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Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:21 pm
by estefan
Well, a silent film just won Best Picture not too long ago.
Honestly, Bob Iger strikes me as a President who only makes decisions based on the shareholders. Say what you will about Michael Eisner (and believe me, I'm no fan of his, either), but he at least struck me as somebody with a bit more backbone and independent thought process, even if his board meetings were filled with yes-men.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:32 pm
by TsWade2
Lady Cluck wrote:I have a friend who works inside Disney. I got him to personally ask Bob Iger if there was ever any chance of a full hand drawn feature happening again, and he started cackling hysterically and thought he was making a joke. I'm 100% serious.
Hand drawn is considered a relic of the past with the advances in technology. I guess kind of like silent films used to be.
Sorry

Is this a joke?
If so, here's my joke.
TsWade2: Hey Bob! Will you let John Lasseter do another hand drawn movie?
Bob: No!
TsWade2: Please?
Bob: No!
TsWade2: I'll say you're better than Michael Eisner.
Bob: No! Hand drawn is dead! Deal with it, you nostalgic idiot!
TsWade2: All right! That's it! HIIIIIIYA!
(Beating Bob Iger up.)
Tyler:
(Enters) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5WQu6R_jdM
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:46 pm
by Sotiris
Lady Cluck wrote:I have a friend who works inside Disney. I got him to personally ask Bob Iger if there was ever any chance of a full hand drawn feature happening again, and he started cackling hysterically and thought he was making a joke. I'm 100% serious.
When did this happen?
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:21 pm
by DisneyJedi
Lady Cluck wrote:I have a friend who works inside Disney. I got him to personally ask Bob Iger if there was ever any chance of a full hand drawn feature happening again, and he started cackling hysterically and thought he was making a joke. I'm 100% serious.
Hand drawn is considered a relic of the past with the advances in technology. I guess kind of like silent films used to be.
Sorry

Hang on, that sounds a little too much like a certain scene in Spider-Man 2 when Peter Parker asks his boss, JJ Jameson, about a raise, but Jameson assumes he's making a joke.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:01 pm
by Warm Regards
Lady Cluck wrote:I have a friend who works inside Disney. I got him to personally ask Bob Iger if there was ever any chance of a full hand drawn feature happening again, and he started cackling hysterically and thought he was making a joke. I'm 100% serious.
Hand drawn is considered a relic of the past with the advances in technology. I guess kind of like silent films used to be.
Sorry

...I'm sorry, I really am, but I have a hard time believing such a conversation happened. Call me a skeptic

.
The idea of Bob Iger cackling hysterically makes him on par with a Disney villain.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:03 pm
by DisneyJedi
Warm Regards wrote:
...I'm sorry, I really am, but I have a hard time believing such a conversation happened. Call me a skeptic

.
The idea of Bob Iger cackling hysterically makes him on par with a Disney villain.

I suppose my two-cents on this (two replies up) has no input?

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:08 pm
by TsWade2
Warm Regards wrote:Lady Cluck wrote:I have a friend who works inside Disney. I got him to personally ask Bob Iger if there was ever any chance of a full hand drawn feature happening again, and he started cackling hysterically and thought he was making a joke. I'm 100% serious.
Hand drawn is considered a relic of the past with the advances in technology. I guess kind of like silent films used to be.
Sorry

...I'm sorry, I really am, but I have a hard time believing such a conversation happened. Call me a skeptic

.
The idea of Bob Iger cackling hysterically makes him on par with a Disney villain.

