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Do you have a screenshot or a video to show this scene? I'm interested in what error has been plaguing this film for years.

I wonder it, too.

While we're on the subject, you know that error when Ariel and Eric jump off giant Ursula's crown into the water, where you can like, see the edge of the background or something in the top right corner? Was that always there, or was that error only in the Diamond Edition?

That error has been there since the theatrical release. I think one edition (maybe the Platinum Edition) got rid of it, and then the Diamond Edition brought it back to be more faithful to the original film.

Yes, that error has been in the original theatrical release. They fixed it in the Platinum and Signature editions, but didn't in the Diamond Edition.

Oh, thanks very much for the info, guys!

Ok, well, since we have posted a Little Mermaid collector's set here that was fake and fan-made...why not post some hopes here that are real and fan-dreamed?!!! Lol I just mean why not post what I hope for the Cinderella: Signature Edition and hope Disney listens.

I posted this in the Cinderella Discussion thread (click here for that) originally, so some of you have already seen it, but here goes.

IMPORTANT QUESTION: Does posting these ideas for a cover, menus, and the bonus features diminish the chances of Disney doing them, or enhance them?

Cinderella: The Ultimate DVD, Blu-ray, 4K, and Digital

My wish cover would be the bottom half of this cover, with Cinderella transforming and the mice watching, filling the entire cover instead of just the bottom half, and the Fairy Godmother somewhere:


Menus that are 3D CGI versions of the animated film’s backgrounds, with hand-drawn character animation and a hybrid of CGI and hand-drawn animation of special effects animation.

The main feature restored to its original state with the original colors and detail and animation intact.

A making of that combines the Platinum and Diamond Edition making of's with the 1995 Masterpiece Deluxe VHS making of and info we haven't heard yet like about the version of Cinderella with two balls and Cinderella's stepfamily pouncing on her when she returns the second night and is locked up and sings a song about clocks, some information on the version written with the Prince and Cinderella making fun of people around them at the ball while they dance that I read about in the book “A Wish Your Heart Makes”, and a lot about the version Maurice Rapf wrote where Cinderella becomes a more fighting, rebellious heroine who refuses to do the chores all by herself after the ball and is locked up because of it, and any other big or notable information that applies to the making of the film.

An audio commentary or “Inside Walt’s Story Meetings” for the feature film.

The exclusive interviews with the original animators the Laserdisc had, unless those are already included in the making of.

"The Cinderella That Almost Was"

Deleted scenes:
"The Cinderella Work Song"
"Dancing on a Cloud"

The Diamond Edition's deleted opening, and any more deleted scenes they can find.

The deleted songs:
"Sing a Little, Dream a Little"
"I'm in the Middle of a Muddle"
"The Mouse Song"
"The Dress My Mother Wore"
"Dancing on a Cloud"
"I Lost My Heart at the Ball"
"The Face That I See in the Night."

The Ilene Woods radio program audios:
The Village Store (March 25, 1948)
"Gulf Oil Presents" (1950)
"Scouting the Stars" (February 23, 1950)

The 1950 episode of Perry Como where Ilene Woods appears.

"The Real Fairy Godmother"

"From Walt's Table: A Tribute to the Nine Old Men"

"The Art of Mary Blair"

The 1922 Laugh-O-grams short Cinderella

"The Mickey Mouse Club" (January 24, 1956) excerpt with Helene Stanley playing Cinderella for the Mouseketeers.

The six theatrical trailers from 1950, 1965, 1973, 1981, and 1987.

The Platinum Edition’s galleries:
Visual Development
Mary Blair Art
Character Design
Costume Design
Storyboard Art
Layouts and Backgrounds
Live Action Reference
Production Photos
Publicity

A lot more art they can find that looks close to the way the final film looked, including the blue, rococo-heavy palace insides. And Mary Blair art for the film I've seen that didn't make it in past releases of this film, and art in the same vein as the "blueprint" or layout or concept art I found that didn't make it into past releases of this film.

Storyboards and storyboard to film comparisons of keys scenes:
Opening
King and Duke planning ball
"Sing Sweet Nightingale"
Cinderella, her stepfamily, and the invitation
The mice and birds making the dress
Cinderella's dress getting destroyed by her stepfamily
The Fairy Godmother's appearance and transformations
The ball and "So This is Love"
Midnight, the slipper dropping and the untransformation
Lady Tremaine locking Cinderella in her room
The stepsisters trying on the slipper
The mice and Bruno rescuing Cinderella
Cinderella trying on the slipper
The wedding and ending

“Original Storyboards from 1940” the Laserdisc had, or so I read. Unless those were already included in the making of.

Rough and/or clean-up animation of key scenes:
Cinderella waking up and "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes"
"Sing Sweet Nightingale"
The mice and birds making the dress
The dress getting destroyed by Cinderella's stepfamily
The Fairy Godmother's appearance and transformations
"So This is Love"
Midnight, the slipper dropping, and the untransformation
Lady Tremaine locking Cinderella up
Cinderella trying on the slipper
The wedding

The Cinderella comic I read that the Laserdisc had, but only in digital form.

Pretty ultimate if I do say so myself!

Also from the same thread I originally posted this in, is our lovable UD member Escapay revealing much about what I asked, and his own ideas. Click here for that page.

Duster, your idea for the Ultimate Cinderella set sounds great. For the cover art, I thought of something like having Cinderella in her maid outfit holding a bubble (as in the "Sing, Sweet Nightingale" scene), and have the castle and the pumpkin coach in the distance, with her dressed in her ballgown as the reflection (there could be a new illustration of her, not some previously used clipart). We could have the Fairy Godmother above the title (as in the Masterpiece VHS) sprinkling fairy dust all over the scene and the mice all around her. Maybe with Lady Tremaine and the stepsister on the stairs, watching her.

