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Clindor wrote:When you are a creator, an artist, you can always make a character evolve with the franchise like they apparently did with each of the main characters in Frozen II. If they did not give the same treatment with Hans, it’s because they TOOK that decision.

Clindor wrote:

farerb wrote:If they had made him a much more complex character then maybe, but they really wanted that twist so they turned him into a sociopath. Don't think I'll be able to forgive someone who just left me to die and aiming to kill a member of my family just to be a king consort with no queen or heir so basically nothing.

They could have used one of the elements from the original fairy tale with the tiny pieces of the mirror turning people evil if they touch them and filling them with dark intentions. Hans could have been an object in a more important plan. The whole thing linked to a prophecy regarding this dark magic and also giving a more complex and detailed backstory around Hans... (or I don’t know: just anything else for Hans!)
When you are a creator, an artist, you can always make a character evolve with the franchise like they apparently did with each of the main characters in Frozen II. If they did not give the same treatment with Hans, it’s because they TOOK that decision.

(And chose to treat the fans the same way.)

Sotiris wrote:A snippet from "Some Things Never Change" has been leaked. The song's OK, I guess. It's kind of generic but pleasant enough.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4kaBB6F_vV/

Sotiris wrote:

D82 wrote:And Spanish and Korean covers of the end credits version of "Into the Unknown".

I can't say I like either of them. I thought it would sound better with a female vocalist but it doesn't. It's the arrangement that's the problem. It really doesn't suit the song. It goes against the melody and the way it's structured.

blackcauldron85 wrote:Spoilers!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle ... 00606.html

D82 wrote:New clip with Anna and Olaf.

D82 wrote:I'm especially curious about Kristoff's song now after several people praised it in the first reactions.

“Lost in the Woods” is arranged like a yacht rock power ballad (yes, seriously) with his body shown in multiples, dancing across the screen and in a split-screen close-up of his face backlit as he’s singing.

D82 wrote:For me the problem are the male vocalists. It seems they're having a hard time reaching the high notes or singing in that key. The female ones seem more comfortable with it. The Spanish performer himself admitted in an interview that recording the song had been a challenge for him because of that.

Sotiris wrote:

blackcauldron85 wrote:Spoilers!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle ... 00606.html

The link doesn't work anymore. What did it say?

...to find the origin of the voices that are calling to Elsa, which seem to be coming from the direction of the Enchanted Forest. The girls remember the place from a story their father told them—as a boy, he'd visited with the girls' grandfather. There, the two helped the townspeople from Arendelle build a dam for the Northuldra tribe, before a fight broke out between the two groups, leaving their father, the young prince, injured. The place has been cut off from outsiders behind mists ever since...and the girls' father never knew who rescued him from the battle before being seriously harmed or trapped behind the mists...their grandfather surprise-attacked the Northuldra tribe, leading to the elements' angry attack on Arandelle all these years later. And the mysterious good samaritan who rescued their father from the ensuing battle? It was none other than their mother, who at the time was no more than a girl, and was revered by the Northuldra tribe as having magic powers. So, that's where Elsa's special powers came from.

And, most poignantly of all, Elsa and Anna discover exactly what their parents were doing on the high seas when they were overtaken by the waves. It turns out the couple was searching for the origin of the magical powers the women shared—which was believed to be found upriver to the north. In the scene's most wrenching moment, Elsa "reads" the water-memory of her parents' soggy shipwrecked vessel. And the result is a life-sized frozen statue of her father shielding her mother from the waves as they smashed through the hull to engulf them both.

Gah! Elsa feels guilt, Anna gives her a sisterly pep talk and the emotional complexity of Frozen 2 can't help but melt our hearts...

Sotiris wrote:
Is Elsa describing Hans as an "unredeemable monster" a jab by the filmmakers at Hans fans who wanted him to be redeemed in the sequel? She could have just said monster but the unredeemable addition seems overkill which makes me wonder.

JeanGreyForever wrote: The blatant hypocrisy here astounds me. Jennifer Lee thinks Hans, a fictional character, is an irredeemable monster but John Lasseter is just misunderstood and a real ally to women just because he never did anything specifically to her. Give me a break.

Disney's Divinity wrote:They didn't want to though, apparently? He's a non-essential character after the conclusion of the first film's plot, as much as the Duke of Weselton.

There’s also a scene where Elsa is frozen when she falls into a hole that she can’t get out of, and her magic stops, causing Olaf to die. (Don’t worry, it’s not a permanent thing.) All this happens while Anna is separated from Elsa, prompting some feelings of abandonment and an anthemic power ballad about “doing the next right thing.” Bottom line: There’s a pretty harrowing ten minutes when our heroes are either dead or in peril.

unprincess wrote: Total waste. A plot involving Hans and the Duke joining forces to invade Arendelle using sorcery they've obtained would've made a fantastic almost Game of Thrones-ish story line.

Sotiris wrote:Olaf spoilers.

There’s also a scene where Elsa is frozen when she falls into a hole that she can’t get out of, and her magic stops, causing Olaf to die. (Don’t worry, it’s not a permanent thing.) All this happens while Anna is separated from Elsa, prompting some feelings of abandonment and an anthemic power ballad about “doing the next right thing.” Bottom line: There’s a pretty harrowing ten minutes when our heroes are either dead or in peril.

Source: https://www.purewow.com/news/is-frozen- ... n-frozen-1