see the film then going to McDonald's with my mom and getting the happy meal with the cool artwork on the box and the finger puppet(I got Georgette & I still have her) and getting the ornament(got Dodger, still have him too.) This was the middle of December 1988 so Oliver and Company always reminds me of the holidays. The following December I did the same exact thing for Little Mermaid, movie-Mcdonalds visit-Happy Meal-holiday ornament.DisneyEra wrote:Was Oliver & Company the first modern-day WDAS feature to have toys from McDonalds? Can't believe these are exactly 30 years apart
Good times. )disneyprincess11 wrote: 3) The Princess Scene
There sure is.bruno_wbt wrote:disneyprincess11 wrote: 3) The Princess Scene
But is there another princess scene at the end? How long are those princess scenes?
The first one is 3 minutes and the last one is a minute and a halfThose 2D tests better show up on the Blu-ray!disneyprincess11 wrote:We got BTS footage after the movie, so we saw a tiny bit of the first draft of the Princess scene that had Yess with the girls, a couple of handrawn tests of Ariel, Snow and Yesss, some art for Vanellope's song, and footage of Taraji's first recording as Yesss.
Of course, knowing Disney they probably won't. 
It makes me sad whenever I see the few 2D animators at Disney resort to this sort of stuff. It's such a waste of their time and talent.D82 wrote:And other videos:
How to draw Vanellope with Mark Henn
By the way, Mark Henn got a new title on this movie. He's now credited as "hand-drawn animation supervisor".Rachel Bibb is credited as "2D clean-up lead" while Eric Goldberg as "additional animator". Randy Haycock is not credited at all.The team was also able to turn to Mark Henn for guidance. “He was the original supervising animator for six of the princesses—Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Mulan, Pocahontas and Tiana. And on ‘Frozen,’ he contributed to Anna and Elsa,” says Lehtomaki. “On top of 14 all that, Mark says that Cinderella was actually the film that inspired him to be an animator. Nobody knows these characters better than Mark. He’d comb through every scene in the film during dailies just to make sure that we remained true to who these ladies were. He’d also go around to our desks and leave thumbnail illustrations to suggest poses or acting choices—little nuggets of gold from his expert brain. He actually did some hand-drawn animation to help teach and inspire us.”
Says Henn, who served as hand-drawn animation supervisor for the film, “The princesses are still the characters we love, we’re just seeing a different side of them. The key is finding the balance. They’re backstage where they can behave like regular girls—just hanging out—but we still had to maintain their personalities.”
Filmmakers decided to have KnowsMore’s eyes hand-drawn, calling on veteran animator
Rachel Bibb to create a dynamic look for the character’s big eyes.
I find it pathetic, to be honest. Disney including every criticism of the princesses and every tired joke that was made against them over the decades to appeal to a certain demographic with no qualms about sullying their legacy in the process screams desperation.bruno_wbt wrote:Have you seen the new Princess spot? It's so funny!
Wow. That's bad. They not only took away their subplot but turned it into a cheap joke.disneyprincess11 wrote:What’s more upsetting is you don’t even see how Felix and Calhoun raise the kids. The kids are literally perfect angels at the end and it comes out of nowhere. And get this: Felix and Calhoun explain to the Surge Protector how they raised the kids. You don’t even hear it. It’s blocked out by the car beeps. Yes, seriously. I get that it’s a joke of how they were written out of the movie, but it’s still a big slap to the face who really want to see these characters. I really wondered what happened that made their story into a literal joke at the end b/c this was clearly super deep in late production of the movie?
That's not only disrespectful to their fans but to the characters themselves. I bet their screen time got cut to accommodate the princess scenes. Fingers crossed! What you're saying makes total sense, but you never know with Disney.disneyprincess11 wrote:Hopefully, they’ll turn these things into a short with the DVD like Auntie Edna b/c….this is like half a movie deleted and they just can’t waste this much stuff of two main characters.
