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DancingCrab wrote:Am I the only one who thinks of Deb & Flo from Finding Nemo when DisneyJedi and TsWade2 are having a conversation?

DancingCrab wrote:Am I the only one who thinks of Deb & Flo from Finding Nemo when DisneyJedi and TsWade2 are having a conversation?

Watch it! You need to realize that I am upset that we lost hand drawn because of all these idiotic people.

Sotiris wrote:

DancingCrab wrote:Am I the only one who thinks of Deb & Flo from Finding Nemo when DisneyJedi and TsWade2 are having a conversation?

And as for you, it's not funny. Besides, you're the one that always give us bad news for hand drawn animation which is not nearly your fault.

I just hope the success of Mickey Mouse in Get A Horse will make Disney change their minds about dissing hand drawn once again.

Kyle wrote:

unprincess wrote:my concern about there being such a long wait for 2d's re-emergence is: by the time people want to see it again, who's going to be around to animate it? the current animators are in their late 40's, 50's & young animators are not being taught the technique anymore...

Just because we're not seeing features being made using it doesn't mean its not being taught and learned. Last I heard Disney's 2D animation program was still going strong. Its the vets that we're loosing more than anything. Not that this is a good thing, but wasn't a lot of the team that animated princess and the frog largely new blood? I don't think there's any real shortage of talent. I doubt there ever will be. Its the management that is holding these people back.

I hope youre right. I read in a few foums that in alot of animation schools, students arent required to learn the "basics" anymore b/c a lot of the studios dont really require it to get hired. And yeah I suppose there will always be artist who can animate in a general sense, but will we ever see the level of craft/artistry of a Marc Davis or Glen Keane again in the future?

If you people think I'm wrong about John Lasseter, then is he going to shy away from hand drawn forever?

I know I'm being drama king, but I'm just confused. Everything in this thread makes no sense. If John Lasseter likes hand drawn, then give me one good reason why he has every right to be afraid of his promises of continuation of hand drawn animation?

I don't think it's Lasseter (it doesn't compute for somebody with his background and whose favourite movie is Dumbo to shy away from the medium), but rather Bob Iger.

I'm currently reading a book called "Down and Dirty Pictures", which details the rise of independent film companies and there's a lot in there about how studio heads are basically the ones in control over every department of their companies. Even somebody as powerful, towering and fearless as Harvey Weinstein (the founder of Miramax) was forced to sell controversial movies like Kids and Dogma to other companies, because Michael Eisner did not want to release them.

You should read that book, TsWade, as it gives fantastic insight into how tough the film industry and how there is a lot of behind-the-scenes drama associated with getting any movie produced and eventually released. Harvey Weinstein and John Lasseter basically have the same level of power under the Disney CEO's thumb. They can produce any movie they want...as long as the big guy upstairs says it's okay.

estefan wrote:I don't think it's Lasseter (it doesn't compute for somebody with his background and whose favourite movie is Dumbo to shy away from the medium), but rather Bob Iger.

I'm currently reading a book called "Down and Dirty Pictures", which details the rise of independent film companies and there's a lot in there about how studio heads are basically the ones in control over every department of their companies. Even somebody as powerful, towering and fearless as Harvey Weinstein (the founder of Miramax) was forced to sell controversial movies like Kids and Dogma to other companies, because Michael Eisner did not want to release them.

You should read that book, TsWade, as it gives fantastic insight into how tough the film industry and how there is a lot of behind-the-scenes drama associated with getting any movie produced and eventually released. Harvey Weinstein and John Lasseter basically have the same level of power under the Disney CEO's thumb. They can produce any movie they want...as long as the big guy upstairs says it's okay.

Oh, then Bob Iger is the one making John Lasseter a chicken. Guess I misjudged John Lasseter.

TsWade2 wrote:

estefan wrote:I don't think it's Lasseter (it doesn't compute for somebody with his background and whose favourite movie is Dumbo to shy away from the medium), but rather Bob Iger.

I'm currently reading a book called "Down and Dirty Pictures", which details the rise of independent film companies and there's a lot in there about how studio heads are basically the ones in control over every department of their companies. Even somebody as powerful, towering and fearless as Harvey Weinstein (the founder of Miramax) was forced to sell controversial movies like Kids and Dogma to other companies, because Michael Eisner did not want to release them.

You should read that book, TsWade, as it gives fantastic insight into how tough the film industry and how there is a lot of behind-the-scenes drama associated with getting any movie produced and eventually released. Harvey Weinstein and John Lasseter basically have the same level of power under the Disney CEO's thumb. They can produce any movie they want...as long as the big guy upstairs says it's okay.

Oh, then Bob Iger is the one making John Lasseter a chicken. Guess I misjudged John Lasseter.

Am I seriously the only one who thinks that it is alright that Disney is not doing hand-drawn feautres in the near future? Again, I feel like the CG films that Disney is doing is not only good but they are getting better and better and better with each film they do with Frozen being a huge improvement in the art direction department.

If Disney finds brand new hand drawn artists who can do something different with the medium like how Keane, Henn and co have done in the 80's; then that's where 2-D animation will be interesting to the general public again.

We just need patience that's all. Everything is going to be alright, no need for such sadness.

Musical Master wrote:

TsWade2 wrote: Oh, then Bob Iger is the one making John Lasseter a chicken. Guess I misjudged John Lasseter.

Am I seriously the only one who thinks that it is alright that Disney is not doing hand-drawn feautres in the near future? Again, I feel like the CG films that Disney is doing is not only good but they are getting better and better and better with each film they do with Frozen being a huge improvement in the art direction department.

If Disney finds brand new hand drawn artists who can do something different with the medium like how Keane, Henn and co have done in the 80's; then that's where 2-D animation will be interesting to the general public again.

We just need patience that's all. Everything is going to be alright, no need for such sadness.

Okay, sorry. It's the article's fault that makes me go crazy.

Tis quite alright, fellow hand drawn animation fan.

Oh DisneyJedi and Wade, you two are so cute.

DancingCrab wrote:Am I the only one who thinks of Deb & Flo from Finding Nemo when DisneyJedi and TsWade2 are having a conversation?

DisneyJedi and TsWade:

Stop it! All of you!

TsWade2 wrote:Stop it! All of you!

No.

Now come gimme a hug.

That's it! I'm telling!

OK, guys. We had our fun with our innocent teasing but this is starting to really bother TsWade2 so we should respect his wishes and stop it now.

Sotiris wrote:OK, guys. We had our fun with our innocent teasing but this is starting to really bother TsWade2 so we should respect his wishes and stop it now.

Thank you. And I promise I'll do my best to remain calm and be patient. Of course, that would be hard.

I know this not important right now, but, any bad news about hand drawn to make us hand drawn fans miserable?

Sorry, I'm just being sarcastic.

I have a friend who works inside Disney. I got him to personally ask Bob Iger if there was ever any chance of a full hand drawn feature happening again, and he started cackling hysterically and thought he was making a joke. I'm 100% serious.

Hand drawn is considered a relic of the past with the advances in technology. I guess kind of like silent films used to be.

Sorry