What do you think?

It seems like The Jungle Book is going to be released as a DMC like 101 Dalmatians did. Could this mean that perhaps they are not part of the Signature Collection?

I wonder if films like Lilo & Stitch, Tangled, Frozen or Zootopia could possibly be inducted into the line in their place? I could definitely picture a Signature release of Frozen next year to coincide with Frozen 2's release on DVD/Blu-ray...

From what I remember, 101 Dalmatians and The Jungle Book were the two lowest selling Diamond Editions. Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp were barely much better off, which is probably why both have been relegated to streaming.

Lilo and Stitch is not happening, but as for the others it's a possibility, but I doubt it.

The Jungle Book getting a Disney movie club exclusive doesn't really prove it's not going to be in the signature collection, even if it does do "less than X movie", which doesn't mean it's not successful.

Disney is incredibly unpredictable these days I wouldn't bother thinking too much into this. trust me I have at one point and it's not fun

Oh Sicoe Vlad, I like all of that together for a cover! I would just not have Cinderella reflected in her ballgown. I'm just not into that idea. I mostly want my idea for the cover still, but your idea is actually a really awesome cover! It tells the story! I would love if we got either your cover or my cover ideas come true!

My other guess is they just wanna release all the vault films on Blu-ray before their streaming service and they don't want to release too many Signature Collection titles at ones. They might rerelease 101 Dalmatians and The Jungle Book as part of the Signature Collection, but it will only happen after they released Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin and Fantasia, probably in 2021.

pikachufan1336 wrote:Lilo and Stitch is not happening, but as for the others it's a possibility, but I doubt it.

I believe L&S would have as much chance as Tangled, really. I included all the films in the new century that were extremely successful (Frozen, Zootopia) or at least seem to be well-known to most people (L&S, Tangled). Tangled owes a lot to the Disney Princess line.

I know none of it really matters. Signature Collection or not, Disney doesn't show much love for any of their films these days when it comes to extra content. And soon enough they'll minimize physical releases altogether; I wouldn't be surprised if you could only buy them via the DMC 15 years from now. They already plan to do away with the vault concept thanks to Disney+.

farerb wrote:My other guess is they just wanna release all the vault films on Blu-ray before their streaming service and they don't want to release too many Signature Collection titles at ones. They might rerelease 101 Dalmatians and The Jungle Book as part of the Signature Collection, but it will only happen after they released Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin and Fantasia, probably in 2021.

My theory is that they are going to stop major home video releases like the Signature Collection once the streaming service is up and running. Maybe they'll roll out what they can now but I wouldn't be surprised if Disney keeps every title in print that is available now. I wish their streaming service would offer some sort of "Digital Vault", where we could have access to bonus features from all home video formats of each film's release.

Disney's Divinity wrote:

pikachufan1336 wrote:Lilo and Stitch is not happening, but as for the others it's a possibility, but I doubt it.

I believe L&S would have as much chance as Tangled, really. I included all the films in the new century that were extremely successful (Frozen, Zootopia) or at least seem to be well-known to most people (L&S, Tangled). Tangled owes a lot to the Disney Princess line.

Lilo and Stitch was successful but not THAT successful.
It makes a lot of money on merchandising sure but that doesn't mean the movie itself does. Though I agree if Disney took this lineup/ Vault seriously the new revival movies would make it in.
Also iconography doesn't really count either, Mulan and Pocahontas are fairly iconic by Disney's standards but they never got the vault treatment because they never did that well. These are made up of movies successful on home video, there is such a thing as being successful in another branch, again like with Lilo and Stitch.

Lilo and Stitch got a cheap Blu-ray release with one of its sequels tacked on, clearly Disney's home video department doesn't see this film as "worthy" enough to be included in the "prestigious" Signature Collection. I don't see revival films enter either, I think Disney wants to be done with that line as soon as they can and I think there won't be any new line afterwards. I believe they might take films like 101 Dalmatians and The Jungle Book out because they aren't huge sellers, but I don't see them putting new films in. Frozen will probably get an "Ultimate Collectors Edition" with 4K, Tangled might get a 10th anniversary edition next year. Big Hero 6, Zootopia and Moana probably in the near future.

Stitch is a hugely popular character (especially in the foreign market) and while Lilo & Stitch was a successful film, it was more of a moderate success that resonated especially since everything before and after was such a flop. There's a reason that Tangled was called Disney's biggest hit since Tarzan. As farerb pointed out, Disney didn't even bother with a proper Blu-Ray release for Lilo & Stitch so they clearly don't find it a worthy inclusion. This is similar to Winnie the Pooh, a hugely profitable and iconic character, but we'll never see his original film treated as part of the Signature Collection. Characters like Pooh and Stitch work better as franchise characters.

Pocahontas is pretty iconic by Disney's standards (and non-Disney standards too), both with the lead character and the songs, and from what I remember, it was one of the highest-selling Disney films outside of the Signature/Diamond collection. Mulan isn't anywhere near that level of popularity, with the exception of the younger generation. They adore her, but she's not well known outside of that demographic.

Most Disney films are packaged with their trash DTV sequels these days because Disney likely has a hard time selling those things any other way. Not sure why people want to argue that Tangled is somehow minimally more successful than L&S anyway, when the likelihood is neither were successful enough to be included in the line anyway or that there even will be any change to the lineup. This was all hypothetical.

Except the films in the Signature Collection are not packaged with their direct-to-video sequels. Those are released separately because Disney clearly feels that certain films/characters are successful enough to sell on their own. Stitch is not one of those, according to Disney's Home Video department anyway, otherwise those sequels would be packaged together rather than as part of the original film.