Okay, I get the joke.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:46 am
by SWillie!
Sotiris wrote:Lady Cluck wrote:I have a friend who works inside Disney. I got him to personally ask Bob Iger if there was ever any chance of a full hand drawn feature happening again, and he started cackling hysterically and thought he was making a joke. I'm 100% serious.
When did this happen?
Hahaha Sotiris, come on. Don't feed the trolls, you know better.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:31 am
by Lady Cluck
Yeah it was a joke, but I expected Wade and Disney Jedi to believe it considering they treat Bob Iger like a cackling villain around here
The reality is he's done a lot of good for the company you love so much. The lack of hand drawn animation isn't a personal thing.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:47 am
by Musical Master
Lady Cluck wrote:Yeah it was a joke, but I expected Wade and Disney Jedi to believe it considering they treat Bob Iger like a cackling villain around here
The reality is he's done a lot of good for the company you love so much. The lack of hand drawn animation isn't a personal thing.
That was a good one Lady.
In all seriousness, I would rather have the Bob Iger era of Disney over the last half of the Eisner regime though. Simply because atleast Iger did care about the company and that he did want the Animation Studios to be revitalized in one way or another.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:10 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Yeah, I don't dislike Bob Iger specifically, mostly everyone at the top is to blame for the way things are. Tbh, if there was any one individual I don't like at Disney, it's probably John Lasseter, tbh. But I really don't like him in general and I've always found most of his films overrated (both Pixar and Disney films), so I guess that's to be expected. I'm sure he's alright on a personal level though, not that it matters because I'll never know him anyway.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:27 pm
by thelittleursula
Disney's Divinity wrote:Yeah, I don't dislike Bob Iger specifically, mostly everyone at the top is to blame for the way things are. Tbh, if there was any one individual I don't like at Disney, it's probably John Lasseter, tbh. But I really don't like him in general and I've always found most of his films overrated (both Pixar and Disney films)
^ This so much.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:13 pm
by TsWade2
Well, I'm sure Bob Iger is a great guy and all. I'm glad he brought back Mickey Mouse and friends out of that miserable clubhouse and got their own miniseries. But to be honest, I think he's doing a terrible job for bringing hand drawn animation. Especially, letting the veteran animators go.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:17 am
by GreatGreg
He is a business man, not an artist.
Quite frankly, it's not his job to keep hand-drawn animation going.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:39 am
by Musical Master
TsWade2 wrote:Well, I'm sure Bob Iger is a great guy and all. I'm glad he brought back Mickey Mouse and friends out of that miserable clubhouse and got their own miniseries. But to be honest, I think he's doing a terrible job for bringing hand drawn animation. Especially, letting the veteran animators go.
But there is a good number of them in the studio still, and hand drawn animation is atleast still used in shorts in one way or another. I have heard from someone that there is another short film coming that also uses CG and hand drawn animation so I'm not worried at all.
Again I still perfer this era of Disney than Eisner's disasterous final years as CEO. Oh god...

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:19 pm
by TsWade2
Musical Master wrote:TsWade2 wrote:Well, I'm sure Bob Iger is a great guy and all. I'm glad he brought back Mickey Mouse and friends out of that miserable clubhouse and got their own miniseries. But to be honest, I think he's doing a terrible job for bringing hand drawn animation. Especially, letting the veteran animators go.
But there is a good number of them in the studio still, and hand drawn animation is atleast still used in shorts in one way or another. I have heard from someone that there is another short film coming that also uses CG and hand drawn animation so I'm not worried at all.
Again I still perfer this era of Disney than Eisner's disasterous final years as CEO. Oh god...

Okay. Fair point. Frankly, I like Michael Eisner until he killed hand drawn after Home On the Range. Here's what Fluttershy thinks of Michael Eisner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w2RgURDDXQ 
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:25 pm
by Musical Master
Besides, has everyone forgotten that Kathy Zielinski has come back to Disney from Dreamworks to work on Frozen? Not only is she a really good hand drawn animator but she is really good with computer animation as well.
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:10 am
by Jules
Musical Master wrote:Besides, has everyone forgotten that Kathy Zielinski has come back to Disney from Dreamworks to work on Frozen? Not only is she a really good hand drawn animator but she is really good with computer animation as well.
She has!?

How do you know?
Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:52 am
by Musical Master
Jules wrote:Musical Master wrote:Besides, has everyone forgotten that Kathy Zielinski has come back to Disney from Dreamworks to work on Frozen? Not only is she a really good hand drawn animator but she is really good with computer animation as well.
She has!?

How do you know?
It was in one of Clay Kaytis's tweets that Kathy was part of the animation crew on Frozen, so that's an indicator that she has returned to Disney.

Re: Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:32 am
by Tristy
Musical Master wrote:Jules wrote:
She has!?

How do you know?
It was in one of Clay Kaytis's tweets that Kathy was part of the animation crew on Frozen, so that's an indicator that she has returned to Disney.

You mean the woman who animated Frollo? I wonder which character she did some tests on here.