Thank you! I loved the song! While not one of Menken's best, it's still really good. It's a song that feels very familiar. Throughout the whole thing I was reminded of snippets from True Love's Kiss (from Enchanted), Belle (from Beauty and the Beast), Mother Knows Best (from Tangled), and To Be Free (from Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular).D82 wrote:You can already listen to the soundtrack on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/4YWNDk8p ... 8TVEOBKzjQ
Yep, that same year I remember the puppets from Pizza Hut from The Land before Time, that & Oliver both were released on the same day I believe. It seems that Disney usually breaks from McDonald's for a few years, they went to Burger King from Beauty & the Beast through Hunchback. Then went back to McDonalds' through Hercules all the way to Chicken Littleunprincess wrote:I still have fond memories of going to see the film then going to McDonald's with my mom and getting the happy meal with the cool artwork on the box and the finger puppet(I got Georgette & I still have her) and getting the ornament(got Dodger, still have him too.) This was the middle of December 1988 so Oliver and Company always reminds me of the holidays. The following December I did the same exact thing for Little Mermaid, movie-Mcdonalds visit-Happy Meal-holiday ornament.DisneyEra wrote:Was Oliver & Company the first modern-day WDAS feature to have toys from McDonalds? Can't believe these are exactly 30 years apart
I dont know if it was the first modern film to have a happy meal tie in. I dont think it was the first Disney film (overall) to get one, I think they had made one for Cinderella earlier that year, since it had just been released on home video for the first time.
. Then there was nothing for Meet the Robinsons all the way to Wreck it Ralph. Then they got with Subway for Frozen threw Moana, & now they're back with McDonald's with Ralph breaks the Internet. We'll see how long they'll stay with McDonald's this time. Could be awhile.What I especially loved about the McDonalds and Burger King lines was that they didn't just release toys for a film's theatrical debut. They also did toys for the theatrical resissues, the home video releases, anniversaries, etc. and they even gave the cheapquels toy lines as well. It's too bad Mary Poppins Returns isn't getting any sort of toy line at McDonalds, unless it is and I just haven't seen anything for it.DisneyEra wrote:Yep, that same year I remember the puppets from Pizza Hut from The Land before Time, that & Oliver both were released on the same day I believe. It seems that Disney usually breaks from McDonald's for a few years, they went to Burger King from Beauty & the Beast through Hunchback. Then went back to McDonalds' through Hercules all the way to Chicken Littleunprincess wrote: I still have fond memories of going to see the film then going to McDonald's with my mom and getting the happy meal with the cool artwork on the box and the finger puppet(I got Georgette & I still have her) and getting the ornament(got Dodger, still have him too.) This was the middle of December 1988 so Oliver and Company always reminds me of the holidays. The following December I did the same exact thing for Little Mermaid, movie-Mcdonalds visit-Happy Meal-holiday ornament.
I dont know if it was the first modern film to have a happy meal tie in. I dont think it was the first Disney film (overall) to get one, I think they had made one for Cinderella earlier that year, since it had just been released on home video for the first time.
Sotiris wrote:I loved the song! While not one of Menken's best, it's still really good. It's a song that feels very familiar. Throughout the whole thing I was reminded of snippets from True Love's Kiss (from Enchanted), Belle (from Beauty and the Beast), Mother Knows Best (from Tangled), and To Be Free (from Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular).
I'm also surprised that I liked Julia Michaels' version considering that I'm not keen on that music style either. And it's true; it almost doesn't seem it's the same song. I also appreciated that.Sotiris wrote:I even liked the pop version even though it's very electro-pop and auto-tuned which is usually not my thing. Somehow it works for me. Maybe it's because it sounds like a totally different song and doesn't feel like a cover of the movie version.
You never know with the Academy. I mean, they snubbed Evermore which was quite memorable and unique, so catchy and original isn't necessarily what they're looking for. Honestly, I feel the songs are picked more on the basis of their movie's critical reception than the quality of the songs themselves. I still think the pop version would have had a better chance because it's more conventional and palatable and members seem to respond more to pop songs lately than traditional Broadway fare. It seems they no longer appreciate songs with more complex musical structures like that of "Belle". Perhaps they consider that type outdated.D82 wrote:The melody is really nice, but it doesn't stick in your head. Now that I've listened to it, I don't think it will be nominated to the Oscars for that same reason. The end-credits version has a catchier chorus; however, I think they chose to submit the right one, because the latter might be too modern for the Academy members' tastes.
Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/beauty-and ... 1542430801The movie’s filmmakers had a crucial ally for the updated portrayal: former chief creative officer John Lasseter, who had long wanted to bring the princesses down to earth, colleagues say. Mr. Lasseter had received approval and support for the scene from Disney Chief Executive Robert Iger, the CEO, according to people familiar with the matter.
“If I were to make the movies you guys wanted me to make about princesses, I would be murdered,” Mr. Lasseter once told a group raising concerns about the character Merida’s cynical attitude in “Brave,” according to a former colleague. He said, “I couldn’t make the movies Walt Disney made today.”
The only people who seem to like her outside of genuine fans are the hardcore anti-Disney crowd who have incorrect or biased views, so again, why do people take this Ursula's opinion in high regard?
