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Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:01 amWhy haven't they included Asha yet? I know she's not a princess but that didn't stop them before.

Maybe because her movie flopped? Then again, so did Raya's and they included her.

I was wondering about Asha, too. I wondered if her film was so hated they didn't want to include her. I actually liked Wish but I didn't love it.

Sotiris wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:35 pm

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:01 amWhy haven't they included Asha yet? I know she's not a princess but that didn't stop them before.

Maybe because her movie flopped? Then again, so did Raya's and they included her.

Well, I don`t want to sound condescending. But at least Raya was (somewhat) a Princess, for being a daughter of a Chief, unlike Asha.

Disney Duster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:21 pmI actually liked Wish but I didn't love it.

Okay. Why?

"Raya" at least has the pandemic as a cover to account for its box office, though I also think "Raya" was a much better film (even if I don't think she really belongs in the princess line either and will probably be phased out as time goes on).

DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:22 amOkay. Why?

I like magic and the film was a lot about that, and I liked some of the songs, and I liked the animation style.

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:01 am Why haven't they included Asha yet? I know she's not a princess but that didn't stop them before.

Maybe because the franchise is over saturated of characters and they don't want to include more princesses that don't sell great. Including Raya was a big mistake so maybe in the future they'll tink more about including new princesses in the franchise.

Disney Duster wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:21 pm

DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:22 amOkay. Why?

I like magic and the film was a lot about that, and I liked some of the songs, and I liked the animation style.

Well, all in all I liked Wish. I liked the songs and score, the character designs and the voice acting. However, the movie was not without it`s flaws: The comedy was awful, the visual style was a mixed bag, the Disney references were tacky and for all the hoopla of Magnifico being a return to the traditional Disney villain, he was just a passable one. Besides, Asha was essentially a protagonist in a story that wasn`t about her own wants or needs. She simply was active in a plot that could`ve served well without her. So while Wish was a good movie, it was still overall a very flawed one.

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:59 am

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:01 am Why haven't they included Asha yet? I know she's not a princess but that didn't stop them before.

Maybe because the franchise is over saturated of characters and they don't want to include more princesses that don't sell great. Including Raya was a big mistake so maybe in the future they'll tink more about including new princesses in the franchise.

Perhaps. But frankly, I think Raya deserved to be in the franchise. For being an actual Princess (sort of). Frankly, if there`s one Princess who should`ve been discarded from the lineup, it should`ve been Merida. Due to her being a Pixar character and for purpose to be an anti-Princess in every sense (despite how it was mandatory that she actually became included in the lineup, due to how Disney were more synonymous with Princesses a decade ago and deliberately made Princesses to be included in the lineup).

DisneyFan09 wrote:Well, all in all I liked Wish. I liked the songs and score, the character designs and the voice acting. However, the movie was not without it`s flaws: The comedy was awful, the visual style was a mixed bag, the Disney references were tacky and for all the hoopla of Magnifico being a return to the traditional Disney villain, he was just a passable one. Besides, Asha was essentially a protagonist in a story that wasn`t about her own wants or needs. She simply was active in a plot that could`ve served well without her. So while Wish was a good movie, it was still overall a very flawed one.

DisneyFan09 wrote:Frankly, if there`s one Princess who should`ve been discarded from the lineup, it should`ve been Merida. Due to her being a Pixar character and for purpose to be an anti-Princess in every sense (despite how it was mandatory that she actually became included in the lineup, due to how Disney were more synonymous with Princesses a decade ago and deliberately made Princesses to be included in the lineup).

DisneyFan09, I completely agree with all of this!

This is the first time that I see merchandise of Kidra from Atlantis under the Disney Princess franchise

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81X ... L1500_.jpg

Farerb wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:01 am Why haven't they included Asha yet? I know she's not a princess but that didn't stop them before.

I think Asha would have joined the line if the movie had been more successful. As for why Raya was included, and not Asha, I think PatchofBlue is correct— Raya and the Last Dragon’s box office performance has to be considered with an asterisk due to the pandemic’s impact on its release.

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:59 amMaybe because the franchise is over saturated of characters and they don't want to include more princesses that don't sell great. Including Raya was a big mistake so maybe in the future they'll tink more about including new princesses in the franchise.

Does anyone else think we are more likely to see a culling of the Disney Princess line than to see more heroines added to it, anytime soon? To me, the lineup is so big at this point as to appear unwieldy.

I think, if such a cut were to happen, probably Raya, Pocahontas, and Merida are most at risk. For the record, Pocahontas is one of my favorite princesses.

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 9:26 am This is the first time that I see merchandise of Kidra from Atlantis under the Disney Princess franchise

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81X ... L1500_.jpg

That’s also the first merch I’ve seen! I researched Kida in the Disney Princess line a little while ago, and I did see a claim online that she was included in some merch. It must have been around the time the movie was released, as that’s the old franchise logo.